TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on Jan 23, 2007 12:14:29 GMT -5
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jan 23, 2007 12:19:02 GMT -5
not a surprise given the school he attends...this was always going to be the final result
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HealyHoya
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Post by HealyHoya on Jan 23, 2007 12:22:28 GMT -5
While I'm all for accountability and believe the kid should have received some form of punishment, this seems a bit steep. I'm not looking to start rumors on the board but the punishment seems to suggest that perhaps there is more to the situation. If not, then there seems to be a sizeable disconnect betweent the "crime" and the punishment.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2007 12:24:25 GMT -5
While I'm all for accountability and believe the kid should have received some form of punishment, this seems a bit steep. I'm not looking to start rumors on the board but the punishment seems to suggest that perhaps there is more to the situation. If not, then there seems to be a sizeable disconnect betweent the "crime" and the punishment. Nope, it's Notre Dame. This is standard punishment, apparently, and not at all surprising. |
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paranoya
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Post by paranoya on Jan 23, 2007 12:31:18 GMT -5
Thats a shame. Ill bet if he was underage drinking, something that can actually kill you, the punishment would've been severely less.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 23, 2007 12:35:47 GMT -5
I sem to recall Big John tossed Ed Sheffey.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Jan 23, 2007 13:03:56 GMT -5
Sheffey seems like a parallel, but it was much less clear what occurred. As I recall, Sheffey was busted over the summer, did not play basketball first semester sophomore year, and then left school for second semester. He was never formally suspended from school, and there was the implication in fall 97 that he would be able to return if he got his act together. Pops was judge, jury, and executioner. McAlarney's punishment appears to come from a school judicial process that involved other administrators, and I don't know of many prep schools that would toss a kid for a first offense with pot, let alone colleges. Either ND is very tough or there is more to the story.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 23, 2007 13:06:59 GMT -5
Hope it hurts them with recruiting! ;D
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2007 13:07:07 GMT -5
ND is very tough. Keep in mind that he was also caught with pot in his car. While the police didn't charge him with driving under the influence, the University isn't held to same burden of proof.
That's a lot more serious offense than just possession.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 23, 2007 13:14:44 GMT -5
Hope it hurts them with recruiting! ;D Oh yeah, they were really getting the same quality recruits that we are. Macalarney's a good recruit - but he's not fit to hold Austin or Chris' jock. |
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 23, 2007 13:16:34 GMT -5
too bad for the kid...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 23, 2007 13:30:53 GMT -5
The word "suspended" is a bit misleading. According to ND Nation, he was dismissed (once known as expelled) with the opportunity to reapply. Suspension suggests that he is only gone for a semester and is back in the fall. www.ndnation.com/index.php |
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Jan 23, 2007 13:38:30 GMT -5
So is he being kicked out because he has made the institution look bad or can schools today suspend/expell students based on criminal activities outside the realm of the school?
Clearly, he shouldn't be playing, but it's not as clear if this verdict is the result of McAlarney being an athlete who has special privledges and responsibilities or ND is really so strict that you're basically "always" on their campus.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Jan 23, 2007 13:42:11 GMT -5
Most student codes of conduct (including GU's) include a portion about school penalties for committing crimes, etc., no matter where they happen.
In terms of what schools "can" do, most private colleges retain a wide range of rights in terms of what is a "dismissable offense," and generally that category is left intentionally vague. I'd imagine public universities have a slightly tougher time suspending/expelling students.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 23, 2007 14:34:33 GMT -5
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 23, 2007 14:47:10 GMT -5
I think a four game suspension would have been plenty and you could tell him the next time he is gone. Don't the domers believe in all that "He who cast the first stone" stuff???
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aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Jan 23, 2007 15:01:33 GMT -5
A bit severe for just some Weed.
It's not like he had 3 pounds in his dorm and was selling it.
I wish him luck. A mistake like this shouldn't cost a kid his future.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Jan 23, 2007 15:03:08 GMT -5
Well, they'll need something to blame their season on (we all know they'll burn up), perhaps they simply love to have "We hold our kids to standards" debates every year
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hoyanick
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Post by hoyanick on Jan 23, 2007 15:09:41 GMT -5
One of my high school friends who went to Notre Dame smoked morning and night in his ND dorm room. This suspension is unfair and inconsistent, when taking into account what non-athletes get away with.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Jan 23, 2007 15:11:13 GMT -5
If he was expelled as that NDNation article says, it is flat out absurd.
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but im wondering how many times bc will suspend their shot blocker williams do you get thirthteen chances at bc??? go hoyas may bc lose alll their remaining games go hoyas beat depaul 
