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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jun 18, 2007 15:22:52 GMT -5
How much do you get paid for Eastern Motors ads? That's where he's gotta go. Falk should have that lined up already.
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Post by mapei on Jun 18, 2007 15:25:20 GMT -5
Definitely a contender for the most obnoxious ads out there.
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 15:30:33 GMT -5
Yea i agree that i don't think it was a very good decision. It seems as if he was persuaded by NBA Gms to make. I know some guys can put a price on an NCAA championship, one more year with their best friends, and a college degree. I just didn't think Jeff was one of them. Not like I blame him, or think he owes ME anything. It does make me sad thinking that Roy, Wallace, Tyler, and Pat could walk out of here w.o a championship. You have to wonder, does he owe his teammates anything? i mean its not like he could be in this postion without them, and its not like he wouldn't be in this position next year...
Ah well im just being bitter because I think he could have gone higher next year.
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Post by Cambridge on Jun 18, 2007 15:30:52 GMT -5
If he goes to the Celtics, he plays a lot. There are pretty much no vets on that squad, they play small ball, and the young players "above" him on the roster don't have their minutes locked down by any means. Do you think that going to the NBA is best for Jeff Green? I know that I dont. I think Jeff will most likely be a minimal role player on a mediocre to bad NBA team next year. He will eventually develop into a solid NBA player, but I am talking about right now. I think Jeff will go further back in the draft then he would have next year costing him some garaunteed money and if he falls below 10 then I would pretty much classify entering this year as a really bad decision. I think that Jeff coming out in this hot class especially with Oden and Durant lowers his ability to get attention that helps in signing endorsement deals etc Jeff will certainly take longer to get his degree and who knows once you enter the NBA it is hard to continue to go back and take classes to get that which I know he and his family wanted him to get. and finally, he is giving up his best chance to have a college title, not only because of the team we have but because of who others are losing for next year. So overall, I have accepted the fact that he is gone and wish him good luck, but that is not going to make me think its a good decision.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 18, 2007 15:31:52 GMT -5
I think next year's team won't be as good without Jeff (obviously), but I think the following year's team will be better than it would have had Jeff stayed at GU because of the increase in playing time for some players.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jun 18, 2007 15:36:19 GMT -5
I agree with Mapei's and dajuan's points above (and Easy Ed in the main thread). It would be nice to fully reestablish the deflated basketball ethos, which Roy and Jon and Tyler and Pat will do (and Courtland has done). Barring the NBA cancelling early entry, I'm not sure what else can be done except give a kid a chance to test the waters and make an informed decision. Do I wish he was coming back? Absolutely, since I believe he is a program-changing player. But it's his decision, and I have to respect that he took his time making it.
I actually think Jeff's process, as agonizing as it has been for us (and probably him, to be sure), will end up being cited by a lot of folks as the way the new NBA rules are supposed to work. Give a kid some time to learn what is out there and make an informed decision. It sure sounds like Jeff was given every opportunity to gather all the information he could, and IMO, the process speaks pretty highly of III, to get back to the initial point of the thread. Jeff wasn't rushed or pushed into anything and he got plenty of feedback from appropriate sources.
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 15:41:51 GMT -5
Thats true KCHOYA, but we probably still won't win a championship that year or next year, and i REALLY REALLY think Roy Jwall Pat and Crawford DESERVE a championship. Just thinking about this whole situation makes me mad. If Jeff Green had played better offensivly against Ohio St than we would have been in the Championship game, and likely won, considering this Hoya team was out for revenge agains the Gators. I know its not his fault we lost, but still, he has to take a little responsibily for not playing well. Next year, had he stayed, we could pretty much sleep walk through to the final four, and i have 110% once they got there they would have won it all. BUT Jeff decides not to return, making Jons, Roys, Tys, and Pats job THAT much harder. I'm sorry, but if the seniors don't leave here with the nets from San Antonio around their nexts, part of me is always going to be mad at Jeff Green. And yes I do realize that he couldn't care less what I think of him.
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Post by Filo on Jun 18, 2007 15:51:52 GMT -5
Now it goes off the deep end. Geez.
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Post by calhoya on Jun 18, 2007 15:53:06 GMT -5
There is no way to know whether Jeff would have gone any higher next year than this year. Similarly, there is no way to know thta he would not have suffered through a disappointing season or a devastating injury and gone much lower. The key is that the program and the coach showed a real interest in the welfare of the kid and this has to be a plus for the kid, the program and the school. I, too, would have liked another championship, but I am also very happy with the kind of person we seem to have as the coach. The only early departure we should really be concerned with at this point is that of JT III.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 18, 2007 16:00:31 GMT -5
And you really think that Jeff won't get that this year but will get that next year? I think that's grasping at straws. (referencing small shoe deal).
Sleepy, you've officially lost it. Jeff didn't lose the OSU game for us. We wouldn't be there without him.
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Post by theexorcist on Jun 18, 2007 16:11:13 GMT -5
Jeff's departure may be great for the program in that he can both contribute money to the HHC to fund a contract extension for III.
Even better, imagine your 2010-11 season Hoyas playing in Jeff Green's Mom Arena.
I get tears in my eyes just thinking about it.
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Post by Dhall on Jun 18, 2007 16:14:46 GMT -5
I find it funny how people on this board can think it's good that Jeff Green left and bad that Octavius Spann left! Nevertheless, Green was a great player but this year's team was extremely balanced. It wasn't Kobe and the Lakers or Lebron and the Cavaliers.
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Post by sleepy on Jun 18, 2007 16:14:54 GMT -5
I know i know im sorry i really dont believe that, but still i Just want those seniors to not lost their last game next year. And im just mad, not at jeff, but its easy to take it out on him. Personally with the Ohio St, i think we realized how important Pat and Summers were to our team last year, and how important they were to Jeff. Although i do still maintain the position that people forget how inconsitent Jeff was on a half to half basis last year. Always the first half, but still.
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Post by uptownathlete on Jun 18, 2007 17:56:35 GMT -5
Not saying it isn't likely, but I doubt Vern steps in at the 4 and starts. I mean if he does, who comes in for Roy if he gets in foul trouble? Sure, bump Vernon to the 5 and put Pat in at the 4 or even move DaJuan up and bring Austin in, but .............I'd just rather have him backing up Roy, but he should still get some minutes at that four spot.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 18, 2007 17:59:50 GMT -5
Uptown, that's exactly what would happen...as recently as two years ago DJ Owens was our effective backup for Roy. It doesn't really hurt the team at all.
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Post by vcjack on Jun 18, 2007 18:19:40 GMT -5
I agree with the thought that we might be a better team two years from now because of this but if this helps further Jeff's career, then it might be a good long term NBA sucsess, which I think people underate as important for our program.
For Example: ask a casual or disinterested basketball fans to name as many Georgetown players as they can they will probably say Patrick Ewing, AI, and Alonzo Mourning (and probably Mutumbo), and it won't be really for what they did here but what they did in the League. In 5 years from now will Duke fans boast to others that JJ Reddick went there, or Luol Deng? To have a lasting impact on future generations of Hoyas, Jeff needs to have sucsess in the league and if he feels that there is enough opportunity for him to realize his pro sucsess this year, then good for him, lets try and win anyways and wait for the day when people will say with pride that "Jeff Green went here"
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 18, 2007 18:33:40 GMT -5
OK WE WONT BE UNDEFEATED NOW JUST A TRIP TO THE ALAMO THATS ALL THATS ALL GO HOYAS
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Post by prhoya on Jun 18, 2007 23:41:23 GMT -5
sour grapes taste better?
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Post by prhoya on Jun 18, 2007 23:51:17 GMT -5
(I'm not sure this has been posted and the threads are too long to check.) Katz chimes in: sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2907798Georgetown: John Thompson III had already mentally prepared that he might lose Green, the Big East Player of the Year. Originally, when there was talk that both Green and center Roy Hibbert would bolt, Thompson III told ESPN.com that he could see the Hoyas going smaller and being quicker. Now, the Hoyas will be a bit of a blend. They could go with a four-guard lineup with Hibbert since they will have a plethora of options with the return of Jonathan Wallace (who some would argue was this team's most important player at times), Jessie Sapp, Tyler Crawford and Jeremiah Rivers, let alone the addition of two heralded freshmen in Chris Wright and Austin Freeman. But don't discount the emergence of DaJuan Summers in a much more productive role and as well as Vernon Macklin and Patrick Ewing Jr., who is becoming one of the better glue guys in the Big East. Sure, losing Green hurts the fluidity of the squad since he was the player that could be plugged into any spot -- whether it was passing, handling or scoring -- but the pieces are still in place for the Hoyas to be a major factor in the Big East and in contention for the national title. If the Hoyas can run their system as well as they did last season, they'll be doing just fine even without Green.
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Post by uptownathlete on Jun 19, 2007 0:46:37 GMT -5
I have faith that JT III will put the right two pieces together and even develop someone to step into Jeff's role need be.
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