PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jun 18, 2007 20:58:45 GMT -5
1. We beat UNC but lose to OSU. Jeff leaves. Top 8 team next year
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2. We lose to UNC but Roy and Jeff come back. Overwhelming favorites to win NCAAs?
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 21:02:34 GMT -5
Thats a question that i have found myself often perplexed with, i say beat UNC, since we still have a good chance going into next season. Also because beating UNC is what gave this team most of the national credit they deserved.
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Post by hoyastrong on Jun 18, 2007 21:03:14 GMT -5
regardless of how overwhelmingly favored a team is to go all the way, the chances of actually doing so are pretty slim, it such and incredibly difficult feat. The run we made last year was really something special, that I will treasure forever. I take #1.
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HarbinHoya
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Post by HarbinHoya on Jun 18, 2007 21:13:12 GMT -5
I would probably take #2 to be honest
I would rather have our best possible chance at a championship which I believe is with the team we have this year plus Jeff, than a great run but no championship.
This is not to put a damper on what we did last season or say that is wasnt special etc, I guess I am still just sour from the fact that we didnt win it all and especially with Roy, Jeff and JT3 all together because I really wanted to see those 3 cuts down the nets together for a national championship.
Final Four is awesome, very few teams get to experience that in general and it is a run I will always remember. That said, I think great teams and teams with a killer instinct (I hate to say it because it will annoy people, but Florida) for example, are not satisfied with great runs and second place finishes. As awesome as our run was last year, I was annoyed that people stood around celebrating our great season as if it was the best we could do. We were and we are championship material and should not be sold short.
It was a dissapointment to me that we did not win it last year and we could have, so I would rather have a chance at a championship than a great run with that comes up short.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 18, 2007 21:16:41 GMT -5
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This shouldn't even be a choice. Who knows if the team would make the Final Four again in 2008 even if everyone came back. Plus, it was UNC. No-brainer.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 21:18:17 GMT -5
Im sorry, but does anyone else realize how nice it is to be debating going to the final four or losing in the elite eight but keeping a top ten draft pick, compared to whether we should fire our coach or not?
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Post by hoyastrong on Jun 18, 2007 21:18:44 GMT -5
I would probably take #2 to be honest I would rather have our best possible chance at a championship which I believe is with the team we have this year plus Jeff, than a great run but no championship. This is not to put a damper on what we did last season or say that is wasnt special etc, I guess I am still just sour from the fact that we didnt win it all and especially with Roy, Jeff and JT3 all together because I really wanted to see those 3 cuts down the nets together for a national championship. Final Four is awesome, very few teams get to experience that in general and it is a run I will always remember. That said, I think great teams and teams with a killer instinct (I hate to say it because it will annoy people, but Florida) for example, are not satisfied with great runs and second place finishes. As awesome as our run was last year, I was annoyed that people stood around celebrating our great season as if it was the best we could do. We were and we are championship material and should not be sold short. It was a dissapointment to me that we did not win it last year and we could have, so I would rather have a chance at a championship than a great run with that comes up short. You must not have been there for the run down to the white house.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 21:21:40 GMT -5
Yea I think beating UNC was a definite plus, especially since some of their fans STILL can't admit that we were the better team.
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Post by idhoya on Jun 18, 2007 21:29:30 GMT -5
Does DS have more of a dog in him than JG? I think we may find out this year, but we did see glimpses last season.
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Post by FLHoya on Jun 18, 2007 21:34:35 GMT -5
Uno.
Most fun I've ever had in my life was in the eight weeks between the Gala (Sat. Feb 10) and the Final Four (Sat. Mar 31). Wouldn't have traded that for anything...and nope, it wouldn't have been the same without driving into Atlanta at 5am, walking into an empty Georgia Dome twelve hours later, and all those times on roadtrips when...
...well anyways.
Lot of close calls along the way...I'm not gonna lie, I had that moment during the final commercial break of the Vanderbilt game (I can still remember that Chevy commercial) where I thought "I hope this isn't the end of this great run."
Nothing's ever promised. And maybe the best indicator I experience of that this season only tangentally involved GTown. Before the GU-BC game in Winston-Salem, a bunch of us were killing time in that hockey rink next to the LJVMC watching...the Ohio State-Xavier game.
Wonder how things would have turned out if...
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Post by krey23 on Jun 18, 2007 21:51:19 GMT -5
Standing in Continental with about 8 minutes left in regulation, turning to my dad and saying "This season can't end like this, we're meant to win this game" and then going on our monstrous run to win was the most incredible sports moment I've ever had. I'd take that over a slightly better chance at a NC anyday
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Post by 2ndRyan on Jun 18, 2007 23:45:57 GMT -5
#1 without question.
I loved exorcising the ghosts of '82.
Having spent 2 years of graduate school at Virginia, I have a healthy disrespect for the ACC.
The ACC rose to prominence in the fifties and sixties by draining talent out of the Northeast. I loved the rise of our league in the eighties that staunched that flow.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 18, 2007 23:59:31 GMT -5
#1 by a LANDSLIDE.
Like everyone's said, preseason top ranking doesn't guarantee we do any better than we did this year, so why trade such memorable experiences on a gamble?
Last year being my senior year, I had already loved three and a half years spent at Georgetown. But this season made wearing my Georgetown shirts something different. Every sports fan in the country knows that who we are, and just the campus pride, unity, and entertainment that this brought back can't ever be replaced. It was just the perfect way to move towards graduation, feeling better and better every day about what we're doing. It's also fitting for the last class to ever experience an Esherick year to leave on such a wildly different note.
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Post by Eurostar on Jun 19, 2007 0:04:16 GMT -5
Yea I think beating UNC was a definite plus, especially since some of their fans STILL can't admit that we were the better team. Umm... im not ready to admit that we were the better team. Remember they missed like 24 of their last 26 shots or something... Lawson was coming down and jacking up 3s early in the shot clock and the guy cant even shoot. They basically outplayed us for the first 34 or so minutes of the game before they started acting stupid and let us back in. We were much better coached on that night, but I think they had the most talented team in the country.
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Post by reggie on Jun 19, 2007 0:04:33 GMT -5
#1 we won three of the most, if not the most, exciting games of the tournament
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Post by sleepy on Jun 19, 2007 0:12:14 GMT -5
I don't care who has the most talented team is the country, i care who has the best team in the country! The fact of the matter is we may not have been as TALENTED as UNC, but as a team we were better, and we showed that by not choking and coming back at the end. I want a team that plays 45 min, not 35. Secondly, Although UNC was up from the middle of the first half until we came back, people forget that we stayed even with them most of the second half. They were only up eight the whole second half, until right before we came back, they were up ten. So its not like the dominated us 34 min, we played them even for about 30 min, then there was 5 min at the end of the first half when they went by 6-8. After that we were even, and then surpassed them at the end.
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jun 19, 2007 4:59:17 GMT -5
and dont forget a HUGE reason we fell behind early was because the referree hated us. it was the potential for a crowd riot that swung things around.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 19, 2007 6:53:21 GMT -5
Yea I think beating UNC was a definite plus, especially since some of their fans STILL can't admit that we were the better team. Umm... im not ready to admit that we were the better team. Remember they missed like 24 of their last 26 shots or something... Lawson was coming down and jacking up 3s early in the shot clock and the guy cant even shoot. They basically outplayed us for the first 34 or so minutes of the game before they started acting stupid and let us back in. We were much better coached on that night, but I think they had the most talented team in the country. In five years when all the players from those two teams are playing in the pros we will see which team was truly the most talented.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Jun 19, 2007 9:56:01 GMT -5
#1 because we are still going to win it all this year.
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Post by guru on Jun 19, 2007 10:15:45 GMT -5
Is this a serious question? Give back this year's Final Four? Um, no. That February-March run was one of the greatest runs in Hoya hoops history. Trade it in for a shot at a national title next year, with all the unpredictable elements that come into play (and which we'll have a great shot at anyway)? I think not.
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