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Post by mrsixer123 on Mar 1, 2007 13:58:17 GMT -5
lic you have over 4,000 posts. amazing. That has to put you in the top 5 here. threads like these are why he has 4,000 post
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Post by mrsixer123 on Mar 1, 2007 11:35:06 GMT -5
who cares about that thug
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 28, 2007 13:25:19 GMT -5
Well, regardless of whether we were in the West bracket, we would never have to play our opening round games on the West coast. That system has been changed. That bracket makes sense, though. UCLA as the overall #1, Memphis as the lowest #2 and us as the highest #3. so if we end up in this bracket where would we play?
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 28, 2007 12:38:18 GMT -5
hell no!!!! im not trying to fly cross country right from tip of the tourny.
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 27, 2007 20:28:21 GMT -5
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 28, 2007 13:24:02 GMT -5
I agree with you. We had 3 games in 6 days and two of them were away games. Syracuse was home and didn't have to travel. As I posted in another thread, I truly believe that people underestimate the stress of travel between games. the Hoyas looked like a tired team in the last 10 minutes. it happens to nba teams all the time when they are on the tail end or final game of a road trip if it affects pros, why wouildnt affect colege players?
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 28, 2007 13:22:50 GMT -5
fatigue had plenty to do with it. there wont face the hectic travel schedule in march, and they wont play in a dome that is filled by 99% of their opponents fans. I agree with you. We had 3 games in 6 days and two of them were away games. Syracuse was home and didn't have to travel. As I posted in another thread, I truly believe that people underestimate the stress of travel between games. the Hoyas looked like a tired team in the last 10 minutes. it happens to nba teams all the time when they are on the tail end or end of a road trip if it affects pros, why wouildnt affect colege players?
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 28, 2007 12:31:18 GMT -5
No offense, OldHoya, but that fatigue excuse is a total cop out. SU played the same Saturday-Monday turnaround. Our boys simply didn't want it as much. And if fatigue is that big a deal now, how can we expect the team to succeed in March?!? Total... cop... out... fatigue had plenty to do with it. there wont face the hectic travel schedule in march, and they wont play in a dome that is filled by 99% of their opponents fans.
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:48:08 GMT -5
it is not only silly, to criticize a team that has accomplished so much, it is asinine. i guess we are now expected to win every game? afterall, the teams ranked above us a undefeated Criticism is part of the job--the team sucked tonight and it's up to III/Staff to correct it. I didn't say III can't coach. I didn't say he should be fired--just said he needs to look at a few things that are creeping up and mainly ball handling, sloppy passing, and uncaused turnovers--simply Hoyas throwing ball away. Possessions are even more important as the stakes go higher and you can't have some of the careless turnovers we've seen. If you look at the list above--you tell me what area has been strong and where I'm wrong for posting it? If you can do that and not just respond with anger/cursing, then we'll talk basketball which obviously you don't care to watch because these areas are creeping up and need to be addressed to help team get better. You can ALWAYS GET BETTER--and III will do so too. I'm confident--but just pointing out what needs to be done instead of making statements/threats to other teams who have just completed a total destruction of Hoyas. rdf, u went through that esh mess just like me. i am just shocked that u would be so critical of the team and coach after they have accomplished so much in such a short period of time. we cant give them 1 pass after playing 3 games in a short period of time? "If you can do that and not just respond with anger/cursing, then we'll talk basketball" when have i ever cursed on the board? i like to think my vocabulary is adequate enough not to feel the need to resort to such immaturity. if i didnt curse on here during the esh era, i never will!!! "just said he needs to look at a few things that are creeping up and mainly ball handling, sloppy passing, and uncaused turnovers--simply Hoyas throwing ball away." have i not said this would be an issue from day 1? everytime i bring it up as a cause for concern, i am accused of bashing the team or our guards. the fact is this, OUR GUARDS ARE BEING FORCED TO PLAY OUT OF POSITION! yea, yea, i know there is no such thing as a point guard or a shooting guard, but funny how there is a common theme in games where we struggle, win or lose. the issues u raise in regards to ballhandling are not going to go away until next season, and they will still surface every now and then b/c our best ballhandler will be a freshman. there is nothing coach can do about a shooting guard being forced to be the primary ball handler. well, maybe there is, i was told the other day on here that it is a "standard" practice to have your forward bring the ball up when the guards are having issues if he can dribble
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:33:20 GMT -5
You win as a TEAM, you lose as a TEAM and III is LEADER of the TEAM. It's not silly to criticize 1. Ineffective attacking of zone defense--it's not as if you expect Cuse to play anything else? 2. Sitting Hibbert for what reason? He ended up with 3 fouls and how many minutes? When game was getting called touchy/ticky tack--he inserted him--but then Jeff went AWOL for first time in over a month. 3. Clock awareness--Hoyas hoisted up 3/4 heaves with shotclock down and half of them (at least) were on out of bounds play where EVERYONE should know how much time you have to get a shot. 4. Passing/Ball Handling--sloppy and inexcusable for any game but especially this time of year, playing for an outright league title. 5. Inbounds plays--Hoyas have to come up with something better then heaving it towards your opponent's basket. That is a no-no and it's really the Hoyas best inbounds play. We need to see more screening/cutting and too many times we saw passes to areas on floor where Cuse wanted ball to go--corner to trap our guy or back to midcourt where they could set up their defense--there is no rule saying you can't design a play to set up a shot on dead ball. To say that can't be addressed is silly. To say it's not the job of III/Staff to improve these areas is even more silly. Nobody is saying he can't coach--but he was out of sorts as much as the kids were tonight--think they might have wanted it a bit too much and pressed which is out of character for III and Hoya players--usually play within their limitations and know each others' game, but tonight we saw guys trying to win game with 1 shot attempt and that gets you into trouble. it is not only silly to criticize a team that has accomplished so much, it is asinine. i guess we are now expected to win every game? afterall, the teams ranked above us are undefeated what other team has gone from dropping out of the polls to fighting their way back to the top 10?
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 21:52:51 GMT -5
if u want to know why the word fan, is short for fanatic look no further than the majority of post tonight.
a team that is 22-6 with no senior leadership (i wont point out the other flaw) is being criticized along with its coach as if it were the home team with key seniors playing with a DOME packed with its fans
not too long ago, we were happy if we just kept the score close before halftime b/c the program was in such disarray.
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 23:07:27 GMT -5
Basketball players are some of the finest conditioned athletes in the world and 18-22 kids are "fatigued" by playing basketball? What do they do in offseason? What do they do in Tournament play? You NEVER make excuses for losing. Excuses are for losers. Despite an awful night shooting--Hoyas were down 1 point with under 10 to go in game--Syracuse was playing on 1 day rest and so were we--you find a way to gut it out. It's also why depth is so important--deeper your team is with players/talent, better chances to prevent days like this--odds of having an entire team cold for one game usually happen once/twice a year--but at this time of year--with a deep, talented team, you compete/make shots when more guys are capable--and especially when they are capable of creating offense. If you are not shooting--get stops--and Hoyas didn't do that. Credit goes to Cuse and they took it to us tonight. Nothing you can do--but officiating and "tired legs" are not the reason--it was just one of those nights and our best player played timid and bad ball for first time in over a month--and it hurt team's chances of winning tonight. That can't happen again. i just can not believe what i am reading from u tonight
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 23:53:45 GMT -5
Syracuse won the NCAA Tourney 4 years ago. There is no excuse for a team with such recent success to storm the court, no matter how poor the current season is. Same applies to the Twerps of UMCP. one may read your post as a knock on us more than the two schools u listed in the grand scheme of things.......................
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 23:25:35 GMT -5
i guess the framed post article i have in the basement with roy being hosted by a sea of students on the court last year after a game was absurb too. Duke was #1 in the polls and on a something crazy win streak with a W at Gtown expected. A little different than beating your rival at #10. More importantly, what's absurb? you are right, those 9 spots justify us doing it instead of cuse who was on the brink of elimination on senior night. if u read the original post in this thread, u should comprehend why the word "absurb" was used in my post
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:30:26 GMT -5
Not gonna criticize the court rush. We rushed after we beat a ranked cuse team by double digits in '02. The security for the players... now that can be criticized. Tonight was a "hit the reset button on the playstation" kind of game. Must have been a computer glitch. Theres no way that a team this talented shoots THAT poorly. An aberration. Nuff said. I only wish Tyler had gotten his money's worth on his technical with Devendorf. i guess the framed post article i have in the basement with roy being hosted by a sea of students on the court last year after a game was absurb too.
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:20:44 GMT -5
how can a team that has DESTROYED zone D's more than a few times this season all of a sudden be confused? in my opinion, they werent confused, they were overwhelmed by a situation they have never faced as underclassmen who do not have a single senior to lean on or follow his lead/demeanor in a game of this magnitude in a very hostile environment Why the obsession with seniors? I'm pretty confident in our three three-year starters' leadership abilities. leadership has nothing to do with having the experience of being in a previous situation u find yourself in once again
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:17:32 GMT -5
amen. the only thing i would add is he coached his team, just last season, to the sweet 16 for the first time in how many years? now he is inferior to a coach that lost to vermont (i believe it was vermont, dont quote me on that) in the same tournament. It was Texas A&M but what is 2000 miles between friends. when did they lose to vermont? i was watching a game played by teams in vermont's conference and they showed the ending of that game over and over during each commercial break
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:12:15 GMT -5
I think JTIII is great. But the last ten minutes of tonight's game we just looked confused. When that happens you look to the COACH to get them in-line. I'm not throwing rocks at him, just saying it seems like he has potential to inspire in those moments and tonight he was off. bubbarubba, Escherick and gay comment in your post? come on... learn how to roll with the adults. Clean it up. Typical you're a gator fan. how can a team that has DESTROYED zone D's more than a few times this season all of a sudden be confused? in my opinion, they werent confused, they were overwhelmed by a situation they have never faced as underclassmen who do not have a single senior to lean on or follow his lead/demeanor in a game of this magnitude in a very hostile environment
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 22:05:38 GMT -5
JTIII according to these boards this morning: genius JTIII now: fool give me a break....he's deserves nothing but credit for what this team has accomplished and one bad shooting night does nothing to change that Good call, Miami. Don't let the knee-jerk reactionaries set the tone here. This game is done. There are lessons to be learned. The guys and coaches understand that. We're back on Saturday. Hungry. i guarantee u big john will say a loss like this may be a blessing in disguise on his show tomorrow. a team with no seniors who goes from unranked to top 10 in a matter of weeks needs a rude awakening every now and then.
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Post by mrsixer123 on Feb 26, 2007 21:56:14 GMT -5
JTIII according to these boards this morning: genius JTIII now: fool give me a break....he's deserves nothing but credit for what this team has accomplished and one bad shooting night does nothing to change that amen. the only thing i would add is he coached his team, just last season, to the sweet 16 for the first time in how many years? now he is inferior to a coach that lost to vermont (i believe it was vermont, dont quote me on that) in the same tournament.
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