ncaaball2
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Post by ncaaball2 on Jul 10, 2006 13:03:24 GMT -5
Any new word on Wright? You guys in the driver's seat with this kid? Has he committed yet?
G-Town is just filling up the cupboard. Going to be a beast for the future.
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Post by Nitrorebel on Jul 10, 2006 13:10:15 GMT -5
By most accounts, we are indeed his leader. But for the moment, our 13 '07 schollies are all taken. That may be one of the reasons stopping him from committing. In general though, he's said he wants to hold off after his NC St experience, so a verbal may take some time anyway.
Most people think Jeff Green will leave after this season, which should free up the scholly for Wright. A back-court of Wright and Freeman will be incredible!
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Post by ncaaball2 on Jul 10, 2006 14:39:49 GMT -5
Without trying to cross the line of spreading privileged information gained from other sources, word on the street is Wright to G-Town, and not just as in G-Town is the early leader. No word that the announcement is imminent, but that is the word.
What is the deal with Austin Freeman? I am hearing that the backcourt of Freeman and Wright would project to be among the nation's best for the next few years, but I do not know much about Freeman.
Could be the second year in a row that a non-FB member of the Big East is voted pre-season favorite, and with the recruiting going on at Nova and G-Town, as well as the success Crean is having at Marquette and Bobby Gonzalez's fast start on the scene, things look good for the BB side of the conference.
Now we just need St. John's to get their act together.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 10, 2006 14:57:39 GMT -5
Freeman has been either the leading scorer or MVP of pretty much every camp he's been to this year. I think he lit up Mayo for 30+. Just an amazing scorer. He doesn't get the press others get because he doesn't look as athletic (and probably isn't quite as athletic) and thus doesn't necessarily profile to the gurus as an NBA all-star.
But he's performed as well as any rising senior this summer.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 10, 2006 14:57:58 GMT -5
Don't want to jinx anything concerning Wright. as for Freeman, he has had arguably the best spring and early summer of any 2007 guard. He's been kiling people and is threatening to crack people's top ten list. He's probably the favorite, over Wright, to be the DC area player of the year for next season.
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Post by RDF on Jul 10, 2006 15:43:09 GMT -5
To echo MCI, I don't want to jinx anything on CW's recruitment either, so we'll focus on Freeman--the guy is someone that I've loved as a player since I saw his highlights on Hoops TV 2 years ago. He is efficient and makes game look easy--type of player who has 30 pts, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists and you can't believe he's done that much. He was DESTROYING people at Nike Camp and only Donte Greene was in his league as MVP possiblity. Freeman had to leave early so he missed the All Star Game. Frank Burlison, writer for Fox Sports/West Coast Newspaper said Freeman was so good "if he was on Hoyas team this year instead of playing his SR year at DeMatha, you could punch their ticket to Atlanta for the Final Four". Another player at the Camp said Freeman's the best player there because "He can do anything on court but he's unselfish, plays team ball, and makes others better around him". Freeman is a SPECIAL TALENT and so is Wright and for Hoyas to have shot of landing both in this class has me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I am just greedy and want to add Anthony McClain as well!
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 10, 2006 17:03:18 GMT -5
same here RDF that class would rank up with the hibbert green wallace and TC class
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Post by Nitrorebel on Jul 10, 2006 21:48:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the info NCAA; really appreciate it. Like the others have said, Freeman has been killing them this summer and his entire junior year. Most everyone thinks he would start NOW. I can't wait for him to don the "3" and getting it going in '07. He's the piece we've been missing for years - basically since Page left.
It's great to see the BB schools getting it going. Hope Roberts can continue the trend with the Johnnies. Good luck next season, and you guys have some killer guards coming in in '07. Should be fun.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Jul 11, 2006 12:32:51 GMT -5
just from rankings alone this class will be rated higher.. same here RDF that class would rank up with the hibbert green wallace and TC class
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 11, 2006 14:37:26 GMT -5
well i think the Junior class shows how the rankings aren't everything.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 11, 2006 14:55:29 GMT -5
I don't think that was a reference to rankings. I think it was a reference to how good the class actually turned out.
We get all excited about rankings, and they are somewhat of an indicator. One that should be forgotten the day they show up on campus. I'm not sure the average class of four McD's All-Americans would yield the same benefit as Wallace, Hibbert, Green and Crawford.
Look at Duke's Super Six. Maybe they didn't all deserve to be McD's, but there are SIX of them:
Shelden Williams: If Roy stays four, Shelden will likely have about a year of productivity on him, since Shelden was good from Day One.
JJ Redick: Jeff likely only stays three, and it'd be hard to match his productivity. Jeff is worth a lot to GU, though.
Sean Dockery: Wallace outplayed him last year in their head to head matchup and Dock was a senior. I think by the end of four, Wallace will have the slight edge.
Shavlik Randolph: Bench fodder and barely passable. I leave this one blank.
Michael Thompson: No value added to Duke. Or Northwestern.
Lee Melchionni: I see Tyler's career as likely being like Melch. He's great in practices and weight room (better than Melch, probably). Melch played a lot because he had to -- he wasn't that good. I think Tyler's will come out better.
So my point is not that McD's AAs are not good, but rather we got a VERY special class as a last gift from Craig. They work hard, they aren't egotistical and they are very good. And we cannot expect our higher rated classes to be better or even as good as soon. Virtually no one is as ready for college as Jeff Green was.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Jul 11, 2006 16:17:06 GMT -5
agreed SF great points made
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Post by prhoya on Jul 11, 2006 23:34:21 GMT -5
So my point is not that McD's AAs are not good, but rather we got a VERY special class as a last gift from Craig. They work hard, they aren't egotistical and they are very good. And we cannot expect our higher rated classes to be better or even as good as soon. Virtually no one is as ready for college as Jeff Green was. Esh had nothing to do with Wallace coming to GU. On second thought, he did. If he was still the coach, Wallace wouldn't be playing for GU. As for Green, wasn't he a late commitment? I don't know about Roy or Tyler.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 12, 2006 2:24:24 GMT -5
Roy committed when he was a sophomore. Esherick was the coach. Jeff committed in the Fall of Esherick's last year, but in time to sign an LOI in the fall. He committed to Esherick. Tyler committed in late Summer of that year. He committed to Esherick. Cornelio committed in between Jeff and Tyler, I think. Or maybe after Jeff. That was a miss, but you can't be right on everyone. Interestingly, if Esherick hadn't been looking desperately for immediate size, the class may have also included Shan Foster, who is pretty talented.
Wallace was a III recruit, and yes Esherick was a bad coach.
But that was you picked out of long post about how talented the class was? A chance to take yet another bash at Esherick? Let it go.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 12, 2006 8:52:05 GMT -5
To let it go, and discussing Esh's lack of coaching abilities, etc..., was one of my New Year's resoultions for this Board (check post around that time). It was more you giving credit where credit is not due.
Wallace was not an Esh signee.
I seem to remember from discussions on this board that Jeff signed around the time Esh was out (or close to out) the door. Maybe someone can look back at the exact date of his signing to setle this.
I trust you on Roy.
Tyler still has to proof himself on the floor. We all know he's a spirit and practice leader. How important is he? Still to be determined. I hope he steps up his contribution on the floor a la Melch for his two remaining season. Melch had 7.7 ppg and 5.7 ppg his last two seasons, and that was playing with ballhawker JJR. I hope Tyler averages at least 6 points pg.
Who's Cornelio? ;D
BTW, nice post regarding the comparisons, although I don't agree with some.
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 12, 2006 9:18:39 GMT -5
Jeff signed with Esherick. Whatever else you want to argue, this isn't debatable. Honestly, had Jeff not gotten his test score and prepped for a year, he probably wouldn't be at Georgetown regardless of who the coach was. There wouldn't have been a high major on the east coast that wouldn't have been beating down his door, and we still a major question mark, even with JTIII.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Jul 12, 2006 9:53:22 GMT -5
Just to echo SF and NYC, Jeff was most certainly an Esh recruit. JTIII brought in Wallace, the rest of that class was from Esh (as well as laying the groundwork for at least a couple of the next class' players: Egerson & Sapp, I believe).
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 12, 2006 10:10:55 GMT -5
CO and NYC are correct about Jeff, Roy, Wallace, Tyler, Sapp, and Egerson. Esh gave JTIII good players - no one can deny that - but JTIII is upgrading the quality of the recruits and getting more out of the players he started out with - I don't think anyone can deny that either.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Jul 12, 2006 12:55:15 GMT -5
CO and NYC are correct about Jeff, Roy, Wallace, Tyler, Sapp, and Egerson. Esh gave JTIII good players - no one can deny that - but JTIII is upgrading the quality of the recruits and getting more out of the players he started out with - I don't think anyone can deny that either. ahh, you included Wallace in the list again, Esh didnt give JT III Wallace, haha. I've also never heard anything about there being a connection between Esh and Sapp/Egerson, I seriously doubt he had much if any role in those players signing with GU. There is no doubt however that Jeff, Roy, Tyler and Cornelio were all Esh's recruits, and I completely agree with the rest of your post.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Jul 12, 2006 13:34:47 GMT -5
Dude, he said they were correct, and in being correct, CO said that III brought in Wallace.
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