BigMike
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Post by BigMike on Jul 27, 2006 17:21:09 GMT -5
I think averaging approx. 15,000/big east game would be a good goal for us this season.
Looking at our schedule I think it might be possible - do these attendance predictions seem reasonable?
Depaul--------11G Marquette----11G Cincy----------12G Pitt-------------16G Nova-----------16G WVU------------16G UConn----------18G ND---------------18G
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YB
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Post by YB on Jul 27, 2006 17:23:48 GMT -5
We should shoot for 20k every game. It may sound ambitious, but Washingtonians are notorious frontrunners. And my friends, we will be frontrunning this year.
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Post by LetsGoNova on Jul 27, 2006 18:26:24 GMT -5
I know you will get a ton of 'Nova fans down again, especially if it's a weekend game. We had probably 6K down there in 2004-05. That game could sell out pretty easily, as could our game up at the Wachovia Center. I bet one of those two games is a Big Monday game on ESPN.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 27, 2006 19:05:50 GMT -5
we only had a 10,000 person attendance this past season will the greater expectations and opponents be enough to bring in 5,000 more people. I sure hope so. I think it's possible but definetly not guaranteed.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 27, 2006 19:24:48 GMT -5
If you're like me and you needed a reference for last year's figures: guhoyas.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2005-2006/teamcume.htmlI did the math (check it if you want--please, I'm SFS! ;D) and our home avg. for the 8 BE games last year was 11,684. If you took the 6 games A.D. (After Duke ) the average was 13,569. This is useful b/c it accounts for the biggest boost in publicity/interest the program has seen in several years, which may/may not carry through to next year. It's also unfair b/c it takes out the Providence and USF games, which were always gonna be the lowest draws (and predictably were). Two factors to consider: 1. Last year wrt home BE games, we played 1 on Tuesday, 1 on Wednesday, 2 on Thursday, 3 on Saturday, and 1 on Sunday. We'll see what the spread looks like this year. 2. When it comes to this year's home BE sked, out are: Providence USF St. John's Rutgers Syracuse Cuse was the top home BE attendance game last year...but the rest were the bottom four. In are: Depaul Marquette UConn Notre Dame Villanova Think those last three might be of interest to both teams' fans?
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 27, 2006 19:26:53 GMT -5
We should shoot for 20k every game. It may sound ambitious, but Washingtonians are notorious frontrunners. And my friends, we will be frontrunning this year. I appreciate the optimism, but twenty years of sunken logs in the December schedule have conditioned Georgetown fans that the season starts in January. While UConn and Villanova will sell, and Pitt and WV might, the December games will invariably drag down average attendance--placing Oregon on a midweek game in November suggests one of those "7,189" crowd numbers. Add to this the likelihood that most of the rumored big non-conference games will be on the road, games like Towson and Winston-Salem State to pull down the averages. Georgetown fans may be a spirited bunch, but their attendance figures across most sports generally fall below expectations, and (men's) basketball is not always immune to this.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 27, 2006 19:54:16 GMT -5
Wow, Georgetown @ St. John's got outdrawn by Georgetown at USF...there's something rotten in the state of Red Storm.
On the plus side, we did attract "JMU's largest home crowd since late during the 2001-02 season." And it showed.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 27, 2006 19:57:35 GMT -5
thanks for pulling up the stats FL i just quickly looked at the home attendance stat and not specifically BE which upon closer look is the actual question being discussed. for the home BE slate i think we can make it to 15,000.
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Post by FLHoya on Jul 27, 2006 20:31:42 GMT -5
Wow, Georgetown @ St. John's got outdrawn by Georgetown at USF...there's something rotten in the state of Red Storm. On the plus side, we did attract "JMU's largest home crowd since late during the 2001-02 season." And it showed. Well heck, the JMU game outdrew USF at GTown, which is a Big East Conference game in a pro arena. For that matter, GU vs. Fairfield outdrew GU vs. USF by 1,500. On a unrelated tangent, since it's related to issues of home attendance of BE schools playing in pro arenas, might as well unveil my Super-Fantastic-Idea for a Hoya Blue road trip. Might as well make use of somebody's NBA arena plight. So I propose: GTown at Seton Hall, Hoya Blue road trip...I say you get together a group like, I dunno... ...THE ENTIRE UNDERGRADUATE CAMPUS. Send out one of those SAC E-mails...or better yet an E-Vite since we actually want people to read it. Get 6,500 undergrads rolling into East Rutherford. Solve The Hall's attendance problem for one night.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Jul 27, 2006 20:47:42 GMT -5
The attendance piece is a tricky one, because many of the same people who want to see higher attendance numbers are the same ones who feel strongly about having an incredibly pro-Georgetown crowd.
One thing that could work to our benefit is, with good marketing, we could draw significant visiting crowds for the JMU game (very sizeable alumni presence in DC), the Towson game (slightly less so), and the Navy game (with all of the military presence in DC, this should be a no-brainer). These games shouldn't suffer much from a large visiting crowd, and it would be great for both the bottom line and the season's attendance averages - especially compared to the typical Coastal Carolina slate.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jul 28, 2006 18:01:26 GMT -5
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YB
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Post by YB on Jul 29, 2006 11:21:29 GMT -5
I think we should shoot for 20k. The crappy games won't draw it, but the real ones could. Why not? If as Hoya fans we are dreaming of winning the National Championship, if the team has that as a goal, then why should we not dream of filling the booth?
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 29, 2006 15:45:05 GMT -5
I think we should shoot for 20k. The crappy games won't draw it, but the real ones could. Why not? If as Hoya fans we are dreaming of winning the National Championship, if the team has that as a goal, then why should we not dream of filling the booth? Love the positive outlook YB. Aim high, but be happy as long as their is perceptible progress. HB is committed to selling out the student section, so student tickets will likely be in pretty high demand, and that means you can expect a near-full student section for most games. The YA section appears to be growing at a veyr healthy rate as well, which bodes well both for this season and future seasons--if we can keep the rate of growth of the YA section very high and also keep the student section permanently filled up, we'll really help to grow the pro-Hoya attendence over the next 6 years or so... I still maintain that the best way to help our attendence issues is to appeal to D.C. residents that are not Georgetown alumni. From what I know, it just seems like too much of our effort to sell tickets is focused on alums. We need to get more in touch with the rest of the D.C. Community. Easier said then done, of course, but if we ever want to sell out MCI center without having 25% or more of the arena be opposing fans, we're going to have to get people who are willing to take the Metro in to MCI that didn't go to Georgetown. Convince people that rather than spend an arm and a leg to watch the Wizards, you can take your family to see basketball played at almost as high a level for a much more affordable price, by players that play with the team concept. The Hoyas have had some success in the past with bringing in non-alumni fans, during Pops best years. We need to get back to that, and keep the student and alumni count high too... basically, we need to put it all together, and if we do, MCI really could turn into a great homecourt for us.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 29, 2006 16:14:10 GMT -5
I still maintain that the best way to help our attendence issues is to appeal to D.C. residents that are not Georgetown alumni. From what I know, it just seems like too much of our effort to sell tickets is focused on alums. We need to get more in touch with the rest of the D.C. Community. I do not get the sense there is a major effort towards reaching D.C. alumni, esp. if they're not in the Hoop Club. Georgetown has not traditionally built consistent lines of communciations with DC alumni, and tend to expect the local alumni club will do the heavy lifting. The negligible alumni attendance for campus sports like football and lacrosse attest to this. Getting in touch with DC residents is fine, but not at the expense of missing the 35,000 local alumni within a half hour of the city. And MCI will never be a great home court. One man's opinion, but the more you see real on-campus facilities, the more you know that MCI is a gilded cage.
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YB
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Post by YB on Jul 30, 2006 22:27:19 GMT -5
I recall that, at Useless Air Arena, PG county residents came in droves to watch Pops' teams. I agree not enough is being done to get these folks back- they were once a big part of our home-court advantage.
I think it's also 45k alums within an hour of MCI (this includes me and AvantGuardHoya, the 1/2 hour stat does not). We can market to them.
You all know my feelings about on-campus arena vs MCI. One is the long-term solution and the other is a temporary band-aid.
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