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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 21:29:32 GMT -5
RPI moved only slightly from 90 to 88 with the win. Expecting only a slight bump in NET tomorrow as well. Tonight was truly a hold serve type game.
Elsewhere:
6th to last team in: UCF def. USF (hurts us doubly with our NCSOS) 1st team out: Clemson def. Pitt (similar to our Depaul win) 3rd team out: Davidson loses to Lasalle (huge result for us, Q3 loss likely pops their at-large bubble for good)
Florida and Texas are also double digit seeds in action that could fall a bit with losses.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 21:21:26 GMT -5
Indiana has 0 chance they are 12-13 4- 12 in big ten after beating Wisconsin. They are out of it. They are 14-14 (5-12 B10), and it was explained above why they have much more than 0 chance and are still being considered, albeit on the wrong side of the cut line, in a lot of brackets.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 21:19:12 GMT -5
A much better effort tonight coupled with some really awful sloppiness from Depaul really ignited us; that's the most transition baskets I can remember us getting in quite awhile. We saw a lot greater activity from Josh and Jessie. Without knowing the exact reason just yet, I thought Mosely was a good selection to start in place of Pickett; he was active on both ends and provided a calming presence (though I'm not sure what it takes for him to draw a charge... jeez).
Tonight was the first time Ewing used Govan and Mourning in tandem in quite some time. Probably necessitated by not having/using Pickett, but it did provide some extra beef up front which allowed us to play Depaul even on the boards. We all knew the stats coming in (Depaul 0-7 when outrebounded this year) that rebounding would be key. Trey still forcing way too much on the offensive end and was lucky enough to have a couple of defensive lapses erased by Josh and some bad play from Depaul, but I will give him credit for battling and being active throughout the night.
Thought we were much smarter tonight with our situational management; played the end of the half perfectly with running clock and getting the last shot. Also credit to our guards for being mostly smart with running clock late with the double digit lead; it could have gotten real ugly at the end had they been rushing, but because we made the clock our friend, Depaul simply ran out of time. That's a step in the right direction.
The true bubble game comes on Saturday, as it likely serves as a play-in to the play-in game. Hopefully the guys can maintain their intensity and put forth a similar level of effort/concentration as they try to fight their way back to the cut line.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 19:01:23 GMT -5
Mosley starting for Pickett. Unsure why. Perhaps rewarding Jagan for a good game vs. Creighton and letting Pickett know a total no show won't keep you in the starting lineup.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 11:57:52 GMT -5
I'm just astounded to learn that were it not for DChoya72, Patrick Ewing would have never had a hook shot in his arsenal.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 10:27:41 GMT -5
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 10:26:25 GMT -5
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 9:48:11 GMT -5
Indiana got the big home win it needed vs. Wisconsin and Utah St. held serve, but Memphis at least was able to deny Temple a Q1 win. Let's see if we can stay in the race tonight. I haven’t followed, but is Indiana really on the bubble? I suppose so but haven’t they won like 2 games in 2019? They're ahead of us on the matrix as of yesterday. www.bracketmatrix.com/It's true that they've been basically nothing but garbage in conference play, but they do have 5 Q1 wins (including Marquette, Louisville, Wisconsin and at Michigan St... all projected tourney teams) and no Q3/Q4 losses. Their NET is considerably better than ours but our wildly mediocre RPI tops even theirs. Just a weird profile overall.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 9:20:55 GMT -5
Guess they didn’t get the memo what a disappointment he was🤨🍺 Not trying to take away from his stellar game vs. Nova, but putting up 9 and 3 with no real effort on defense against Creighton was a big disappointment.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2019 9:14:26 GMT -5
Indiana got the big home win it needed vs. Wisconsin and Utah St. held serve, but Memphis at least was able to deny Temple a Q1 win.
Let's see if we can stay in the race tonight.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 22:26:40 GMT -5
Well, Depaul's back in the cellar. Up to the Hoyas to take care of business and keep them there.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 21:26:57 GMT -5
Providence loses a seven point lead with 1:34 to play and gives up consecutive wide open threes for Butler to force OT. Did anyone listen to Ed Cooley on that bench? Isaiah Jackson did.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 21:12:42 GMT -5
Fairly big night on the bubble tonight with 3 of the last 4 teams in on the Bracket Matrix all in action. As much as we need to take care of business this week with our 2 games, the teams we're competing with have to dodge their own land mines as well. Your rooting guide: 10 seed: Ohio St. vs. Iowa (a quality win here likely puts them a single step from safety) 3rd to last team in: Temple at Memphis (really need to have Memphis prevent Temple from securing another Q1 win on the road) 2nd to last team in: Alabama at South Carolina (Bama a slight dog in this one on the road) Last team in: Utah St. vs. San Diego St. (a bad loss here would surely knock them out of the bracket for the time being) 2nd team out: Butler vs. Providence (a Providence win, while damaging Butler, would also give us a shot at another Q1 win @prov) 7th team out: Toledo at Ball St. (another bad loss and their at-large chances are likely shot for good) 10th team out: Indiana vs. Wisconsin (a big opportunity for a name win for Indiana who is fading big time) 14th team out: Dayton at Massachusetts (same as Toledo) 16th team out: Liberty vs. Kennesaw St. (Liberty likely has 0 at large shot, but need the ASun to be a 1 bid league and Lipscomb needs to be that team) We are 11th team out on the Matrix this morning and tomorrow night is a hold-serve game for us, so we will need help elsewhere for any significant movement up. Ohio St., Bama, Toledo, Dayton, Liberty all win. Providence and Butler heading to OT after Butler hits back to back 3s to erase a 5 point lead in the final minute.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 21:06:10 GMT -5
Katz definitely would like to see us in....remember that interview with Mac after St John win at the garden? Someone on this board has mentioned that Patrick and the Teams PR guy are the most valuable -somehow stirring up a lot of hype for what is presently a mediocre team. Fine by me, whatever helps, but a winning streak is what we need now. ^this^ People are not realizing the "McClung Effect". If we get close I think interest in Mac could push us over the top....the NCAA is still a business and casual bball fans will want to see if the Mac hype is real....but we have to do our part and get to 9-9 and 1 BET win...IMO If this was true, the NCAA would be trying to figure out a way to get Murray State in before us.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 19:51:33 GMT -5
Katz definitely would like to see us in....remember that interview with Mac after St John win at the garden? Someone on this board has mentioned that Patrick and the Teams PR guy are the most valuable -somehow stirring up a lot of hype for what is presently a mediocre team. Fine by me, whatever helps, but a winning streak is what we need now. This "guy"? She used to be with the Knicks. / Jeff Messman is the assistant SID for men's basketball. --AdminWait, I'm confused. Which of these people should I be blaming for #GoLegend?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 14:53:45 GMT -5
Oh completely agree. Too many starters both in the frontcourt and backcourt either losing track of who they needed to help/recover on, not fighting around screens, not knowing where the ball was, etc. They did the same thing in the first Creighton game and it was on the staff to figure out a way to make adjustments, which they did not. To compound the issue, they even went to their largely ineffective zone to try to show a different look, which is kind of insane to do when you're facing a team that wants to do nothing but shoot 3's. The second team is not nearly as talented, but you know by and large they are going to give a solid effort when they're on the floor. Aside from Trey Curry, I thought the second unit also played much smarter than the starters as well. That is going to earn you PT because damnit, we're nearly 30 games in. If we are still talking about effort at this point in the season, that's a big problem. Yeah, the 2-3 zone decision had me screaming at my TV and still has me confused. First, it wasn't exactly penetration that was leading to the open 3's as much as it was their good ball movement. Second, our 2-3 zone is the only defense we have that is worse than our straight man to man. Third, we went 2-3 when he took Jesse out which was odd as its typically a protect against penetration and/or foul trouble from your big man type defense. Look, Pat has forgotten more basketball than I've ever known but with the length/ depth he's gonna have on the wing and down low, I'd be interested if he would consider bringing in a defensive strategist and implementing a 3-2 trapping zone that forces opponents to move the ball inside the arc and around our long arms. Agreed again. I know it's been said numerous times over by myself as well as others, but Pat needs to take a long hard look at what exactly Louis Orr is bringing to the table, because I'm not seeing anything added in terms of X's and O's, in-game adjustments, recruiting, etc. I understand Pat needed someone trusted and experienced to help him navigate HC responsibilities within the college scene in the early going, but that grace period should be expiring after year 2. Gotta bring more to the table than that in order to justify keeping a seat for him.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 14:28:39 GMT -5
It's also an awareness issue, which is even more alarming given his experience. Take the one play early in the game where Mintz blew by one of the guards for an uncontested dunk. I get Jessie has physical limitations that probably wouldn't have prevented the dunk, but looking at the replay it's pretty obvious he never even saw Mintz until the ball was through the hoop. To me that's a lack of focus and concentration; no one's expecting him to become a fleet-footed help-side defender overnight, but too often he loses track of either where the ball is or where his man is, and that just can't happen. Perhaps just a minor oversight and you really don't recall, but I think most of us know the guard to remain nameless that got blown by. This is what I'm talking about. Maybe I'm making this stuff up but it seems unreal at times. We had posts attacking Moseley for gods sake (one of the few bright spots) after the Creighton game and another one wondering why we stuck with Blair for so long. We can't have it both ways by saying we want to win now but we should play our favorite players for 30+ minutes regardless of how bad they are being outplayed by their backups. I had no problem with Govan's time in the last game. He wasn't that effective so Pat went elsewhere. Oh completely agree. Too many starters both in the frontcourt and backcourt either losing track of who they needed to help/recover on, not fighting around screens, not knowing where the ball was, etc. They did the same thing in the first Creighton game and it was on the staff to figure out a way to make adjustments, which they did not. To compound the issue, they even went to their largely ineffective zone to try to show a different look, which is kind of insane to do when you're facing a team that wants to do nothing but shoot 3's. The second team is not nearly as talented, but you know by and large they are going to give a solid effort when they're on the floor. Aside from Trey Curry, I thought the second unit also played much smarter than the starters as well. That is going to earn you PT because damnit, we're nearly 30 games in. If we are still talking about effort at this point in the season, that's a big problem.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 11:58:01 GMT -5
Govan's problem on D is that he is slow of foot, and he is not a good one-on-one defender as a result. Some say this is a bigger problem because of a lack of focus/effort. Maybe so. But it isn't all bad with Jessie. He is a decent shot blocker and has saved us a few times this year with blocked shots. Why he does this well and with good effort but falls short in other areas on D is a bit of a mystery. For me, it's not a mystery. He doesn't have even average lower body strength or lateral quickness which is something that happens often with someone his body type. My guess is he has the slowest shuttle drill time on the team and it probably isn't very close. Therefore when his man posts him up, he either tries 1)to exert more effort with his lower half which leads to him being slow with getting his hands up when his player rises straight up to the basket or 2) he tries his other strategy of putting his hands up but loses the limited base strength that he has and can't react quickly when his player goes laterally (doesn't go straight up). If you are preparing your big man for him, that is what you do in the post....wait for him to declare and then base your move off of that. It starts with ay least having a big man that has some moves because if all they have is the straight up move then Jesse can handle that. If they can put the ball on the floor, then he is in trouble big time. He is a much better help defender when the original defender is somewhere in the vicinity due to the same limitations and this is where he gets most of his blocks. If it's a free drive by a guard or forward, he just isn't that sort of rim protector. Most on this board might be surprised at Yurtseven's defense but he's built much better below the waist for post play, has good lateral quickness and can get off the floor quickly. He just has a habit of being overly aggressive at times and will need to stay out of foul trouble. I love Govan's offensive game and am absolutely not a fan of what he is on defense but the "fanboy" stuff on this board has reached a new level where it's almost unbearable with the ammunition that is used to attack one player but excused away on others. It's also an awareness issue, which is even more alarming given his experience. Take the one play early in the game where Mintz blew by one of the guards for an uncontested dunk. I get Jessie has physical limitations that probably wouldn't have prevented the dunk, but looking at the replay it's pretty obvious he never even saw Mintz until the ball was through the hoop. To me that's a lack of focus and concentration; no one's expecting him to become a fleet-footed help-side defender overnight, but too often he loses track of either where the ball is or where his man is, and that just can't happen.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 9:46:18 GMT -5
McDermott coached what I thought was a brilliant game against us on Saturday, with the real key adjustment from the first game being pressuring James up top with 2 guys and betting that he couldn't make us pay for the double. It totally got us off rhythm on the offensive end. It will be interesting to see if Depaul/Leitao caught that on film and tries to implement something similar.
It seems to me that Ewing is getting fairly predictable with when he utilizes his press. It usually comes out of a timeout and after a stretch of the game where we've struggled. I'd like to see him mix that up a bit more; maybe press after we go on a mini-run of our own and really try to go for the throat. Or even within the flow of the game after some of our makes. The good coaches in this league will warn their teams that a press could be coming out of a timeout; our press isn't great to begin so we really do need that element of surprise to catch the other team off guard and steal a cheap turnover or two.
One thing I haven't seen much of mentioned anywhere was the hard fall Josh took on his wrist in the Creighton game. We are going to need an active Josh badly tomorrow night, especially if Jessie continues his sleepwalking routine (save the home Nova game) here in Feb.
Again, with a young team I'm not expecting execution to be perfect, but as other posters have already pointed out, there needs to be a greater sense of urgency and better effort and concentration across the board on both ends.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 26, 2019 9:33:56 GMT -5
Fairly big night on the bubble tonight with 3 of the last 4 teams in on the Bracket Matrix all in action. As much as we need to take care of business this week with our 2 games, the teams we're competing with have to dodge their own land mines as well. Your rooting guide:
10 seed: Ohio St. vs. Iowa (a quality win here likely puts them a single step from safety) 3rd to last team in: Temple at Memphis (really need to have Memphis prevent Temple from securing another Q1 win on the road) 2nd to last team in: Alabama at South Carolina (Bama a slight dog in this one on the road) Last team in: Utah St. vs. San Diego St. (a bad loss here would surely knock them out of the bracket for the time being) 2nd team out: Butler vs. Providence (a Providence win, while damaging Butler, would also give us a shot at another Q1 win @prov) 7th team out: Toledo at Ball St. (another bad loss and their at-large chances are likely shot for good) 10th team out: Indiana vs. Wisconsin (a big opportunity for a name win for Indiana who is fading big time) 14th team out: Dayton at Massachusetts (same as Toledo) 16th team out: Liberty vs. Kennesaw St. (Liberty likely has 0 at large shot, but need the ASun to be a 1 bid league and Lipscomb needs to be that team)
We are 11th team out on the Matrix this morning and tomorrow night is a hold-serve game for us, so we will need help elsewhere for any significant movement up.
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