GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 22, 2005 16:18:01 GMT -5
If we don't win out, we're going to the NIT. One loss from here on out and the 24-3 Hoyas will be like Utah St. a few years ago.
By losing to two teams that are currently 19-1 combined and beating a major conference team on the road, we have backed ourselves into a corner.
This team is going to have to dig deep.
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YB
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Post by YB on Dec 22, 2005 16:35:28 GMT -5
Quality wins (esp. OOC) are what matters at the end... and believe it or not, we have only so many opps there. @utep, @wvu, WVU, @yukon, SU, Cinci, @vu, Duke. And hopefully not lose the remainder, no poor losses. I think the bar is a bit higher than is generally thought, but then I never picked a single school in the field of 65, so take that for what it's worth.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 22, 2005 16:48:22 GMT -5
YB, I hope you're right that UTEP will be a quality win at the end. What they've done so far this season, combined with their conference schedule, doesn't lead me to believe they will be.
And as for not losing the remainder; that's a very big "IF." But you're right about needing the quality wins.
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YB
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Post by YB on Dec 22, 2005 16:51:39 GMT -5
I tend to think any road OOC win against a decent conference team is a good win, and UTEP will likely win their conference, so if we win that game, sure it's a good win. But we need a bit more than that, I think!
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 22, 2005 19:14:41 GMT -5
BTW, UTEP is in Conference USA now, so the chances are they won't be winning their conference.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 22, 2005 20:35:56 GMT -5
If we don't win out, we're going to the NIT. One loss from here on out and the 24-3 Hoyas will be like Utah St. a few years ago. By losing to two teams that are currently 19-1 combined and beating a major conference team on the road, we have backed ourselves into a corner. This team is going to have to dig deep. LMAO
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 23, 2005 1:00:05 GMT -5
Oregon lost to a weak WCC team tonight, the 5-7 Portland Pilots.
Those guys are killing us.
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nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on Dec 23, 2005 11:01:47 GMT -5
On a semi-related note, here's some info from kenpom.com www.kenpom.com/sked.php?y=2006&team=Georgetown&t=pHere are our 8 closest games as projected by Pomeroy. All are within a 5 point margin. ======================================== Wed Jan 11 Georgetown vs. (52) West Virginia Away -4 (36%) Tue Jan 24 Georgetown vs. (38) Notre Dame Away -5 (34%) Sat Jan 28 Georgetown vs. (17) Cincinnati Home -1 (48%) Tue Jan 31 Georgetown vs. (84) DePaul Away -1 (46%) Sun Feb 5 Georgetown vs. (12) Pittsburgh Home -2 (43%) Sun Feb 12 Georgetown vs. (52) West Virginia Home +4 (62%)Thu Feb 16 Georgetown vs. (83) Marquette Away -1 (46%) Sat Feb 25 Georgetown vs. (42) Syracuse Home +3 (59%)======================================== Pomeroy has us going 2-6 in our closest projected games for a 9-7 conference record. To get us to 10-6 in the BE we need to go 3-5 in these games Or if we’re shooting for 11-5, then we gotta steal another game. I’m predicting we’ll beat Cincy, Pitt, and Syracuse at home and steal one of the away games. JT3’s track record is good in these close games, so I say we steal one of these road games for a 4-4 in this stretch.
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Post by younghoya32 on Dec 23, 2005 11:24:01 GMT -5
On a semi-related note, here's some info from kenpom.com www.kenpom.com/sked.php?y=2006&team=Georgetown&t=pHere are our 8 closest games as projected by Pomeroy. All are within a 5 point margin. ======================================== Wed Jan 11 Georgetown vs. (52) West Virginia Away -4 (36%) Tue Jan 24 Georgetown vs. (38) Notre Dame Away -5 (34%) Sat Jan 28 Georgetown vs. (17) Cincinnati Home -1 (48%) Tue Jan 31 Georgetown vs. (84) DePaul Away -1 (46%) Sun Feb 5 Georgetown vs. (12) Pittsburgh Home -2 (43%) Sun Feb 12 Georgetown vs. (52) West Virginia Home +4 (62%)Thu Feb 16 Georgetown vs. (83) Marquette Away -1 (46%) Sat Feb 25 Georgetown vs. (42) Syracuse Home +3 (59%)======================================== Pomeroy has us going 2-6 in our closest projected games for a 9-7 conference record. To get us to 10-6 in the BE we need to go 3-5 in these games Or if we’re shooting for 11-5, then we gotta steal another game. I’m predicting we’ll beat Cincy, Pitt, and Syracuse at home and steal one of the away games. JT3’s track record is good in these close games, so I say we steal one of these road games for a 4-4 in this stretch. wouldn't that acutally make us 8-8 in our conference. We have those 6 loses plus Uconn and 'Nova...that makes 8 as far as I know. So i'm not gunna trust this thing not only because it doesn't know how to add but also becuase it's just dumb
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Bahstin
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Post by Bahstin on Dec 23, 2005 12:57:48 GMT -5
From Kenpom.com:
*Projected record is based on chances of winning, and therefore may not conform to the cumulative game-by-game predictions. This accounts for the unexpected results that will inevitably happen during the season.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 23, 2005 17:06:07 GMT -5
Note that before today, if you looked game by game, we were slated by Pomeroy rankings to go 13-3 (though his real prediction was 10-6, because we were winning almost all of those close games in his rankings).
It fluctuates heavily right not, and 9-7 or 10-6 seem like pretty decent predictions given our current play. If we play to our potential, there's no reason we couldn't go 12-4 or 13-3, though.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Dec 23, 2005 17:36:09 GMT -5
Having looked at the numbers I think that 10-6 or 11-5 is very reasonable.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 24, 2005 9:06:30 GMT -5
hold it... NO NIT TALK PLEASE ..PLEASE PLEASE isnot this basically the same team... although a year older with a greatly improveD legit big east center.. in hibbs.. and some really excellent frosh who will really contribute.. in the bigeast and.. especially the big east tourney... didnot we almost beat uconn at the garden.. didnot we or was i dreaming.. you gotta believe.. and the early ooc gameS and duke.. and away and vandy.. this is the plan you all.. and some easy games to work in jesse and eggie et al .. NO MORE NIT TALK FOLKS.. NONE OF THAT HERESY... GO HOYAS.. RAID THE RAIDERS .. MAKE THE RED RAIDERS HOYA BLUE........ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 28, 2005 17:22:09 GMT -5
Pomeroy has us 8-8 in BE now, 16-10 overall now (not including UTEP tonight). And the RPI currently sits at 132 after our win vs. Colgate last night.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Dec 28, 2005 17:36:57 GMT -5
At this point, the Oregon win does not really help our resume all that much. It is still a plus, but barely. We can't hang our hat on the Oregon game as our marquee "quality win" and hope to make the NCAAs.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 29, 2005 1:28:15 GMT -5
And some good news for a change...
Our big road win at UTEP has moved up our RPI from 132 to 99. Glad to see us out of the triple digit range finally. Now if it only weren't for that crappy Oregon team...
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Dec 29, 2005 3:43:10 GMT -5
Playing against Providence (78) should also help our RPI.
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Bahstin
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Post by Bahstin on Dec 29, 2005 8:44:11 GMT -5
The win moves us up from #50 to #37 at Kenpom.com. Also, he talks about Roy Hibbert in his blog: kenpom.com/blog/
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 29, 2005 8:57:58 GMT -5
The win moves us up from #50 to #37 at Kenpom.com. Also, he talks about Roy Hibbert in his blog: kenpom.com/blog/Ugh. Its painful to read this: One of the things about this personal stats venture is that the true value for a guy like Hibbert is discovered. His per-game averages won’t get much attention because he plays 25 mpg for a tortoise-paced team. For instance, compare Hibbert’s opportunities to that of Shelden Williams. Duke plays at a pace that is 16% faster than Georgetown. Williams plays 34% more minutes per game than Hibbert. In essence, the Landlord gets 54% more possessions to put up his numbers. Give Hibbert those opportunities and his 14.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, and 2.7 bpg become 22.2/10.2/4.2.
Hibbert, like Williams, is a rare shot blocker that isn’t foul prone. Maybe we’ll see him get more minutes during Big East battles.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Dec 29, 2005 9:51:10 GMT -5
Karl Hobbs apparently doesn't get it: That is the type of defiance in the face of stark reality that I would have expected from a certain mustachioed former Hoya mentor. "So you are saying our terrible schedule would have kept us out of the tournament but for the A-10 title last year? I'll show them- we'll play an even worse schedule this year." I can't wait for the uproar when an allegedly Top 25 GW team is in the NIT thanks to that type of arrogance. washingtontimes.com/sports/20051229-124911-7043r.htm
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