SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 21, 2006 16:30:25 GMT -5
Out of Conference: Root for the BE. In Conference: Root for the "Basketball" schools. NCAA Tourney, First Weekend: Root for the BE. NCAA Tourney, 2nd and 3rd Weekend: That's far enough, now lose.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 21, 2006 16:40:38 GMT -5
If we want to say we play in the best conference in America, then we need our fellow BE teams to win... especially in the NCAA tournament. So we should pull for them all the time.
However, it is quite understandable if we can't always follow that high-minded principle ... like when faced with a Syracuse game. So exceptions are allowed! ;D
or to put it another way, I think a LOT of Big East fans were Hoya fans the day we defeated DUKE!
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FOTP
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Post by FOTP on Mar 21, 2006 16:50:13 GMT -5
I'm perfectly fine if people just hate other Big East schools. I hate Cuse and UCONN et all like the best of them.
However, for many reasons I lightly root for Big East schools in the NCAAs. It's good for the league to be considered the best and that is defined by how well you do in the dance. Look at the carnage in the Big Ten (the so called #1 RPI conference).
Plus, I want to go through all of the big east to win the whole thing. Bring on Nova...then UCONN and then let's finish it off against West Virginia. NO brainer.
Plus, we make more money the further the schools get...little known fact, but for each round you go the conference gets more money to split up amongst the rest of the league...good for our bottom line.
So it makes sense on many levels...
Go Hoyas!
I just don;t understand how people could rather play Benedict College...under no circumstances can you root for them. None.
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JPM32
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Post by JPM32 on Mar 21, 2006 16:55:37 GMT -5
I root for every Big East team in the Big Dance or when they are playing a marquee nonconference game in the regular season.
Every Big East team, that is, except for Syracuse.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 21, 2006 17:00:52 GMT -5
I want the teams to win to help our RPI/prestige, but can't necessarily bring myself to root for them. For instance, earlier in the year, I remember watching UConn playing in Maui, rooting against them, and then after the game exhaling a sigh of relief and saying, "Good, they won. That's better for us."
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miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Mar 21, 2006 17:04:14 GMT -5
I can't generalize it by saying i ALWAYS root for BE teams or NEVER root for BE teams..its more of case by case situation, that also depends on who they are playing.
I will never root for Syracuse...regardless of who they are playing. This is the only team that would make me cheer for GW if they played.
I tend to feel the same way bout West Virginia...just have an extreme distaste toward that team and can't stand anything that brings their fans joy.
As far as UConn and Nova..at this present juncutre i feel kind of indifferent. I dont hate them and if its them vs. a powerhouse from another conference (i.e. Duke, Ohio St, Texas) i would root for them. Yet I enjoy the cinderallas stories so at this point I wouldnt mind seeing a cinderalla team beat them (although its kind of too late for that).
Seton Hall, Marquette (i've liked them recently cuz of D.Wade), Cincinatti, Lousiville, Notre Dame, St. Johns, Providence, Depaul, Rutgers, and even Pitt I do root for because its good for the conference. That's unless they are playing the 'Canes, UCLA, or even the gators (living in florida where the other college teams sux you kind of adopt them come March Madness...but make no mistake, my loyalty lies solely with the Hoyas this Friday).
Finally comes USF...indifference has instead turned in utter hate toward that institution after I undertook a three hour drive to watch the Hoyas finish off their season with a victory, and instead had to put up with a terrible performance in front of terrible fans, in a terrible arena in a terrible city.
GO HOYAS! CHOMP ON THE GATORS!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 21, 2006 17:07:44 GMT -5
I would love to see a Gtown, UConn, WVU, whoever else final four. You've got to cheer on the big east as it improves are visibility and shuts up the ACC people.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 21, 2006 17:45:05 GMT -5
Out of Conference: Root for the BE. In Conference: Root for the "Basketball" schools. NCAA Tourney, First Weekend: Root for the BE. NCAA Tourney, 2nd and 3rd Weekend: That's far enough, now lose. Pretty much agree, though I don't necessarily mind seeing other schools go further if it happens. Personally, I just struggling to hold the grudges that some of you do. Yes, Syracuse beat us in the BET and they are a rival, but I don't know, once the game ends and I sleep on it, I just sort of shake it off and life goes on. And until we play again, they can win all their games for all I care. I feel the same way about WVU. Their fans annoyed the crap out of me the last 2 years at MCI, but after the games over, it's over, and when Mike Gansey and Jim Beilein and whoever else start winning tournament games, I look at it as whether I should root for them or not, not whether I should root for their fans or not. I don't usually feel that vindictive feeling like some, that is "well fans of Team X are a-holes, so I want team X to lose so that their fans have to shut up." It also amazes me sometimes that people still hate Nova from 21 years ago. It's a different era! It's like when some people still hate Georgetown because they didn't like Coach Thompson in the 80's.... welcome to the 21st century! So in sum, yea, I tend to root for whatever is best for Georgetown, because they're my team and that's what matters most. If it benefits Georgetown, it's a good thing, even if it makes some other "rival" happy. Thus root for anyone in the conference during out of conference games... Root for the Catholic schools in conference, and root extra hard for them in the tourney if they make it. And root for the other BE schools in the tourney too.
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HoyaChris
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 21, 2006 17:49:00 GMT -5
I always root for the Big East out of conference - even Syracuse as they threw away the 1987 NCAA final - and we had beat them three times that year. In conference, my optimal standings would be
Hoyas 16-0 Everybody else except 'cuse 8-8 Syracuse 0-16
All Big East teams would be undefeated out of conference at 11-0. Consequently, we would have fourteen teams with 19-8 records (before the BE tournament) and the conference would have 15 teams in the NCAA despite the fact that three of our 8-8 teams would not have qualified for the Big East tournament (think of the tiebreaker procedure). Syracuse would not receive an NCAA invite due to their overall 11-16 record.
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on Mar 21, 2006 17:58:48 GMT -5
My rooting (CBB edition):
1. Georgetown (nuff said)
2. Marquette (Family thing, team of my youth, go Warriors)
3. Notre Dame (My Law School and childhood CFB team, rooted for to a much lesser degree)
After that I don't root for anyone, but hope that things fall in the way that is most beneficial to Georgetown.
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tgo
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Post by tgo on Mar 21, 2006 18:36:55 GMT -5
optimal standings Hoyas 16-0 Everybody else except 'cuse 8-8 Syracuse 0-16 All Big East teams would be undefeated out of conference at 11-0. Consequently, we would have fourteen teams with 19-8 records (before the BE tournament) and the conference would have 15 teams in the NCAA despite the fact that three of our 8-8 teams would not have qualified for the Big East tournament (think of the tiebreaker procedure). Syracuse would not receive an NCAA invite due to their overall 11-16 record. Perfect year, cant get any better than that. on thursday at the BET we were faced with who do we root for Hitler (uconn) or Stalin (cuse). over the long term, stalin was more devastating and inflicted his damage upon his own people- cuse has been a thorn in our side much longer, back in the day uconn was always out on the first day of the BET. but Hitler was more dangerous in the short term and i would rather grind it out with a weaker stalin than go toe to toe with hitler. most that i spoke to chose stalin but when they made a big play and i stared to feel happy, thousands of orange clad neanderthals jumped up and down and i started to feel physically ill. i partially blame myself for the lose to stalin on friday since i think me and other hoya fans rooting for them the day before angered the gods in some unforseen way.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 21, 2006 19:32:17 GMT -5
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 21, 2006 19:46:20 GMT -5
i partially blame myself for the lose to stalin on friday since i think me and other hoya fans rooting for them the day before angered the gods in some unforseen way. you are not alone brother. i had that exact conversation over too many guinesses to count that night after i evacuated the garden.
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HoyaSC
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Post by HoyaSC on Mar 21, 2006 19:57:25 GMT -5
I live in ACC country and have to hear about them all the time, so that tends to make me pull for Big East teams whenever possible.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 21, 2006 20:57:22 GMT -5
LMAO at the idea of 15 Big East teams in the Dance. Great post, HoyaChris. I would add, though, that it wouldn't bother me to change your scenario slightly, and have Syracuse lose all of their OOC games, as well. Syracuse at 0-27 has a nice ring to it!
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Post by StoneColdHoya on Mar 21, 2006 21:28:13 GMT -5
Under no circumstances do I root for Syracuse. If it's Boeheim against Satan and his minions, I'll be wearing red horns with a pitchfork in my hand rooting for Satan.
Have to root for Rutgers and Seton Hall to do well, but not against us -- family thing. Usually it's not that big a deal, b/c they're not very good.
I root for the rest of the BE to the extent that I think it makes us look better. I think the BE getting three teams into the Final Four this year would make us look better, esp if we're one of the three. When the BE wins tough out-of-conference games, it makes us all look better by raising the conference RPI. Sometimes, though, I may not be rooting for the BE team. For example, if Vandy had played Louisville this year, I would have rooted for Vandy to win that game, because them winning that hypothetical matchup would have made us look better. So...I guess I don't root for the other teams, per se. I root for whatever outcome will be better for Georgetown.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2006 21:34:40 GMT -5
I'll root for the BE in every game where G'Town isn't the opponent...
... unless SU-cks is involved. Will never... under any circumstances... EVER... root for those jerks.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Mar 21, 2006 21:37:00 GMT -5
It also amazes me sometimes that people still hate Nova from 21 years ago. It's a different era! It's like when some people still hate Georgetown because they didn't like Coach Thompson in the 80's.... welcome to the 21st century! Yikes! Tradition and history do come into play (none of the current staff or players were at GU when I was there, but I still root for them and love to follow them.) Think about the worst Hoya loss you witnessed and multiply it by, oh, maybe 4 billion times, and then see if you can just live and let live... I will forget about the '85 'Nova loss when they stop playing highlights of it every time we play 'Nova and every time they show clips of great tournament games. And, when everyone from 'Nova stops reminding me about it, even though it happened 21 years ago. A bit more seriously, I am not THAT scarred and it is all in good fun (we are only talking about rooting for basketball teams, after all), but your response is pretty surprising to me since it is basically minimizing the history and tradition associated with rooting for your team. I know rivalries change (heck, we couldn't have cared less about UMCP or GW back in the 80s), but, personally, I think recognizing the history and traditional rivalries makes the entire experience more fun.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 21, 2006 21:46:51 GMT -5
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geedell
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Post by geedell on Mar 21, 2006 22:37:59 GMT -5
I find it very difficult to root for You Connvicts and SU cks
I root for any other BE school in an OOC game
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