Morrison v. Redick

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This is the first time I've seen Morrison for an extended period of time since the "instant classic" Michigan State game. I really like his game: good outside shooter, can create his own shot to a certain extent, decent inside game when he gets a mismatch...

... but I'm still more impressed by Redick. Say what you will about the guy, but there are so many times watching this kid where I can't believe what I'm seeing, coupled with the fact he seems to play BETTER when teams are mugging him and their fans are more on him than white on rice. I like his toughness a bit more, too.

My sample size for Redick is much greater so I could be completely wrong about this, but Morrison doesn't seem to look to take it hard to the hole when the situation presents itself or when it could be beneficial for the team. Conversely, that's partially Redick's bread-and-butter. Morrison reminds me of that guy you play pick-up games with who has a good shot, but just kind of hangs around and waits for a shot rather than getting down and dirty... which is the only way playground games should be played. He's also disappeared this whole second half against Stanford. Not the kind of thing we're used to seeing Redick do in tight, tough games.

Of course, this could all be caused by the distraction I'm finding Morrison's I'm-just-starting-to-go-through-puberty-moustache to be. Good god he's ugly.

[bawlmerhoya]

The diabetic thing troubles me. I really feel for Morrison, but some NBA club has to put their future in his hands. I wonder if his condition will hurt his draft status.

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bawlmerhoya said:

The diabetic thing troubles me. I really feel for Morrison, but some NBA club has to put their future in his hands. I wonder if his condition will hurt his draft status.

I agree. And I feel bad if it does, but considering Eddie Curry has a jobby-job despite a heart condition, I would think Morrison will have no trouble getting a well paid position in "The Association."

Vitale has to lay off the Morrison-Bird comparisons. The more I hear people make that comparison, the more I think that ESPN Page 2 article made the correct point that it's one based solely on race. But that's not what this thread is about, so don't hijack it, you chumps... you know who you are...

[williambraskyiii]

I am in the midst of a discussion with my roommates regarding how good Redick will be as a pro...I am changing my mind about his ability to matchup against taller, longer, more athletic NBA players...what are the thoughts of other board members?

I mean - who is his mold in the NBA? Easy to say Steve Kerr, but Redick allegedly has three more inches on him and he seems to have more of a game than a spot-up three-point shooter. I am really interested to see how his game progresses in the NBA.

[MCIGuy]

Redick has moved ahead thanks to his play these last four weeks. Right now for POY I have to give my vote to JJ. But I would still take Morrison as a pro over him.

[daytonahoya31]

Buffalo, sorry to bother you, but Morrison didn't "disappear" in the second half. In fact, he scored the final 13 points for the zags, including some dagger threes. He's a beast. No doubt about it.
That being said, Redick is making a case for himself as the best player duke has ever had. Better than Laettner. Better than Hill. Better than Dawkins. He does things you just don't see. That 40 footer he hit against Maryland was off the hook. Then he pulled up for three twice on the fastbreak. The second time he did it one on two with nobody to rebound the basketball if he missed.
He didn't miss.
Redick has to be POY. But, I'll take Morrison as a pro. I just didn't want there to be a misconception on this board that Morrison disappeared. He clearly didn't.

[theEDGEfactor]

truly do think that morrison is the POY- without morrison this team wouldnt even be ranked in the top 50- along with this morrison pretty much averages more than redick in almost evry major category- the thing with morrison is that he just doesnt score, but he boards, steals, blocks, and passes-- with redick he only scores and has a one-dimensional game...also with the diabetes espn has a huge writeup on it idk if you saw it and he said hes had it completely under control and it will cause no troubles

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daytonahoya31 said:

I just didn't want there to be a misconception on this board that Morrison disappeared. He clearly didn't.

Daytona, SO sorry to bother you, but do me a favor and take a look at WHEN I posted. You'll notice it was at a time when Morrison had gone 8 minutes or so without a bucket. That, my friend, is disappearing.

That said, yes... he turned it back on at the tail end of the half.

[daytonahoya31]

Buffalo, LOL! I know Dog. I know. But if you make the post, you have to UPDATE the post. There could be less educated people on the board who would start rumors.
We wouldn't want that now would we?
Edge, while I agree that Morrison is the better overall player, there isn't anyone in the collegiate game right now that strikes more fear than Redick. I know that we could stop Morrison if we played them. I knew we couldn't stop redick. That's the difference. Redick is carrying Duke.
Also, Gonzaga's supporting cast isn't that bad. Take away Morrison, I bet they still are a top 25 team. Without Morrison, they still have one of the top 10 big men in the country in Batista, and a very good point guard in Ravio.

[SFHoya99]

Can I take (C) someone who plays offense AND defense?

Whatever the announcers say about Redick being Duke's top perimeter defender is a joke. When I rewatched the Duke game, it was laughable how often he was out of position, and even worse how many times he was simply lazy.

[Highsmith]

buffalohoya said:

bawlmerhoya said:

The diabetic thing troubles me. I really feel for Morrison, but some NBA club has to put their future in his hands. I wonder if his condition will hurt his draft status.

I agree. And I feel bad if it does, but considering Eddie Curry has a jobby-job despite a heart condition, I would think Morrison will have no trouble getting a well paid position in "The Association."

Vitale has to lay off the Morrison-Bird comparisons. The more I hear people make that comparison, the more I think that ESPN Page 2 article made the correct point that it's one based solely on race. But that's not what this thread is about, so don't hijack it, you chumps... you know who you are...

Don't worry-I'm not going to mention anything about race, but I do see some comparisons between Morrison and Bird- I don't understand why some people toss that comparison aside as if it is completely unfounded. Maybe people are looking at it as making the comparison is saying Morrison is/will be at Bird's level as a player in college and the NBA......that is not where I see the comparison being made. When you look at certain aspects of their game, especially combined with the perception of their level of athleticism, there is a definite comparison. They both seem slower and less athletic than many other people out on the floor......however, they also both seem to be able to get off their shot from pretty much anywhere on the floor and be deadly accurate with it no matter where they are. Does Morrison pass and share the ball like Bird? No. However, they are two guys who are the same size, have the same aura of "non-athleticism" about them, and are similarly successful in pretty much scoring anytime and from anywhere. When Morrison starts making a move with the ball, he looks slow and awkward at times and I always find myself saying, "No way he will be able to score on this guy"......next thing I know, it's 2 (or 3) more points on the board for him. I always thought the same thing while watching Bird, but he always had the same result. Larry Bird is one of the greatest players ever.....period (and I used to hate him as a 76ers fan) and no one is saying Morrison is at that level. However, to say there are no comparisons between the two seems to also be saying you haven't watched both of them play.

[Hoya50]

i caught the gonzaga game last night as well and was really impressed with morrison. also saw most of the maryland game - did anyone see the 30 footer redick made without blinking. pretty impressive.

choosing between the 2 would depend on the makeup of my team. i think redick can make a good team an elite team. morrison can be a little more of a focal point in the offense. either way, these are elite scorers.

by the way, i love the video of morrison punching himself in the head during some game this season. i'm not sure which game it was.

[NCHoya]

I know it may not be fair but I just cannot justify giving Morrison so much props when he plays 16 games against a very down WCC. I know he steps up in big games, but I would like to see him compete more against major competition.

That said, I saw both Reddick's and Morrison's games last night and although I like Morrison all around game more, you just cannot beat Reddick's killer instinct and mental toughness on his shot. I am not sure who to liken Reddick to, he is shorter than Reggie Miller but his game is very comparable. He has that killer instinct, the constant running his man off screens, and his defense is very average. I think he has more width than Miller which gives him a chance to drive more to the basket, but the shot making is identical. Right now, if I am down 2 or 3, I want Reddick (not Morrison) to take the shot, to me that defines who the POY is this season.

If I am an NBA GM in the West, I take Morrison because he can do more things on the court, but if I have a team that needs offense (likely in the East), I want Reddick. Even with his questionable defense, he would surely outscore his opposing player and he would give it all on the court in the process.

[JimmyHoya]

I like how Reddick doesn't need more than one foot set now to get his shot off when he flies off some of these screens. Unbelieveable. He's the only player in america I am constantly going "How the F did that go in" when he shoots. Sorry, I'm a homer, but he's really good.

[ephoya04]

I would say Redick is a poor man's Michael Redd