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Post by gamp on Feb 3, 2008 13:35:58 GMT -5
idhoya is right about King Rice. He was from Binghamton, not "The City."
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harlemhoya
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Post by harlemhoya on Feb 3, 2008 13:47:31 GMT -5
I'll give King this, he played hard. He just never had the talent. There was another big guy around that time that Dean wanted to get rid of the second he got to UNC. I forgot his name, but I think he transeffered to L'ville. Honestly, it is tough for most of the NY city kids to live up to the hype. It is not their fault, it is just unreal expectations. I can't remember the last elite player to come out of NY that was the real deal. Stephon Marbury
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 4, 2008 2:01:59 GMT -5
Well, Sebastian WOULD have been elite in college, had he gone to college for even a year. And, by the way, he should have.
I think Lance ends this "drought" year after next though. But we'll see.
For the record I was a HUGE Omar Cook fan. I think he had a cup of coffee in the league but mostly he has been playing in the DLeague and comparable levels which is a shame. Classic case of leaving too early.
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 4, 2008 8:07:05 GMT -5
Has this thread lost its way?
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Post by idhoya on Feb 4, 2008 10:11:30 GMT -5
yep MCI it has, but interesting nonetheless.
balla, You mean you weren't a Sean Dockery fan like the rest of america when he came out of Chi? Remember, he, Curry and Will Bynum were all profiled on Fox. Bynum was a beast, just too small.
I think NY starts a new next year with Kemba @ Uconn and Theodore @ SHU. Fouch is good too. Truck Bryant, etc.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Feb 4, 2008 11:25:05 GMT -5
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Post by balla on Feb 4, 2008 14:52:52 GMT -5
Has this thread lost its way? good point. Lets delete the last couple of pages of post that were not commit/prospect related.
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Post by balla on Feb 4, 2008 14:55:23 GMT -5
I think St. Joes is top 25 nationally now.
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Post by idhoya on Feb 4, 2008 19:02:16 GMT -5
Henry working on that McDonals AA.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 4, 2008 19:18:45 GMT -5
I just don't see it happening, id. I think the McD's AAs are all but locked already. The voting is going on now, but most of these gurus really aren't watching HS basketball in other states -- what they saw over the summer holds and what they saw put Henry in the 50-75 range, right or wrong.
Love to see it, and he may deserve it, but his best shot is that Wooten has sway and he's an area guy. Just too many locks at this point.
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balla
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Post by balla on Feb 4, 2008 19:24:05 GMT -5
Perhaps Ambassador Alonzo will get one pick(LOL). Actually, Monroe meeting Alonzo will be great for Monroe.
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Post by idhoya on Feb 4, 2008 19:24:23 GMT -5
you're prob right, but kid has worked his tale off to get better. Clark too. Having great seasons.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 4, 2008 20:41:26 GMT -5
you're prob right, but kid has worked his tale off to get better. Clark too. Having great seasons. And that's really what's most important. Five years from now, no one will remember if these kids were Mickey D AA's or not. Well, no one except for the derelicts on this board (present company included).
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Post by Highsmith on Feb 4, 2008 21:08:31 GMT -5
idhoya is right about King Rice. He was from Binghamton, not "The City." As someone who grew up near Binghamton, I can't believe I missed out on a King Rice discussion!! Hands down, he is the most hyped and over-hyped player ever to come from that area that I know of. The local newspaper really poured it on with him. A few other "local" kids from that area who went on to do pretty much nothing in their college careers include a couple of SU recruits- Bob Lazor (who I believe went on to Arizona St and wasn't too bad) and Chuck Gellat (sp?). I saw him play when he was in 8th grade and was very impressed with what he could do.......however, he had what I will call "other issues" that caused him problems. I guess when King Rice is your claim to fame, you will never be confused with being a basketball "hotbed". Now I live near Utica, so I get to call Josh Wright "one of my own"!!! Sorry to derail the thread, but it isn't often that anyone brings up King Rice!!
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2008 0:47:41 GMT -5
Here's another Hollis update:
Friday night was the first time I'd watched Hollis....had to get another Hollis fix tonight in their last home game of the season.
To begin, I've never seen a nicer kid. He is so damn nice its almost hard to believe. Example - early in the first quarter he had a semi-breakaway dunk. He didn't really have his feet under him, when up for a contested dunk, backrimmed it and the ball went out of bounds. I thought he was fouled and the defender ended up on the floor. Hollis doesn't say a word to the ref, doesn't make a face, doesn't seem embarrassed... instead, he helps the defender up and runs back on defense. I don't think I've ever seen a superstar react like that. The kid is just so nice and so unselfish... its unbelieveable.
The question remains...is he too unselfish? Through the first three quarters... Hollis only had 3 points on 1 for 3 shooting. He was happy to make the extra pass and get his teammates involved. He's a great passer!! I counted 8 assists, 7 rebs, and 2 blks....perfect for the Princeton offense. The 4th qtr came around and Hollis took over. He took it to the hole hard twice and hit two shots using his left. He hit a three, and hit a couple of nice mid-range jumpers. He finished with 15. He reminds me very much of David Wingate. You're right Balla...the one area he needs to focus on is his handle...its just a little loose.
I happen to be in the fashion business and had a very cool custom "Hoyas" baseball cap made for him. My little 8 year old nephew who I brought to the game with me ran up to him after the game and gave it to him. Hollis had the biggest smile on his face, shook all our hands and said he's excited to be a Hoya. He proudly put the cap on and ran off the court.
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Post by RDF on Feb 5, 2008 1:16:28 GMT -5
Good thing you are NOT an alum of GU--right BlueandGray? Again--you are NOT an alum of GU. I hope to goodness you understand what I'm referring to.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2008 1:42:27 GMT -5
No worries... I am not an alum....just a huge fan. I have no affiliation with the university.
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Post by balla on Feb 5, 2008 1:58:07 GMT -5
Here's another Hollis update: Friday night was the first time I'd watched Hollis....had to get another Hollis fix tonight in their last home game of the season. To begin, I've never seen a nicer kid. He is so damn nice its almost hard to believe. Example - early in the first quarter he had a semi-breakaway dunk. He didn't really have his feet under him, when up for a contested dunk, backrimmed it and the ball went out of bounds. I thought he was fouled and the defender ended up on the floor. Hollis doesn't say a word to the ref, doesn't make a face, doesn't seem embarrassed... instead, he helps the defender up and runs back on defense. I don't think I've ever seen a superstar react like that. The kid is just so nice and so unselfish... its unbelieveable. The question remains...is he too unselfish? Through the first three quarters... Hollis only had 3 points on 1 for 3 shooting. He was happy to make the extra pass and get his teammates involved. He's a great passer!! I counted 8 assists, 7 rebs, and 2 blks....perfect for the Princeton offense. The 4th qtr came around and Hollis took over. He took it to the hole hard twice and hit two shots using his left. He hit a three, and hit a couple of nice mid-range jumpers. He finished with 15. He reminds me very much of David Wingate. You're right Balla...the one area he needs to focus on is his handle...its just a little loose. I happen to be in the fashion business and had a very cool custom "Hoyas" baseball cap made for him. My little 8 year old nephew who I brought to the game with me ran up to him after the game and gave it to him. Hollis had the biggest smile on his face, shook all our hands and said he's excited to be a Hoya. He proudly put the cap on and ran off the court. Thats classic ;D. Thanks for another update. Are the Mission League playoffs this weekend? I have no doubt Hollis will work religiously to improve his handles. Kobi's handles were average(loose) at this stage also, then he started working on his handles with Shamgod. Kobi's handles got tight and he could rip it with the best of them. Handles(being able to get were ever you want in an explosive manner), is what separates most wings on the college level. And once he gets stronger, he will be dunking the defender in the basket with the ball
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Post by idhoya on Feb 5, 2008 11:02:39 GMT -5
God Shamgod?
hoyarooter, I will remember he's a Mickey D's AA cause I will have watched him on you tube 427 times! My addiction is outta control really. I feel like scotty has beamed me up!
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Post by RDF on Feb 5, 2008 12:16:14 GMT -5
God Shamgod? hoyarooter, I will remember he's a Mickey D's AA cause I will have watched him on you tube 427 times! My addiction is outta control really. I feel like scotty has beamed me up! Ah, the player formerly known as Shamgod Wells. Nice reference ID/Balla.
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