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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 13, 2005 0:40:42 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketologyAn NIT team, according to Lunardi. With an RPI of 57, can't really disagree. Early in the season I know, and I am NOT saying we should panic. I am just posting this so it can be read, so please don't overreact, people! By the way, good luck to all of you who are in finals/papers mode right now. I too feel your pain.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 13, 2005 9:08:38 GMT -5
There obviously is a lack of things to write about over at ESPN. I feel like 24 hour news/sports news has made stuff like this just ridiculous. Bracket guesses shouldn't even come out until mid-way through a teams conference play.
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ephoya04
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Post by ephoya04 on Dec 13, 2005 10:14:35 GMT -5
I agree though with Joe. What have we done to earn anything more than that? We have 1 quality loss and one loss that should've been a win. Even the win at Oregon could turn out to be ho hum. Hard to argue at this point. Again WAY WAY WAY too early to panic. We still need to show up in the Big East to make the dance.
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Post by Frank Black on Dec 13, 2005 10:16:42 GMT -5
NIT-bound folks. You heard it here first.
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Post by GPHoya on Dec 13, 2005 10:37:19 GMT -5
Assuming that UConn, Villanova and Louisville are locks, Lunardi's current brackets have seven Big East teams competing for three slots with Syracuse, West Virginia and Notre Dame on the inside and Cincinnati, Georgetown, Marquette, and Pittsburgh on the outside looking at the NIT.
I have no idea whether he is right or wrong about his current assesment, but being in the top six in the Big East in March (not just in the standings, but including RPI, final 10 games, showing in the Big East Tournament, etc.) is likely to be as good a proxy as any for being a tournament team. Going 6-1 or 5-2 in our seven games among the other six Big East contenders is where we should focus a lot of attention as the season progresses.
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tgo
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Post by tgo on Dec 13, 2005 10:45:36 GMT -5
panic panic panic!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 13, 2005 10:55:52 GMT -5
With all the talk of RPI and OOC schedule, the main aspect to making the tournament always has been and continues to be Big East play. Regardless of who we beat our of conference, the basic thinking should be this:
8-8: bubble team that will need some help to get in
9-7: probably in but not a lock
10-6: almost certainty of a bid
11-5 (or better): NCAA lock
Thus, the REAL importance of the out-of-conference games is how well they prepare us for the Big East. That doesn't necessarily mean that tougher equals better. It really depends on the make-up of the team and how the coaches anticipate the team to progress.
If the Hoyas want to be a perennial NCAA team, then they need to be a perennial winner in the Big East. Efforts to slide in with a medicre conference record based upon RPI, etc, are misguided. When we can establish ourselves as one of the better teams in the Big East, at that point do we deserve to go to the NCAAs.
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Post by Frank Black on Dec 13, 2005 11:06:59 GMT -5
Well put, Friend. Couldn't agree more. Fortunately I've loaded up on shotguns and moonshine so I'm prepared for the dark days ahead. |
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Post by bmartin on Dec 13, 2005 11:25:42 GMT -5
Syracuse lost at home to Bucknell and should have lost to Manhattan. The win over Texas Tech in not so impressive now that USF and La. Tech have beaten them. Syracuse plays UConn, Villanova, & Cincinnati twice in Big East play. They play Notre Dame, Pitt, and Georgetown away. Pomeroy projects a 7-9 Big East record. www.kenpom.com/sked.php?team=Syracuse&t=pPomeroy projects 10-6 conference record for Georgetown: www.kenpom.com/sked.php?team=Georgetown&t=p |
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