OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 13, 2007 11:06:46 GMT -5
Wow. This team just beat the team that beat the supposedly # 2 team in the country a couple of days ago with ease. They were up 30 pts in the 2nd half. They are coming off 3 tough games in 6 days. Amazing! I went back last night and looked at the ND and Marguette games in the BE tournament. This team is superior because Hibbert, Green and Wallace are 3rd year students of this system. Most teams run a set play and if it does not work they take the ball back and reset for another play.
The Hoya offense seems to be one play with a thousand options, depending on what the defense does. If they do this then we do that, and if they counter that then we do this, etc. They struggled at times last year because after 2 years the players only knew some of the options. Now they know more and this offense is trully scary. If Hibbert, Green, and Wallace stay for the full 4 years and become proficient in even more options, this team would be like watching Tiger Woods play golf, a masterpiece in the making. Oh, and by the way, they are playing great team defense at the same time.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 13, 2007 13:21:23 GMT -5
This offense is very much like the Dutch soccer (football) team offense which is fluid and is all based on positions of defense and on own players. It is about making space and creating mis-matches. You are so right that it is like one play with a thousand options, which is the heart of the Dutch soccer system. This type of game depends on smart players who know they system, trust each other, and can think as well as execute on the options.
This new brand of Hoya basketball is absolutely beautiful to watch.
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casualhoya
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Post by casualhoya on Feb 13, 2007 13:47:00 GMT -5
Dutch soccer and Hoya hoops.
Definitely see the resemblance.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Feb 13, 2007 13:51:32 GMT -5
I get what you're saying about the Dutch offense, but it doesn't win them the Cup. The Dutch don't win when it counts and GU will win it all.
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hoyanick
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Post by hoyanick on Feb 13, 2007 14:00:01 GMT -5
Another problem with this comparison: the Dutch wear ORANGE!!!
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HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 13, 2007 14:05:41 GMT -5
weird thread
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Loyal Hoya
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Feb 13, 2007 14:59:31 GMT -5
I think "Total Basketball" works, but I don't know about Clockwork Gray!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 13, 2007 17:08:24 GMT -5
i agree with this analogy! Very astute saxagael
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Feb 13, 2007 17:34:16 GMT -5
I've seen the Dutch. Their goalkeeper travels every time he touches the damn ball! And the refs never call it. Frickin' ridiculous!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2007 18:37:41 GMT -5
Never... EVER... compare Hoya hoops to some sport where a bunch of euros wail around and fake injuries.
If Ewing Jr. had "bumped" some sissy soccer player, the guy would have flopped around like a fish out of water.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Feb 13, 2007 18:42:19 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 13, 2007 22:31:24 GMT -5
buff i'm not going to start this debate with you. But you're wrong. To genralize about all soccer players because of those lame as itlaians is inappropriate.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 14, 2007 0:42:04 GMT -5
buff i'm not going to start this debate with you. But you're wrong. To genralize about all soccer players because of those lame as itlaians is inappropriate. Hey now, don't go blasting the Italians...they get paid good money to rig those games and take those dives. |
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 14, 2007 0:46:19 GMT -5
Never... EVER... compare Hoya hoops to some sport where a bunch of euros wail around and fake injuries. If Ewing Jr. had "bumped" some sissy soccer player, the guy would have flopped around like a fish out of water. Zinedane Zidane, Eric Cantona, Vinnie Jones, they could probably hang with the Hoyas. The rest are a bunch of Edited. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2007 9:34:23 GMT -5
buff i'm not going to start this debate with you. But you're wrong. To genralize about all soccer players because of those lame as itlaians is inappropriate. Fine, take the Italians out of it. You're still left with a bunch of floppers. Comparing soccer to Hoya hoops is like comparing the crap they scrape off the Wisey's flat top grill after cooking a Burger Madness to a porterhouse from Peter Luger's. |
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Eurostar
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Post by Eurostar on Feb 14, 2007 10:15:26 GMT -5
Fine, take the Italians out of it. You're still left with a bunch of floppers. and college basketball players dont flop? |
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JB5
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Post by JB5 on Feb 14, 2007 10:43:56 GMT -5
Pittsnogle flopped as a pro
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 14, 2007 11:17:03 GMT -5
As someone who grew up playing hockey, I cannot believe we're trying to talk about how "tough" basketball players are.
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hoyanick
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Post by hoyanick on Feb 14, 2007 13:34:03 GMT -5
Anyone remember Brian McBride' bloody and bruised face during the past World Cup? Looked like he had been run over by a tank.
I can understand when traditional-minded American sports fans criticize soccer for its pace or the propensity for the clearly out-played team to win 1-0, but please don't try to pass off basketball or baseball as more physical sports. Flopping exists in soccer, but its being regulated.
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Post by guhoyasfan36 on Feb 14, 2007 13:41:18 GMT -5
What's this soccer everyone is talking about?
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