Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Mar 17, 2007 20:57:21 GMT -5
Both come in as juniors. Both play with tremendous hustle and determination. Not always big scorers but find ways to make an impact on the game.
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HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Mar 17, 2007 21:15:48 GMT -5
I think PE Jr has more range on the J and JYD boarded a bit better but the comparison is very, very good.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Mar 17, 2007 21:20:52 GMT -5
Agree. Jr definitely has a better shot but the intangibles between the two are very similar.
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 17, 2007 21:29:25 GMT -5
Jerome : better ball handling skills, better rebounding.
Patrick Ewing Jr. : more athleticism, better range, better shot blocker, more upside.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 17, 2007 21:31:53 GMT -5
i think pat can develop into an NBA player....anyone else share that sentiment???
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Mar 17, 2007 21:36:06 GMT -5
hes got the size and the athleticism and the genes. could be a good role playing defender.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Mar 17, 2007 22:04:16 GMT -5
the more i see him, the more i think he just might make the league. lately he has really shown a multidimensional game and the sparkplug effect he has on a game is particularly impressive.
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 17, 2007 22:59:48 GMT -5
WOW NOW THAT YOU SAYIT DOES REMIND ME OF JEROME WITH THE ABOVE COMPARISIONS VERY ACCURATE AND HES FREAKING HONEST HE SAID HE DID THE REVERSE 360 DUNK CAUSE HE WAS OFFBALANCE AND IN AN ACKWARD POSITION HONEST TOO GO HOYAS GO PATRICK YOU WERE JEROMESQUE LIKE TONITE WOOWWWOWOWOOWWO TTHE NEW JUNK YARD DOG GO HOYAS  |
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 17, 2007 23:30:13 GMT -5
Both come in as juniors. Both play with tremendous hustle and determination. Not always big scorers but find ways to make an impact on the game. Has any player in the Big East improved more over the past 2.5 months than PE Jr.? It is simply astounding the importance of his role on this team when compared to his minutes/role early in the year. |
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Post by regalmeans on Mar 18, 2007 0:04:22 GMT -5
Both come in as juniors. Both play with tremendous hustle and determination. Not always big scorers but find ways to make an impact on the game. Has any player in the Big East improved more over the past 2.5 months than PE Jr.? It is simply astounding the importance of his role on this team when compared to his minutes/role early in the year. Agreed - he has truly become the Hoyas 6th man and he comes through when needed - I feel as though he does things for this team that may not be as evident in the box score as other players but are truly felt on the court/by his teammates. |
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Post by prhoya on Mar 18, 2007 0:55:57 GMT -5
i think pat can develop into an NBA player....anyone else share that sentiment??? Agree. |
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Mar 18, 2007 1:21:28 GMT -5
What other 6th man can come in and give you some offense from beyond the arc; attacking the rim and the OAF-fensive glass, and hitting pull-up jumpers and ones from the high-post and elbow vs. the zone; have the passing ability Jr. has displayed; PLUS be able to be a solid defender up top, away from the ball, AND even in the post when we go smaller (i.e. minus ROY). THE KID IS AMAZING!! And he is STILL the teams BEST CHEERLEADER. He gives SO much more than anyone off the bench than I can remember in a HOYA uniform in a LONG time. The HOYAS a FORTUNATE Jr. made the RIGHT decision to end up at the Hilltop where he ALWAYS belonged.
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Post by cebuhoya on Mar 18, 2007 1:53:03 GMT -5
One intangible that he brings to the table is mental toughness which gives the team a whole new dimension. He also has ability to come up with momentum changing plays (both on offense and defense) at critical moments. PEJr. also = JYD = Michael Graham.
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Post by hoya91 on Mar 18, 2007 4:25:06 GMT -5
Love PE Jr. and everything he brings to the team!
I remember last year JT III said something about how he had literally won games for them even though he wasn't in the game. At the time I thought it was a stange comment, but now I understand. This guy has heart, hustle, energy, and really does elevate the team's game (even more so now that he is on the court!)
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Post by HoyaSpirit on Mar 18, 2007 4:28:47 GMT -5
He has the most incredible timing on the offensive glass - I can't recall the last time I saw someone in college as consistent as he is on amazing timing of being in the air near the rim ready for a tip in or monster dunk. doesn't matter if he's out at the arc, he can get in there and time it so he's ready.
also his 3 has really come along, he passes well and has post-up moves. i guess he could be an nba back-up. it's funny, he's gone from being a player who might not really make it at the college level to us thinking he could be in the league. I guess that would me most improved player material.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 18, 2007 6:10:37 GMT -5
i think pat can develop into an NBA player....anyone else share that sentiment??? Some writer from a non-local newspaper wrote that Ewing was a likley pro. It was just one guy's opinion but it was he second or third time I read something this year by a journalist about Ewing playing in the NBA. Right now the thing that may be holding Ewing back the most is emotional control and time on the court. But he has all the tools. |
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Post by Hoya50 on Mar 18, 2007 6:34:59 GMT -5
He has the most incredible timing on the offensive glass - I can't recall the last time I saw someone in college as consistent as he is on amazing timing of being in the air near the rim ready for a tip in or monster dunk. doesn't matter if he's out at the arc, he can get in there and time it so he's ready. also his 3 has really come along, he passes well and has post-up moves. i guess he could be an nba back-up. it's funny, he's gone from being a player who might not really make it at the college level to us thinking he could be in the league. I guess that would me most improved player material. patrick is good at getting the athletic rebound (although he missed one on the baseline and if the hoyas lost by 2 i would have screamed). i would like to see patrick work more on his positioning (see jerome) and get more of the position rebound. he would then be a force on the glass. i saw him at the fairfield game and honestly thought he had no place on this team. his dramatic improvement these past few months is one of the great stories from this season. |
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 18, 2007 6:53:24 GMT -5
He has the most incredible timing on the offensive glass - I can't recall the last time I saw someone in college as consistent as he is on amazing timing of being in the air near the rim ready for a tip in or monster dunk. doesn't matter if he's out at the arc, he can get in there and time it so he's ready. also his 3 has really come along, he passes well and has post-up moves. i guess he could be an nba back-up. it's funny, he's gone from being a player who might not really make it at the college level to us thinking he could be in the league. I guess that would me most improved player material. patrick is good at getting the athletic rebound (although he missed one on the baseline and if the hoyas lost by 2 i would have screamed). i would like to see patrick work more on his positioning (see jerome) and get more of the position rebound. he would then be a force on the glass. i saw him at the fairfield game and honestly thought he had no place on this team. his dramatic improvement these past few months is one of the great stories from this season. I don't think it is as much as improvement as it is getting his legs back and getting comfortable after a year off. What he is doing now is not much different than what I and others reported him doing during the '05 Kenner Summer League. His '06 KL performance was not nearly as good and perhaps that was because that was following the season in which he sat out and could not suit up and play. Now he is rounding back into form. The athleticism, the energy, the three-point shooting, the passing, etc are all facets he displayed in fine fashion back in the summer of 2005. Sure there has been improvement overall as the season has progressed but that is the case with most players on the GU team. But there is nothing Ewing is showing now that we did not see when he made such a fantatsic impression when he suited up for the Tombs two years ago. |
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Post by Hoya50 on Mar 18, 2007 7:36:08 GMT -5
patrick is good at getting the athletic rebound (although he missed one on the baseline and if the hoyas lost by 2 i would have screamed). i would like to see patrick work more on his positioning (see jerome) and get more of the position rebound. he would then be a force on the glass. i saw him at the fairfield game and honestly thought he had no place on this team. his dramatic improvement these past few months is one of the great stories from this season. I don't think it is as much as improvement as it is getting his legs back and getting comfortable after a year off. What he is doing now is not much different than what I and others reported him doing during the '05 Kenner Summer League. His '06 KL performance was not nearly as good and perhaps that was because that was following the season in which he sat out and could not suit up and play. Now he is rounding back into form. The athleticism, the energy, the three-point shooting, the passing, etc are all facets he displayed in fine fashion back in the summer of 2005. Sure there has been improvement overall as the season has progressed but that is the case with most players on the GU team. But there is nothing Ewing is showing now that we did not see when he made such a fantatsic impression when he suited up for the Tombs two years ago. never seeing pe jr in the kenner leagues, my only impression of him was based on his play at iu where he was inconsistent at best. maybe that was due to mike davis not using him correctly - i'm not sure. then seeing him in person at fairfield made me think that maybe he was just a legacy player. i was nervous that this team's depth took a big hit with marc leaving. but, pe has exceeded any expectations i had for him and frankly is playing at a much higher level than marc was before his departure. |
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Post by Gold Coast Hoya on Mar 18, 2007 8:01:28 GMT -5
Tremendous improvement no doubt about it. I hope in the off-season he works on his inside post-up game. If that develops he will start next year. GO HOYAS!!!!!!!!!!
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