GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 6, 2006 19:20:45 GMT -5
Might be my anti-freshman bias, but I saw his handle as "wants to be a wing." And he will be, but I don't think he's there yet. He doesn't look completely in control with his handle and he can get away with it at this level since he seemed to clear space with his body. But next year, I'm not so sure. I'd like him to selectively drive but putting him on the wing might be a turnover waiting to happen. His size will allow him to play 4 and his shot will allow him to play anywhere. But as a full-time wing I'm skeptical.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 6, 2006 19:46:55 GMT -5
I don't think he's a full time wing yet, just saying that he has some serious face up skills.
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gujake
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Post by gujake on Apr 7, 2006 0:09:57 GMT -5
The other game available at that site is very telling about his handle Giga. He took the PG responsibilites for much of the game to break the press. You are right that he is not fully there yet, but he is absolutely going to play the wing imo.
His D was better, but not terrific. He kinda just got by based on his height and athleticism, nobody really challenged him much. His rebounding was defenetely much better. Very impressive on offense again, showcases his outside range even more.
I don't think the "poor man's Jeff Green" is a very good comparison.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 7, 2006 14:18:22 GMT -5
He has a better handle than Bowman by far. He's going to be able to do some things here with his body and his skills
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Apr 7, 2006 14:29:37 GMT -5
jeff and summers might have comparing games in the box score but summer plays to get to the rim jeff has all the confidence in his shot to play outside more
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 7, 2006 14:50:24 GMT -5
He has a better handle than Bowman by far. He's going to be able to do some things here with his body and his skills Now that's definitely true. You know, that statement made me think about just how much better this frontcourt is. I think every one of our options at 3 and 4 will be less turnover-prone than Brandon.
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DrumsGoBang
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Post by DrumsGoBang on Apr 7, 2006 15:26:17 GMT -5
Sounds like a good replacement or upgrade for DJ the first few years. I wonder if he is has mastered the backdoor cut yet.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2006 17:38:56 GMT -5
I think our freshman are going to turn out better than anyone predicted. Vernon's gotten some hype and it's definetly deserved. Summers is a phenomenal player and will contribute more than people had earlier expected. I also think rivers is goign to be a much more valuable asset then had been previously thought. the future is bright.
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butler
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Post by butler on Apr 7, 2006 18:27:19 GMT -5
Summers is definately a wing, but is really a big kid. I think he will be very Bowman like next year, but that's him as a Freshman compared with Bowman as a Sr. He'll be a great one before it's all said and done. Our front court will be scary next year. How far this team goes all depends on the backcourt.
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HoyaSpirit
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Post by HoyaSpirit on Apr 7, 2006 19:01:48 GMT -5
If he can bury the 3 and drive on his guy, and post up if needed, do you think we can ever mismatch versus opponents and put him at the 2, with pe jr at the 3, green at the 4 and roy or mac at the 5 - that would be an ill lineup for mismatches and for rebounding.
it would also be a way to find more playing time for him (as well as for pe jr and mac - since it would free up minutes at the 3 and 4 spots).
he could shoot over just about any 2 in college hoops
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Apr 7, 2006 19:21:34 GMT -5
Alright, alright, alright let's slow down on Summers. We're officially off the rails with him playing two-guard. He's going to have to improve on D to guard quick threes much less twos.
Let's just say he's extremely talented and has good all-around skills especially for his size.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 7, 2006 19:26:18 GMT -5
That's a good point about "good skills for his size." At times, he does look like a guard with the ball, but, at other times, he looks like BB with the ball. By that, I mean he does still look shaky at times with the rock, but you can see his potential.
I just watched the game against Potomac, and he is a fun guy to watch. He has a very good face up game when McDonogh can settle into the half-court.
Still, I don't see him starting over Ewing simply because Summers appears to have trouble finishing. He misses his share of layups, and those misses would be dunks for Ewing.
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butler
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Post by butler on Apr 7, 2006 21:11:21 GMT -5
Did he miss lay ups in the real game film as well? I saw the misses in the all stat game (although his moves to even get to the tin were sick, esp. the first,).
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 7, 2006 21:12:14 GMT -5
He did miss layups in the game film.
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butler
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Post by butler on Apr 7, 2006 21:22:51 GMT -5
Sounds like a vintage '90s Hoya then...
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 7, 2006 21:35:25 GMT -5
We as a team are way more skilled than our vintage Hoyas teams of the 90's. That doesn't include the 96 Iverson team though.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 7, 2006 22:09:37 GMT -5
People have been floating the idea of him playing 2 for a while now, but it isn't going to happen, at least not this season, barring some big improvements in the near future. Being a shooting guard involved more than just scoring from the perimeter. You need to be able to handle the ball too--every team needs to have at least 2 ballhandlers on the court at a time otherwise will get pressed to hell. DaJuan does not have that sort of ballhandling skill for now. Hopefully he acquires it during his time here, because it will do wonders for his professional prospects, but he's not there yet and I doubt he's there by November or even March, frankly.
I still think he'll be in the mix to start though. I haven't seen much of Ewing to know. But I think saying that DaJuan's missed layups would be Ewing dunks is an oversimplification. That assumes that the two are equal in all other facets, which I really don't think they are. Pat is not a perimeter-oriented players, not a shooter, from what I've heard. I also think it's tough to say that Ewing automatically makes them. He can definitely finish, but DaJuan is a pretty good dunker himself. No way to say those are certain Ewing dunks, IMO.
DaJuan as a starter would be something we're much more familiar with. His game is somewhere between Jeff and Brandon, closer to Jeff, IMO. But his style is not something we're unused to. Ewing however, is a whole different story. His game is not something we've had under Thompson, so itd be interesting to see how that worked out.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 7, 2006 23:56:46 GMT -5
I agree with RB on the SG issue. Dajuan is not there right now and probably won't be by October.
I would be SHOCKED if Summers starts ahead of Ewing. This is not to say that Summers is bad because he isn't. In fact, I'd take him ahead of Bowman, which is not a knock on Bowman. Summers has a very good perimeter game for someone of his size and shows some savvy in terms of setting himself up for mid-range shots. His shot looks great and is technically sound.
Thing is that Ewing is a good shooter, which most don't realize. MCI might still have his numbers from over the summer, but IIRC, Ewing was one of the best shooters from behind the arc in the KL. He's also very reliable from 10-15 range. There was only one game that I can remember where he was truly off, and I think it happened when he was in foul trouble.
The dunking issue will be clear once the season gets going. Ewing has a nose for the rim unlike anyone on the team and brings it. He's the most impressive leaper to wear a GU uniform in several years. I remember one occasion where he almost threw down a foul line dunk on James Gist, who is a decent athlete himself (but not much by way of a basketball player). Were it not for a slap on Ewing's arm, we would have our first ever Kenner League poster.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 8, 2006 1:21:05 GMT -5
Will take your word for it, but still think that there are only 2 guaranteed starters in the frontcourt. Both Macklin and DaJuan have a chance to beat out Ewing, though the odds may be long.
Personally I think Ewing, Macklin and Rivers off the bench for DaJuan, Roy, and Jon would be pretty sweet and would give a huge infusion of energy. But if Ewing is as good as advertised obviously they won't sit him at the start. I hope he is.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 8, 2006 1:23:08 GMT -5
Wow! You're so up on PE2 that you're getting everyone excited. I hope you're right.
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