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Post by wildhoya on Feb 23, 2007 14:37:52 GMT -5
What conflicts with JT2?
And what is up with these "diva" media types and their "conflicts" with the people they cover?
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Post by CO_Hoya on Feb 23, 2007 14:41:46 GMT -5
Too long to explain, maybe it deserves a archived post somewhere. This dates back to a perceived slight circa 1982 where Feisntein thought the elder Thompson held him back from getting the Georgetown beat because it went to Mark Asher and later Mike Wilbon instead. (Maybe the Post's sports editor at the time had a little something more do do with it.) Shameles highjack warningNow this is the sort of thing I was hoping someone would write up on the new blog. Gratuitous plea: If anyone wants to be a Hoya "Mythbuster" of sorts and write up some of these legends (Feinstein; GU v. UMCP/WG, etc.), I'd be greatly appreciative.
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Post by majic on Feb 23, 2007 14:44:01 GMT -5
More Junior fodder--this morning on Washingtonpost.com radio the interviewer asked him about Georgetown and Junior actually said that he thought Georgetown would beat Pitt tomorrow (yes, it's true, he said it)...however, he qualified it with...because Aaron Gray is hurt and probably won't play up to his potential. You knew it was too good to be true. But at least he's consistent.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 23, 2007 15:53:45 GMT -5
Cam, you're a legend. And your avatars continue to impress. Re: Feinstein - A writer can write whatever they want about us so long as it's accurate, but what makes Feinsein=BUM (besides what's been mentioned above) and what bothers me about his failure to cover the Hoyas is a matter of journalistic integrity: he's a member of the local media, and the Hoyas are the premier local team. He writes about every other team. It follows that he should cover the Hoyas and he disregards that imperative. Thus, he does a disservice to his paying constituency and degrades his professional integrity. [tangent] And it kills me that the Express has no Hoyas coverage to speak of. Every morning/monday after a game I look forward to reading a blurb on the Metro on the way to work and ..... denied. So I get stuck with more UMCP drooling, or -- like yesterday -- a teeny tiny blurb about Chief Illiniwek's last dance and NO mention of the Hoyas extending the streak to 10 or Roy once again leading the nation in FG% [/tangent]
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Post by hoyasexy on Feb 23, 2007 16:00:31 GMT -5
Tony has made it quite clear that he did not like JT2 during JT2's coaching days. Thompson's closed door policy, while never popular with the media, was taken especially hard by Mr. Tony. I get the sense that they have since made up - probably from working together at 980.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 23, 2007 16:12:34 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 23, 2007 16:13:06 GMT -5
ps and in case it wastnot clear I CANT STAND THE GUY
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 23, 2007 16:23:25 GMT -5
Cam, you're a legend. And your avatars continue to impress. Re: Feinstein - A writer can write whatever they want about us so long as it's accurate, but what makes Feinsein=BUM (besides what's been mentioned above) and what bothers me about his failure to cover the Hoyas is a matter of journalistic integrity: he's a member of the local media, and the Hoyas are the premier local team. He writes about every other team. It follows that he should cover the Hoyas and he disregards that imperative. Thus, he does a disservice to his paying constituency and degrades his professional integrity. [tangent] And it kills me that the Express has no Hoyas coverage to speak of. Every morning/monday after a game I look forward to reading a blurb on the Metro on the way to work and ..... denied. So I get stuck with more UMCP drooling, or -- like yesterday -- a teeny tiny blurb about Chief Illiniwek's last dance and NO mention of the Hoyas extending the streak to 10 or Roy once again leading the nation in FG% [/tangent] A lack of after game coverage in the Express isn't what bothers me, since I have the feeling their deadline is too early for some/most of our games, but what really grinds my gears is when they don't have anything on gamedays.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 23, 2007 16:25:39 GMT -5
Cam, you're a legend. And your avatars continue to impress. Re: Feinstein - A writer can write whatever they want about us so long as it's accurate, but what makes Feinsein=BUM (besides what's been mentioned above) and what bothers me about his failure to cover the Hoyas is a matter of journalistic integrity: he's a member of the local media, and the Hoyas are the premier local team. He writes about every other team. It follows that he should cover the Hoyas and he disregards that imperative. Thus, he does a disservice to his paying constituency and degrades his professional integrity. [tangent] And it kills me that the Express has no Hoyas coverage to speak of. Every morning/monday after a game I look forward to reading a blurb on the Metro on the way to work and ..... denied. So I get stuck with more UMCP drooling, or -- like yesterday -- a teeny tiny blurb about Chief Illiniwek's last dance and NO mention of the Hoyas extending the streak to 10 or Roy once again leading the nation in FG% [/tangent] A lack of after game coverage in the Express isn't what bothers me, since I have the feeling their deadline is too early for some/most of our games, but what really grinds my gears is when they don't have anything on gamedays. I thought of that (and that would be a totally legit reason) ... the problem is that they have day-after UMCP coverage, and sometimes GW coverage. And yes, the lack of gameday -- or right before gameday -- coverage is just really lame. I didn't see the Express today: was there any mention of tomorrow's game?
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Post by TigerHoya on Feb 23, 2007 16:27:39 GMT -5
The one time I got Express was the leftovers at Greenbelt the day of the Marquette game. Good coverage that Friday but I guess it stinks the rest of the time.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 23, 2007 16:41:16 GMT -5
That's a good point -- easily the best Express article on the Hoyas was the Friday before the Marquette game. Unfortunately, that was the only time we've been on the from page of the Sports 'section', and we're usually relegated to a small blurb next to a massive column about Coach Sweaty's boys or the girls from Foggy Bottom (or -- and in one case twice in the same paper -- Duke).
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Feb 23, 2007 16:59:24 GMT -5
anyone know why feinstein has an issue with the hoyas?
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Post by TigerHoya on Feb 23, 2007 17:01:51 GMT -5
As I heard it on this board and other places, it was the closed practice policy and not dealing with the press in the 80s... specifically Feinstein was originally planning on doing the book that he wound up writing about Knight and IU on JT/GU.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 23, 2007 17:31:16 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 23, 2007 17:53:52 GMT -5
Never understood why this guy riles hoyas fans so much. Him saying we are not at the level of UNC, OSU and Florida is not exactly an insult. The writers don't make the hoyas win or lose, so just let the petty stuff from people like Feinstein roll off your back He's a "College Basketball Expert" for the Washington Post, with a weekly column. Somehow, over the last 6 weeks, when the Hoyas have been undefeated over 10 games and vaulted into the national consciousness, he's seen fit to write columns about the likes of American, Loyola (MD), Harvard, Penn and Air Force, but not about the Hoyas. He's a BUM. Actually in the three or more years that he has done this column he has YET to write anything about Gtown.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2007 18:22:21 GMT -5
anyone know why feinstein has an issue with the hoyas? I pray you're joking.
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 23, 2007 18:25:25 GMT -5
Cam, you're a legend. And your avatars continue to impress. Re: Feinstein - A writer can write whatever they want about us so long as it's accurate, but what makes Feinsein=BUM (besides what's been mentioned above) and what bothers me about his failure to cover the Hoyas is a matter of journalistic integrity: he's a member of the local media, and the Hoyas are the premier local team. He writes about every other team. It follows that he should cover the Hoyas and he disregards that imperative. Thus, he does a disservice to his paying constituency and degrades his professional integrity. [tangent] And it kills me that the Express has no Hoyas coverage to speak of. Every morning/monday after a game I look forward to reading a blurb on the Metro on the way to work and ..... denied. So I get stuck with more UMCP drooling, or -- like yesterday -- a teeny tiny blurb about Chief Illiniwek's last dance and NO mention of the Hoyas extending the streak to 10 or Roy once again leading the nation in FG% [/tangent] Its worse with the Examiner. The dude for the Examiner loves the Terps. When he was concedeing last seaso that the Hoyas were the best team in the area and likley the ebst team to-be in 2006-2007, he also pointed out that the Terps were still the most popular team in the DC area (no kidding-----its the only state school in the DC area if you don't include UVa and VTech---its going to have more fans, but that's not the point). When the Hoyas stumbled early he saw that as a great excuse to not cover the Hoyas too much and when the Terps wo early he called them a Final Four caliber team. I'm gonna e-mail this clown sometime this upcoming week. It doesn't stop there. Years ago when Gtown was getting far less coverage than the Terps, people at the WPost and WTimes told me over the phone it was because Maryland was winnging while Gtown was "down". But now with the Hoyas being the better team for back-to-back seasons, waht's the excuse? The Terps stil get more coverage. Terps get articles two to three days leading up to a contest while Gtown's coverage is limited almost exclusively to game day coverage (articles appearing the day of game) and post game coverage (articles/writeups that appear in print the day after the game). A handful of times each season Maryland gets coverage for an upcoming game the day before the game is played. The Hoyas have only gotten such treatment once that I can recall this season and that was for the Villanova game. And that in part was because both the Times and the Post wanted to dedicate an article to Nova's Scottie Reynolds. Here we are approaching one of the biggest college games of the season with so much at stake (GU vs Pitt---both 11-2--- with the winer being the likley champion of the BE) and there wasn't one article about it i today's Post or Times. Maryland will also get extended-post game coverage which is coverage two days removed. For example if a game is played on Tuesday not only will the Terps get the routine article on Wednesday, but another article on a player or the team will pop up on Thursday. Not once do I recall the Hoyas getting such treatment this season (though I could have just forgotten about it). Today the Times gave us an artiicle on the Terps' juco-bum Ousby (sp?). Last of all columns have been infrequent when in comparison to the days the Terps were successful. The Times have not done one single column on GU while the Terps' men have had at least two or three and the Lady Terps have had two of their own. Mike Wise is the only guy from the Post to do columns for GU this season which is different from the recent past when all the columnists took turns writing about Maryland. Wilbon finally got around to writing his first college bball column this season (in today's Post) and it was about Gary Williams and his Terps. Want to know how ridiculous it is? Consider this....the Post has yet to write a full feature (front of the sports page) article on Jeff Green during his three seasons at Georgetown. Not one. Absurd. Its time for Hoya fans to start contacting these rags.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 23, 2007 21:27:32 GMT -5
HEY WE WIL JUST WIN AND THEY CAN LOOK BAD WIN ONE BY ONE STARTING TOMMARROW BEAT PITT AND THEN THE REST ONE BY ONE TILL THE SEASON IS DONE DONE DONE WHO LOST TO THE EVENTUAL CHAMPS LAST YEAR BYT THE LEAST AMOUNT AND WHO WAS ONE SHOT AND OR REBOUND AWAY FROM MAYBE GOING ALL THE WAY QUESS WHO ITS GREAT TO BE AN UNAPPREICATED HOYA TILL THE VERY END AND I DO MEAN VERY END WE CAN AND SHOULD BUT FIRST TOMMARROW FOLKS FIRST PITT FOR FIRST AND THEN??? PERCHANCE TO DREAM DREAM DREAM YOU GOTTA BELIEVE GO HOAYS ;D ;D ;D PSS STILL DONT LIKE FEINSTEIN TOO MUCH WELL.. NOT AT ALL GO HOYAS
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Feb 23, 2007 23:09:24 GMT -5
I'll never forget the look on his face.
It's probably the only thing I remember after Lulu's that morning.
Speaking of kegs and eggs...see you at breakfast boys.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 24, 2007 11:02:31 GMT -5
hes a bum period go hoyas beat pitt make him eat cake or crow or turtle soup or devilled eggs or whatever BEAT PITT DONT PLAY ON WED ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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