coach thompson 3 and hoyas ncaa chances?

[jctnhoya4ever]

is this team a ncaa team this year? or are we expecting to much out of them to go to the ncaas this year? this is a tough league with the new 16 teams ,i think that this years team can be a ncaa team,but it is going to be tough with the quality of the league this year.that said if hoyas do not make it is it a bad year? i think coach is doing a great job in just his 2 year he is recruting well and i think the program is going the right direction.but we still lack depth right now that worries me going into late feb and march.it was not 3 fault that his first class was not as good as this year with macklin,summers,rivers,ewingjr that said sapp and egerson is pretty good players and thorton and spann will be. but if we do not make it i think it is not coach 3 fault. it takes time to build a program at the bottom were the hoyas was 4-12 in big east 12-15 when 3 took over. it was a good 1st year and so far a good year to date this year.i think we will make the ncaa this year but if we don't i will not say we underachieved either. we are still learning the whole offence and playing some fresh and sophs to. go hoyas beat wva!!!!!

[Gtown4Life]

I think the Hoyas will make the tournament with a 10-6 Big East Conference record...just my opinion as of right now but much more has to be seen. JT3 is doing a fantastic job with the program seeing that his recruiting classes have gotten much better and he is 10-8 in conference play since he took over, which is very impressive considering he took over with a team that was 4-12 the previous year like you stated. I am hopeful JTIII keeps up the hard work and the team focuses and sets their eyes on really giving it all to reach their goal of making the tournament because it would be a huge step for the program to get back into the dance.

[SFHoya99]

If we do not make the NCAAs it is a disappointment, and a bad year if "bad" means the team underperformed even slightly (as opposed to grossly underperformed).

This doesn't mean the team sucks, the players suck or the coach should be fired. We can miss the tourney and not have that be true.

But it would still be a bad year.

[hoya73]

I agree with SF Hoya on that. We have a very favorable league schedule with 6 games against SJU, USF, Providence, Rutgers. It will be an extreme disappointment if we lose any of these. Then we just need to go 4-6 against the top and midlevel teams. Breaking even would put us at 11-5 BE. Most believe 10-6 gets us into the NCAA. Less than 10-6 would be a disappointing year.

[jctnhoya4ever]

with our schedule 10-6 may not get us in for sure? we need to get some big wins at 10-6 to get in i think.if we can beat duke and go 10-6 i think we would be a lock?but we need to keep playing hard and hope we don't run out of gas late in season. go hoyas i think we will get in ncaas !!!!! let get a big road win at wva wed night!!!!!

[theEDGEfactor]

we are deff an NCAA tourny team if we continue shootingthe way we did last night at msg

[lichoya68]

we will an dwill be ready for big east tourney and the ncaas.. eitghteen and nine would be mighty fine and nineteen and eight will be great .. thats before the big east and the ncaas..wowowo go hoyas climb that mountain and take their errrrrrrrrrrrrrrs off gohoyas lets keep in first place..

[JohnJacquesLayup]

I think it was Lang that put it best when he told us a couple years back that making the NCAA's every year is a completely unreasonable goal. (Sarcasm)

[YB]

Beating the Brokeback Mountaineers would be a nice win and create some buzz nationally, helping our cause.

[2ndRyan]

I recall that Georgetown's first trip to the NCAA's in the Thompson (the elder) Era went thru Morgantown.

In March, 1975 on successive nights the Hoyas beat GW and WVU (who had beaten Pitt the prior night) to win what I think was called the ECAC South.

Good memories.

[DFW HOYA]

johnjacqueslayup said:

I think it was Lang that put it best when he told us a couple years back that making the NCAA's every year is a completely unreasonable goal. (Sarcasm)

Lang did not say it was "completely unreasonable goal" as you cited it; instead, he called it "an unreasonable expectation". Then again, in the context of where college basketball is today, he was absolutely correct.

For Georgetown to make the NCAA tournament each and every season (with limited institutional resources and a large chunk of its budget paid to the order of MCI Center every year) is a goal that should be pursued wholeheartedly, and Lang said as much. Notwithstanding, to expect it outright is to be extremely myopic to the landscape of college athletics and how, particularly during the O'Donovan years, Georgetown coasted while much of Division I stepped on the gas pedal.

[JohnJacquesLayup]

dfw said:

johnjacqueslayup said:

I think it was Lang that put it best when he told us a couple years back that making the NCAA's every year is a completely unreasonable goal. (Sarcasm)

Lang did not say it was "completely unreasonable goal" as you cited it; instead, he called it "an unreasonable expectation". Then again, in the context of where college basketball is today, he was absolutely correct.

For Georgetown to make the NCAA tournament each and every season (with limited institutional resources and a large chunk of its budget paid to the order of MCI Center every year) is a goal that should be pursued wholeheartedly, and Lang said as much. Notwithstanding, to expect it outright is to be extremely myopic to the landscape of college athletics and how, particularly during the O'Donovan years, Georgetown coasted while much of Division I stepped on the gas pedal.

Relax, buddy. That was just a little poke at the guy, and notice I didn't try to quote him.

But I personally DO expect to make the NCAA's each year, but that's just me. Since when are high expectations worse than low ones?

[SFHoya99]

JJL,

The point that Joe Lang was trying to make -- poorly obviously -- is one I wholeheartedly agree with.

He was trying to delineate between goals and expectations. His comment that you cannot expect to make the tourney every year did NOT mean you did not go into every year expecting to make the tourney.

His comment was in direct reference to requirements for retaining a coach. He was saying that if we had a coach that coached ten years, over that ten years it was not reasonable to require that coach to make the NCAAs ALL ten years in order to keep his job. He picked a bad word in expectations.

The problem, of course, is that Esherick made one NCAA in five plus years. Which is no where near every year.

The goal should be to make the NCAAs every year. The goal should be to have a program that makes the NCAAs every year. But it shouldn't be an expectation that a coach makes the NCAAs for EVERY YEAR over a long period of time. Many HOF coaches don't do that.

"Since when are high expectations worse than low ones?"

Well, when it causes you to fire a good coach wrongly. Esherick, of course, was not a good coach, but Thompson did not meet your high "Expectations" last year. Should we have fired him? Gave him a poor performance review? I know if you get a "Did Not Meet Expectations" at my work, you're out the door.

[JohnJacquesLayup]

sfhoya99 said:

JJL,

The point that Joe Lang was trying to make -- poorly obviously -- is one I wholeheartedly agree with.

He was trying to delineate between goals and expectations. His comment that you cannot expect to make the tourney every year did NOT mean you did not go into every year expecting to make the tourney.

His comment was in direct reference to requirements for retaining a coach. He was saying that if we had a coach that coached ten years, over that ten years it was not reasonable to require that coach to make the NCAAs ALL ten years in order to keep his job. He picked a bad word in expectations.

The problem, of course, is that Esherick made one NCAA in five plus years. Which is no where near every year.

The goal should be to make the NCAAs every year. The goal should be to have a program that makes the NCAAs every year. But it shouldn't be an expectation that a coach makes the NCAAs for EVERY YEAR over a long period of time. Many HOF coaches don't do that.

"Since when are high expectations worse than low ones?"

Well, when it causes you to fire a good coach wrongly. Esherick, of course, was not a good coach, but Thompson did not meet your high "Expectations" last year. Should we have fired him? Gave him a poor performance review? I know if you get a "Did Not Meet Expectations" at my work, you're out the door.

SF,

I see your point. If Lang's comments were in regards to the requirements for retaining a coach, then they are indeed right. But if his comments were in regards to the general expectations/attitude of the department (as I had previously interpreted them), then I obviously take exception.

If you're out there Mr. Lang, I'm sorry!