hoyabands
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Post by hoyabands on Feb 19, 2007 2:15:05 GMT -5
he also correctly states that we will be favored in our remaining 4 regular season games which would bump us up to 2-seed status. running the table at the BET and some faltering by the other big guns could give us that cherished #1 seeding. but lets obviously not get ahead of ourselves. go hoyas, beat cincy! proxy.espn.go.com/ncb/region?group=2&teamId=46#46 |
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Post by coloradohoya on Feb 19, 2007 7:19:33 GMT -5
Clearly he spent a lot of time on this one. Marquette is a 7 seed in the same region. This can't happen per NCAA seeding rules. No two teams from the same conference can be in the same half of a bracket (unless they have 9 bids).
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 19, 2007 11:29:44 GMT -5
A 1 is a major stretch. I am hoping for a 4-0 end to the season and 2-1 in NYC to leave the team a bit hungry. UF won as a #3 last year and I think a #3 or better would be solid to make a run in the tourney. I just don't see UNC or OSU winning with that many freshman. I think Florida is the obvious team to beat and Wisconsin is going to be a very tough team.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 19, 2007 12:39:13 GMT -5
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Post by redskins12820 on Feb 19, 2007 13:24:18 GMT -5
Clearly he spent a lot of time on this one. Marquette is a 7 seed in the same region. This can't happen per NCAA seeding rules. No two teams from the same conference can be in the same half of a bracket (unless they have 9 bids). Well actually he does seem to address that. hate to rain on your parade. From his FAQ page... "One change worth repeating for 2006-07 is that teams from the same conference may now meet as early as the second round of the Tournament. Previously, teams from the same conference could not meet before a regional final. This change is designed the give the committee more flexibility as it brackets what could be record number(s) of teams from the new mega-conferences." sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?page=bracketologyfaq |
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 19, 2007 14:01:28 GMT -5
I think the rule is... the top three SEEDS from a conference need to be in different regions.
At least, that's what it used to be.
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Feb 19, 2007 19:54:58 GMT -5
Win out and win BET would be 27-5 (14-2 BET) with 10-0 in last 10 (heck, 16-0 in last 16). That's a lock for at least a #2 and an outside shot at the last #1 (if a team like UNC or UCLA didn't win their conference tourney). Already, you know that OSU or Wisconsin both can't win their tourney (and they may play again in the regular season).
I think a modest assessment is 3-1 to close season and 2-1 in BET. That's 25-7 (13-3 reg season BE, and 15-4 overall). Last 10 would be 8-2. Major wins: Nova, Lville, Marquette, possibly Pitt (though I was counting that as one of the losses), Michigan, ND. That's probably a 3 or a 4.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Feb 19, 2007 20:04:26 GMT -5
Vandy win helps too
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Post by coloradohoya on Feb 19, 2007 20:13:07 GMT -5
Clearly he spent a lot of time on this one. Marquette is a 7 seed in the same region. This can't happen per NCAA seeding rules. No two teams from the same conference can be in the same half of a bracket (unless they have 9 bids). Well actually he does seem to address that. hate to rain on your parade. From his FAQ page... One change worth repeating for 2006-07 is that teams from the same conference may now meet as early as the second round of the Tournament. Previously, teams from the same conference could not meet before a regional final. This change is designed the give the committee more flexibility as it brackets what could be record number(s) of teams from the new mega-conferences. This is from the Selection Procedures from NCAA (it was last update Nov. 2005 -- so it's possible there has been a change the NCAA hasn't published) 13. Conference teams shall not meet each other prior to the regional final unless a ninth team is se¬lected from a conference. Two teams from the same conference within the same region, therefore, shall not be seeded together in either of the following groups: Nos. 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13 and 16; or Nos. 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14 and 15. 14. There shall not be more than two teams from a conference in one region unless a ninth team is se¬lected from a conference. |
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Feb 19, 2007 20:19:53 GMT -5
Colorado - that's all I could find too. But I'll bet the NCAA hasn't published the most recent edition. Whatever you think of Lunardi's judgment, he seems pretty sharp and this is his livelihood - I'm sure he knows the selection procedures up to the minute.
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Post by coloradohoya on Feb 19, 2007 20:24:04 GMT -5
Colorado - that's all I could find too. But I'll bet the NCAA hasn't published the most recent edition. Whatever you think of Lunardi's judgment, he seems pretty sharp and this is his livelihood - I'm sure he knows the selection procedures up to the minute. Probably true, but I just don't like him, and even in ignorance would prefer to think he messed up. |
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Post by bostonhoya05 on Feb 19, 2007 20:28:40 GMT -5
Well, here's from Andy Katz's column a couple weeks ago. He participated in a 20-member mock selection with college basketball writers from around the country. "Conference affiliation wasn't mentioned at all until the final step of putting teams in the bracket, so as to avoid pitting conference teams against one another prior to the regional final." sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=2758650(It's actually fun to read now because you know how GU has succeeded in the interim) Now they had a guy from the NCAA in the room with them, so you would imagine that this is accurate... I think we can all agree that the BE is getting less than 9, but how does this apply if there are 7. I just don't want any part of Jay Wright and the Wildcats. |
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 19, 2007 22:15:48 GMT -5
I don't know about Lunardi, but most of the guys who make mock brackets in season mention that they don't spend a ton of time on the minutiae (protected seeds, conference affiliation) as they pump out 1 or 2 projected brackets per week. I'll take the tradeoff of slightly less accurate seeding for the increased volume of february discussion fodder.
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Z
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Post by Z on Feb 20, 2007 3:27:12 GMT -5
BYU, A&M and WI as the top competition? a boy can dream...
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 20, 2007 10:15:29 GMT -5
I think a modest assessment is 3-1 to close season and 2-1 in BET. That's 25-7 (13-3 reg season BE, and 15-4 overall). Last 10 would be 8-2. Major wins: Nova, Lville, Marquette, possibly Pitt (though I was counting that as one of the losses), Michigan, ND. That's probably a 3 or a 4. That is absolutely a 3 seed.. and I think it's safe to say at this point that we are in the national spotlight enough for the pundits (including those that make up the committee) understand how good of a team we are and how much noise we can potentially make in the Dance -- that will factor into the seeding. We will continue to rise on Lunardi's brackets and the power 16 and all of these other things. I believe we get a 2 seed -- sticking by it. |
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 20, 2007 10:50:47 GMT -5
I want a 1. I believe that if we win out, we get it.(knock on wood)
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 20, 2007 21:57:44 GMT -5
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 20, 2007 22:02:33 GMT -5
ITHNIK THERE WILL ONLY BE SIX.. ALL BEATING EACH OTHER LIKE PROVIDENCE TONITE VS. WEST VA.. GO HOYAS BEAT CINCY AND THEN ALL ONE BY ONE BY AT LEAST ONE THEN NC AND FLORIDA OPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSS HOLD ON JUST BEAT CINCY ;D
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Feb 20, 2007 22:19:58 GMT -5
Man, I would LOVE it if the brackets worked out like that!! I think we'd be the favorite in that St. Louis Region if it worked out like that---- It would be nice meeting Fla. in the Final Four, and UNC or UCLA not until the Championship Game.
I think Wisconsin and Ohio State very well would have already lost 3 or 4 games already in our conference by now, hence, they are where they are in the rankings at this time. Looking at the Standings in the Big 6 Conferences makes it appear that each of the conferences seem to be top-heavy for the most part, therefore, some of their rankings might be a bit inflated because of their cruising through their conference schedules (thinking Wis, OSU; UCLA, WSU; Kan, A&M; Fla,; us and Pitt, and UNC, BC (to a lesser extent).
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Feb 21, 2007 14:27:04 GMT -5
I am hoping for a 4-0 end to the season and 2-1 in NYC to leave the team a bit hungry. 2-1 in NYC would leave me very depressed. Nine teams have won the BE tourney since we won it last in 1988, and this year will be as good a chance as we have had (on paper) since 1996. I know board opinion is mixed on this issue, but I want a BE tournament championship this year first and foremost. |
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