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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 6, 2007 8:54:25 GMT -5
This is not a player we would want. Maybe in JT jr.s later years he would take on a project like this but I would stay away when we already have a legit squad. I would say the same about Mayo as well and any other 1 year player.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 6, 2007 9:13:54 GMT -5
I have nothing against the kid, but for those who say they know him or that he's misunderstood...
Does Beasley have any interest in school whatsoever? I don't blame the kid for focusing on basketball. But no one is dogging him here -- it's just that he doesn't seem interested in going to school. And I don't mean that basketball is primary and school secondary.
So, like I said, is he the least bit interested in going to school? Or is it just a requirement? And like I said, I don't think it is "bad" if he has no interest.
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Post by Filo on Apr 6, 2007 9:16:02 GMT -5
I know this is just talk board stuff and there is nothing out there remotely indicating that we would go after Beasley but...
The program is getting targeted in some corners because of its allegedly poor graduation rate for minority basketball players (see the recent WaPo editorial). Of course, much of what is being said is noise, done with no research or analysis, but this the issue is on the radar screen for one simple reason -- because of the inordinate number of transfers that the program has had over the years.
Transfers happen, and often can't be controlled (you have playing time issues, personality issues, etc.). But it would be absolutely nuts for this program to take in a player who has about a 10% chance of going four years. Adding to that, the program will get reamed if a player leaves (to go pro or to transfer) and he was not in good academic standing when he left.
No chance JTIII would be interested in bringing in Beasley, no matter how good he is.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Apr 6, 2007 9:32:20 GMT -5
So I guess we should ONLY recruit 3 and 4 star players from now on then because in today's game the MAJORITY of 5 star basketball prospects arent LOOKING to stay 4 years.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 6, 2007 10:02:54 GMT -5
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No chance JTIII would be interested in bringing in Beasley, no matter how good he is.
[/quote] How do you know that JT3 WOULD NOT bring Beasley in? You speak like your have first hand knowledge. If you do then great, if you dont then dont act like you do.
Bottom line, If Beasley is interested than JT3 should listen. The name of the game is winning and if he can get into school you let him come to GTown. As long as we are not breaking any rules to get him in, he should be welcomed in to the family with open arms.
JT3 get on the horn with this kid and show him some love!
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Apr 6, 2007 10:29:25 GMT -5
I guess yall don't remember when Beasley and Nolan took an unofficial here last year
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 6, 2007 10:34:32 GMT -5
Get him on the horn JT3.
Forget that one and done crap. Everyone likes to place one and done on players that are great at the H.S. level. Beasley comes off the bench this year as a support player and then dominates his sophomore year and then we take our chancesin terms of him jumping. If Green and Hibbs return we are loaded. A player like him would be the final piece to the puzzle. You can never have to many good players especially if you remember the days of John Jacques, Irvin Church, Courthouse Freeman and Lee Scrubbs.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 6, 2007 12:27:06 GMT -5
Agree, he and Nolan took an unofficial here last winter (late '05 or early '06), so the notion that III would "never take a guy like this" seems like kind of an assumption, even if we weren't seriously recruiting him on that visit. We just don't know.
Honestly, I'd take him. This is a Carmello Anthony, Kevin Durant, Top 3 pick in the NBA draft type player. Yea, it'd be for one year. Everybody would know that going in. We'd recruit to fill his spot. What's to prevent III from talking Beasley into going to class for a semester and a half (to stay eligible) and then leaving early? A lot of top players don't stay for 4 years anymore, what's the difference if he stays for 1 or for 3? I wouldn't expect he'd leave in good academic standing, but we're a school that managed to get a kid with a 600 SAT through a semester and a half. We could probably get "B-Easy" through a semester or two as well.
Yea, we'd take a media hit in some circle, but so what? The more success we have, the more of that negative press you're going to start to see, regardless. Can't let that dictate how your program is run.
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Post by theexorcist on Apr 6, 2007 13:00:47 GMT -5
Actually, Georgetown's system is predicated on the whole being better than the sum of the parts. A top three draft pick might actually make the team worse (see Bill Simmons' Theory Which Shall Not Be Named).
The part that gets me is that KSU may not release recruits from their commitments. KSU sold Huggins as a massive part of the program. Bait and switch. Someone really needs to sue the NCAA and end this.
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Post by Filo on Apr 6, 2007 13:11:14 GMT -5
. How do you know that JT3 WOULD NOT bring Beasley in? You speak like your have first hand knowledge. If you do then great, if you dont then dont act like you do. It's a message board - it's my opinion. You see. posters here generally are interested in Hoya hoops and state their opinions. There are some folks who have some firsthand knowledge of what JTIII is thinking, but they are few and far beteen, and generally don't post on an internet message board. Hang around a bit and you will learn how these things work. That's your opinion. Great. I disagree. I'd like the program to keep winning but have a bit higher standard of "not breaking any rules" in getting there. I gues you would want OJ Mayo too, if he was interested? Or Eric Devendorf? Glad you are not in charge of recruiting.
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Post by Madgesdiq on Apr 6, 2007 13:17:35 GMT -5
Can't let that dictate how your program is run. Yes you can, and you should, and he does.
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Post by Filo on Apr 6, 2007 13:31:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know if it is so much letting the negativity from the media dictate things, but you can and should run a program with that brings in talent but at least atttempts to avoiding getting killed by transfers out / early exits. Given the hits programs will take on transfers, esp. those who are not in good academic standing, it is just not a great idea to go after guys who appear to be one-and-done. At least, I wouldn't, anyway.
That's my problem with Beasley (one-and-done) -- I am not getting into judging him as a person and whether, aside from his talent, he would be a good fit for the team (I don't know enough about him to even get into that).
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Apr 6, 2007 13:38:05 GMT -5
The day we start taking kids who have to be "talked into going to class for a semester and a half to stay eligible" is the day me and a whole bunch of other people I know are out. I have enough faith in JT III that this will never be the case @ GU.
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Post by the_way on Apr 6, 2007 13:45:44 GMT -5
This is not a player we would want. Maybe in JT jr.s later years he would take on a project like this but I would stay away when we already have a legit squad. I would say the same about Mayo as well and any other 1 year player. JT2 would not take this kid.
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Post by chep3 on Apr 7, 2007 13:24:45 GMT -5
Saying that someone would be ok with us taking Eric Devendorf is a low blow. I think we shold have higher standards of decency than that. Anyways, this whole thing is a moot point. www.kansascity.com/165/story/62736.html
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 7, 2007 13:38:03 GMT -5
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 7, 2007 13:40:52 GMT -5
To continue the metaphor from another thread - if Huggins leaving was a break up, is this a rebound with someone who looks a lot like the ex?
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 7, 2007 15:46:19 GMT -5
Of course it's just an accident that Hill was named assistant head coach.
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 7, 2007 16:38:46 GMT -5
. No chance JTIII would be interested in bringing in Beasley, no matter how good he is. JT3 get on the horn with this kid and show him some love![/quote] Beasley signed an LOI for K State. It is strictly against NCAA regulations for JT3 -- or any other coach -- to contact him and attempt to persuade him to reneg on his commitment to K State.
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 7, 2007 21:16:05 GMT -5
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