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Post by Gerron48 on Apr 22, 2004 11:31:30 GMT -5
It is probably another two years before JT3 will be able to get a top recruiting class. With the exception of JC players and the few unknown players who haven't signed, everyone else is signed for this years. This years juniors--seniors to be-- have narrowed the list on the school they are interested in playing, I'm sure G'town is not on the list of many of the top 100. Even if G'town were to have a decent year next year, JT3 hasn't established relationships with current juniors long enough to pry them awat from their current list of schools. Patino and Calipari have been at Louisville and Memphis three - four years and they are just beginning to land McDonald'd All- American cailber players. JT3 is not as well known, amongst the high players at least, so it will be harder. It will be the 2006 - 2007 season before he may have a shot at the top players.
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Post by RDF on Apr 22, 2004 13:10:50 GMT -5
It is probably another two years before JT3 will be able to get a top recruiting class. With the exception of JC players and the few unknown players who haven't signed, everyone else is signed for this years. This years juniors--seniors to be-- have narrowed the list on the school they are interested in playing, I'm sure G'town is not on the list of many of the top 100. Even if G'town were to have a decent year next year, JT3 hasn't established relationships with current juniors long enough to pry them awat from their current list of schools. Patino and Calipari have been at Louisville and Memphis three - four years and they are just beginning to land McDonald'd All- American cailber players. JT3 is not as well known, amongst the high players at least, so it will be harder. It will be the 2006 - 2007 season before he may have a shot at the top players. I completely disagree. GU has been recruiting well in the JR class and most kids with lists at this time are where they would "prefer" to go, not where they will end up--due to lack of interest, other kids committing, etc.... Another thing to take into account is that some kids who had interest in Hoyas were waiting to see who GU hired. Now that has happened, you'll see some decide to put GU back on their list, some won't. That's recruiting. McDonald's All Americans are nice to have, but give me a program of kids who are mainly comprised of 4 year players and then possibly target that "difference maker" once you have the TEAM/PROGRAM in place. Getting a star player surrounded by average talent doesn't get it done--see Zo's SR year at GU. Some of the kids that are interested in GU and would be good fits are: -Paul Johnson -Jose Garcia -Tyrell Biggs--SJU will be tough to beat now with Roberts as their coach -Eric Boateng -Theo Davis -Andre McGee -Abdul Herrera -Andray Blatche -Sam Young--going to Prep School -Justin Thornton -Alfred Aboya That's not a bad list of talent to start with. JT III is already on the road making visits to meet with kids and he'll be able to see if they are going to be interested/ move on to someone else. But it's much better group of guys to begin with than GU has had in a couple of seasons and that is due to the nice work done by Esherick, Driesell, and Jaren Jackson. They deserve credit for this and for the good group of kids coming in next year. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 31, 2005 9:16:00 GMT -5
Just wanted to bring back this old thread. Note that Thornton was the only one mentioned who we actually got. I am happy with our class but all the hype around players early on is too tough to decipher when it comes to talent evaluation and where the kid is actually going to end up. Look at JamesOn Curry, things happen.
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Post by hoyanitty on Mar 31, 2005 9:50:15 GMT -5
what is this guy talking about blatch is going to the nba and aboya is at ucla
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Post by Filthyhoya on Mar 31, 2005 9:58:40 GMT -5
Look at the date of RDF'S post hoyanitty. It was from last year when we didn't know where these kids would end up.
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Post by the_way on Mar 31, 2005 10:35:05 GMT -5
Its going take 2-3 good solid recruiting classes to be established as a consistently good program again. I wouldn't get too caught up in the names. A good recruiter doesn't just look at press clippings, because a lot of times those press-clippings are wrong. I think JTII has a solid class coming in even though they are guard/wing heavy. I think in his next recruiting class he will focus more on big men.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 31, 2005 11:02:26 GMT -5
Our recruiting will be fine. JTIII will come through for us.
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Post by the_way on Mar 31, 2005 11:03:43 GMT -5
Our recruiting will be fine. JTIII will come through for us. Exactly |
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 31, 2005 13:12:08 GMT -5
I waited to form an opinion of JTIII as a coach until I saw him in action. Now that he's proven he can turn a team around and get the most out of players (especially in a new system) I'll praise him for his coaching ability.
I'm very interested in the freshmen coming in next year. They sound good, but I haven't seen a single one play yet. When I see them play well, I'll jump on board and praise JTIII for his recruiting abilities.
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Post by bowmansbruzers on Mar 31, 2005 13:14:21 GMT -5
Who ever said that we need big time players to come in from recruiting. I mean look at Jeff being recruited by Esh. He was not even ranked in the top 150 last year on rivals.com. It is just what we see in the players not what everyone else sees in them. Anyways, a top 20 player coming out of high school is going to want to remain the star and want the ball and score every possession and as everyone knows, thats not wat our offense is about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2005 22:51:38 GMT -5
I do agree with RDF's (old) post, however. I'll take a team of four year "system" players any day of the week. Look at 'Nova, West Virginia... its the reason mid-majors do so well these days. Yeah scholarship limits have leveled the field somewhat, but teams get better the more they play together, plain and simple. Of course, a superstar who plays MOST of 4 years thrown in there would be nice, but guys who stick around, become one with the system, form on (and presumably off) court relationships, etc. are just fine by me. Imagine that team the year after we went to the Sweet 16 with Sweets - if all those guys had been working in this system, were comfortable with each other... woulda been nasty.
I want guys with passion who play hard, are fundamentally strong and buy into the system. Makes for winning basketball year in and year out.
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Post by Gtown4Life on Apr 1, 2005 9:13:28 GMT -5
jessie sapp is going to be a stud in college...you guys just wait and see. I saw him play with his AAU team in NYC last year and he looked very athletic and he had a couple big dunks and made some nice mid range jumpers.
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 1, 2005 10:06:38 GMT -5
I do agree with RDF's (old) post, however. I'll take a team of four year "system" players any day of the week. Look at 'Nova, West Virginia... its the reason mid-majors do so well these days. Yeah scholarship limits have leveled the field somewhat, but teams get better the more they play together, plain and simple. Of course, a superstar who plays MOST of 4 years thrown in there would be nice, but guys who stick around, become one with the system, form on (and presumably off) court relationships, etc. are just fine by me. Imagine that team the year after we went to the Sweet 16 with Sweets - if all those guys had been working in this system, were comfortable with each other... woulda been nasty. I want guys with passion who play hard, are fundamentally strong and buy into the system. Makes for winning basketball year in and year out. I agree, but let's not forget the "four year" Nova guys were regarded as the best recruiting class in the country when they were freshmen...those guys were all top 100 (if not higher) recruits. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2005 12:20:14 GMT -5
jessie sapp is going to be a stud in college...you guys just wait and see. I saw him play with his AAU team in NYC last year and he looked very athletic and he had a couple big dunks and made some nice mid range jumpers. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I hope you're right. We've had plenty of highly touted guys come in and be just plain average. I won't name names... "I'm not here to talk about the past." Here's to Sapp tearing it up. And Cambridge - you're dead on. But whether or not we have the best class in the nation in the future or that 'Nova team was at that time, the fact is they've all stayed, they all play their roles, are "slaves" to the system, and so on. I'll take that any day over a revolving door. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 1, 2005 12:23:58 GMT -5
I agree, but let's not forget the "four year" Nova guys were regarded as the best recruiting class in the country when they were freshmen...those guys were all top 100 (if not higher) recruits. Fraser: 5t Sumpter: 42 Ray: 39 Foye: 56 Third best class in the country, behind the Duke Super 6 and UNC's junior class. |
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