voltahoya
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Post by voltahoya on Apr 2, 2007 9:55:15 GMT -5
Barker is correct, this may be the most important month in Hoya basketball history. We either use this as a jumping off point to permanent greatness or we fall back to mediocrity.
Everyone that loves the Hoyas needs to send an email or letter to DeGioia and Muir today to let them know how important it is to LOCK JTIII up for 10-15 years---and make a similar commitment to other aspects of the program.
president@georgetown.edu
athletics@georgetown.edu
Tell them that if the school makes a commitment to JTIII the fans and alumni will support the school and give more.
Be polite and respectful in your letters, but be clear that signing JTIII is of unparalleled importance.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 2, 2007 10:19:05 GMT -5
It really is an important stretch. First, the head coach has to be signed to a long-term deal. And second, the school has to capitalize on the program's momentum this time, instead of letting it slip away. Of course, I'm sure both of these things go hand in hand -- undoubtedly an important aspect of the Prez-Coach confab will be about things like facilities (in contrast to some ostrich-types who maintain that they aren't important, JT3 has mentioned numerous times that they're VERY important, because he doesn't want the team to be a "flash in the pan," he wants to build one of the best PROGRAMS in the country at GU) and university commitment.
The ball is now in the administration's court -- sometimes you have to spend something to get something. Last time, the opportunity was squandered. This time, I don't think this particular coach will let it happen. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a long-term deal contained guarantees of things that could make the program a long-range success, and I also would bet that the salary might end up be what some pundits consider not quite "market value" as long as the university shows its strong commitment in other areas.
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Apr 2, 2007 10:54:38 GMT -5
If we lost JTIII after a season like this one it would be the death knell for the program. It would show that even with the great things our team has achieved, the University still isn't willing to make the financial commitment it takes to maintain an elite basketball program.
Of course, to pay JTIII and at least get started on the facilities problem, the money has to be there. The University won't increase JTIII's salary unless they know they'll be able to pay it in the long term without taking money away from other things.
That's where alumni need to step up. Alumni with the financial means to do so have to be willing to help the University out with this one. Pleas for a new contract for JTIII that include promises of increased financial contributions will have a heck of a lot more sway than those that don't. Fans and alumns are going to have to give something to get something in this case.
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DonkDonk
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Post by DonkDonk on Apr 2, 2007 11:27:04 GMT -5
If we lost JTIII after a season like this one it would be the death knell for the program. It would show that even with the great things our team has achieved, the University still isn't willing to make the financial commitment it takes to maintain an elite basketball program. Of course, to pay JTIII and at least get started on the facilities problem, the money has to be there. The University won't increase JTIII's salary unless they know they'll be able to pay it in the long term without taking money away from other things. That's where alumni need to step up. Alumni with the financial means to do so have to be willing to help the University out with this one. Pleas for a new contract for JTIII that include promises of increased financial contributions will have a heck of a lot more sway than those that don't. Fans and alumns are going to have to give something to get something in this case. exactly. I agree that the program will be all but destroyed if we lost JTIII. one should recognize that a lack of effort / $ shown by the university in procuring JTIII will seriously damage our chances of subsequently landing any talented coach. there's an article (haven't had a chance to read yet) titled 'Get ready for the Era of Megaprograms' on espn.com now. it does kind of make me sick that an extra $800,000/one million a year is the difference between life and death for Georgetown sports /school spirit while it is just a drop in the bucket for programs like OSU, Florida, Texas, etc. as i posted earlier - where is our T. Boone Pickens? we need some freewheeling blowhard with WAY too much money that personally will post the extra money needed to retain JTIII. arrgghh. |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 2, 2007 13:03:46 GMT -5
bump
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 2, 2007 13:15:09 GMT -5
OK -- I sent emails to President DeGioia and to AD Muir.
Please do the same.
You would be surprised how much of an impact a flood of emails from alumni can mean.
And let's keep bumping this to the top of the board! (Unless Dan or John want to pin it to the top!)
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Apr 2, 2007 13:27:12 GMT -5
Guys, DeGioia was on Comcast SportsNet on Friday saying he'd meet with III to ensure he had a package "that would keep him at GU for a long to come." Not saying that's the same as KY's package to Donovan but clearly the administration gets it. Not sure how productive it is to flood Bernard's and Jack's in boxes when the plan is in place already...
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 2, 2007 13:34:39 GMT -5
Guys, DeGioia was on Comcast SportsNet on Friday saying he'd meet with III to ensure he had a package "that would keep him at GU for a long to come." Not saying that's the same as KY's package to Donovan but clearly the administration gets it. Not sure how productive it is to flood Bernard's and Jack's in boxes when the plan is in place already... WBH, I read those kinds of comments too. And I hope and pray this will get done. But just because he says he wants to get it done, doesn't mean it will get done. I don't see any harm at all in polite, respectful emails letting the administration know just how many alumni see this as the priority for GU. To look at it the other way, I would think they would be astonished if they did NOT get emails. It is good to keep the pressure on. Then we can all send "thank you" and "Congratulations" emails after they sign off. |
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 2, 2007 14:01:19 GMT -5
Also gotta build him the facility!
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Apr 2, 2007 14:27:08 GMT -5
I wrote a letter this morning. The last time I wrote a letter was about 3 years ago, it worked out pretty well. Just a show of force and interest in the program will give DeGioia even more ammunition when defending his action to trustees and faculty. Trust me, there will be a vocal minority questioning any spending on sports.
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Apr 2, 2007 14:28:49 GMT -5
Also gotta build him the facility! Gotta make sure he's here for us to build him one first though! |
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 2, 2007 15:42:02 GMT -5
Hey, you too can be a pawn in a public contract negotiation! Call today!
DeGioia knows what's what. He did the right thing last time three years ago, I'm sure he'll do the right thing now.
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Post by FairfaxHoya on Apr 2, 2007 15:46:34 GMT -5
Also gotta build him the facility! I vote for another YB march on Georgetown! |
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 2, 2007 15:47:40 GMT -5
I like today's kind of Rally in Healy Circle a lot better!
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Apr 2, 2007 15:49:14 GMT -5
Guys, DeGioia was on Comcast SportsNet on Friday saying he'd meet with III to ensure he had a package "that would keep him at GU for a long to come." Not saying that's the same as KY's package to Donovan but clearly the administration gets it. Not sure how productive it is to flood Bernard's and Jack's in boxes when the plan is in place already... Totally agree. This is a non-issue. Bigger issue than his contract are the longer term issues of a practice facility and on campus arena. |
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voltahoya
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Post by voltahoya on Apr 2, 2007 15:51:17 GMT -5
TC, your post totally confuses me.
How would anyone be a pawn when they take action to get something they want for themselves? I want JTIII around for a very long time. I think most people here agree with me. If you don't please say so and offer some reason why JTIII is not enormously important to the program.
If I take time to help keep JTIII how I am a pawn? If anything I am acting in my own best interest.
Yes JT Jr. is a shrewd businessman and yes he is acting in JTIII's best interests. But that really has nothing to do with my interest in the program. What is good for JTIII is GREAT for the program. And what is great for the program is great for me--and well worth my donation dollars.
Pay the man the money! Then I will pay the school the money. It is that simple.
I am nobody's pawn.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 2, 2007 16:15:59 GMT -5
Speaking as a lowly pawn, I have high regard for DeGioia. But even this lowly pawn remembers that DeGioia re-upped the previous coach despite a history of failure and with no hope in sight. And, as I recall, I believe it was for 7 years. Fortunately for the program, the previous coach then promptly imploded which brought an enormous amount of pressure down on DeGioia to finally do the right thing -- which he ultimately did.
Some may take it for granted that DeGioia andthe admin. know what they are doing and will take care of things. In my opinion, we can't leave these things to chance. I hope they will do the right thing, but I can't see any possible harm in letting the GU Admin. know how we feel and how CRUCIAL this re-negotiation is.
Don't assume anything.
Take what action you can.
Unless, of course, you don't think re-signing JT3 is the most important step this admin must take.
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Post by hilltopper2000 on Apr 2, 2007 16:32:17 GMT -5
Whenever I try to relax and just trust that DeGioia will take care of this one, I keep coming back to the Esh extension. I sincerely hope that DeGioia was simply given bad advice by Expectations Lang and he really didn't study the issue. It was that baffling incident that first turned me against Esh too. I felt that as an alum I could not longer simply support the program but had to voice my disagreements. Letters to University officials do have an impact if they get enough of them. It can't hurt and it may help stave off disaster.
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ephoya04
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Post by ephoya04 on Apr 2, 2007 19:55:44 GMT -5
The only reason for the extension is because you can't have a lame duck coach and I don't think our previous AD was really ALL THAT committed to winning per his comments on making the NCAA every year
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 2, 2007 20:24:43 GMT -5
I dont think having fans get involved and be active in their college team is a bad thing. There are certainly worse problems than this.
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