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Post by tashoya on Jan 4, 2024 20:54:06 GMT -5
I'll play here, because I clearly don't come from Elvado's world on the right, and I am an alumnus. When Gay's hiring was first announced, I thought good for her. I wasn't aware of her background, and had no reason to think that she wasn't qualified or hadn't been properly vetted. In retrospect, it becomes clear that she was a very poor choice, and that's on the Harvard Board of Overseers, not her. One certainly has to wonder if this wasn't a DEI-influenced decision. Bill Ackman certainly seems to think it was. That doesn't mean DEI is a bad thing per se, but you can't escape that it's a really, really bad example of a really, really bad result. I read Ackman’s diatribe after Gay was fired blaming DEI for antisemitism on campus. I found it very unpersuasive; he seems to have shifted quickly rightward recently. It was all speculative and read like a rich, white guy complaining about how he’s really the oppressed one. Interestingly enough, it seems Ackman had more trouble vetting his own wife than Harvard did vetting Gay. I wonder if he’s going to have the same vitriol towards her? www.businessinsider.com/neri-oxman-admits-plagiarism-business-insider-article-apology-2024-1?ampFWIW, one of my GU roommates knows Ackman quite well. My guy can't stand him. Says he a real prick.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 4, 2024 23:28:51 GMT -5
I'll play here, because I clearly don't come from Elvado's world on the right, and I am an alumnus. When Gay's hiring was first announced, I thought good for her. I wasn't aware of her background, and had no reason to think that she wasn't qualified or hadn't been properly vetted. In retrospect, it becomes clear that she was a very poor choice, and that's on the Harvard Board of Overseers, not her. One certainly has to wonder if this wasn't a DEI-influenced decision. Bill Ackman certainly seems to think it was. That doesn't mean DEI is a bad thing per se, but you can't escape that it's a really, really bad example of a really, really bad result. I read Ackman’s diatribe after Gay was fired blaming DEI for antisemitism on campus. I found it very unpersuasive; he seems to have shifted quickly rightward recently. It was all speculative and read like a rich, white guy complaining about how he’s really the oppressed one. Interestingly enough, it seems Ackman had more trouble vetting his own wife than Harvard did vetting Gay. I wonder if he’s going to have the same vitriol towards her? www.businessinsider.com/neri-oxman-admits-plagiarism-business-insider-article-apology-2024-1?ampThis is very amusing.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 5, 2024 6:19:08 GMT -5
I read Ackman’s diatribe after Gay was fired blaming DEI for antisemitism on campus. I found it very unpersuasive; he seems to have shifted quickly rightward recently. It was all speculative and read like a rich, white guy complaining about how he’s really the oppressed one. Interestingly enough, it seems Ackman had more trouble vetting his own wife than Harvard did vetting Gay. I wonder if he’s going to have the same vitriol towards her? www.businessinsider.com/neri-oxman-admits-plagiarism-business-insider-article-apology-2024-1?ampFWIW, one of my GU roommates knows Ackman quite well. My guy can't stand him. Says he a real prick. That comes as absolutely no surprise. He seems like a guy absolutely convinced of his own “rightness”, evidence be damned. He thinks Elon Musk isn’t antisemitic, just because he doesn’t want Musk to be, despite the nonstop antisemitism Musk expresses on Twitter. Imagine relentlessly going after school administrators for antisemitism, all the while posting on the most antisemitic cesspool led by someone who openly endorses antisemitic ideals. He probably doesn’t even experience any sort of cognitive dissonance from it because he simply knows he’s right and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong. He’s very unlikeable in the public sphere, I can only imagine he’s a nightmare interpersonally.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 5, 2024 11:06:09 GMT -5
FWIW, one of my GU roommates knows Ackman quite well. My guy can't stand him. Says he a real prick. That comes as absolutely no surprise. He seems like a guy absolutely convinced of his own “rightness”, evidence be damned. He thinks Elon Musk isn’t antisemitic, just because he doesn’t want Musk to be, despite the nonstop antisemitism Musk expresses on Twitter. Imagine relentlessly going after school administrators for antisemitism, all the while posting on the most antisemitic cesspool led by someone who openly endorses antisemitic ideals. He probably doesn’t even experience any sort of cognitive dissonance from it because he simply knows he’s right and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong. He’s very unlikeable in the public sphere, I can only imagine he’s a nightmare interpersonally. That assessment would certainly jibe with his Herbalife debacle.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 5, 2024 11:37:08 GMT -5
That comes as absolutely no surprise. He seems like a guy absolutely convinced of his own “rightness”, evidence be damned. He thinks Elon Musk isn’t antisemitic, just because he doesn’t want Musk to be, despite the nonstop antisemitism Musk expresses on Twitter. Imagine relentlessly going after school administrators for antisemitism, all the while posting on the most antisemitic cesspool led by someone who openly endorses antisemitic ideals. He probably doesn’t even experience any sort of cognitive dissonance from it because he simply knows he’s right and anyone who disagrees with him is wrong. He’s very unlikeable in the public sphere, I can only imagine he’s a nightmare interpersonally. That assessment would certainly jibe with his Herbalife debacle. i Yeah, he’s probably not the best guy to be giving morality lectures given his questionable (read: possibly illegal, but definitely unethical) history.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 5, 2024 11:59:45 GMT -5
That assessment would certainly jibe with his Herbalife debacle. i Yeah, he’s probably not the best guy to be giving morality lectures given his questionable (read: possibly illegal, but definitely unethical) history. As a general proposition, the last person fit to give morality lectures got nailed to a cross. The rest of us are all deeply flawed in our own ways.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jan 7, 2024 12:35:06 GMT -5
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 18, 2024 10:25:30 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Jan 18, 2024 13:52:18 GMT -5
He may be all of those things, but he did not cause her to plagiarize throughout her career, nor did he tacitly approve of virulent anti-Semitic activity on her campus.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 18, 2024 14:08:32 GMT -5
He may be all of those things, but he did not cause her to plagiarize throughout her career, nor did he tacitly approve of virulent anti-Semitic activity on her campus. At what point did I claim that he did?
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Post by Elvado on Jan 18, 2024 18:36:55 GMT -5
He may be all of those things, but he did not cause her to plagiarize throughout her career, nor did he tacitly approve of virulent anti-Semitic activity on her campus. At what point did I claim that he did? You didn’t. And good for you. But demonizing Ackman is an overused deflection of the real bad actor here.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 18, 2024 20:59:29 GMT -5
At what point did I claim that he did? You didn’t. And good for you. But demonizing Ackman is an overused deflection of the real bad actor here. Pardon me while I pick myself off the floor, but I agree.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 19, 2024 4:45:11 GMT -5
At what point did I claim that he did? You didn’t. And good for you. But demonizing Ackman is an overused deflection of the real bad actor here. Except there is nothing to deflect from. Claudine Gay is out as president and her reputation is in shambles. That part of the story is over. However, Ackman continues to throw 5,000 word tantrums almost daily on Twitter threatening everybody he can. There can be more than one “bad actor” in any given situation as there is here. He has made this whole thing about himself. Let me guess: you didn’t actually read the article.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 19, 2024 6:58:15 GMT -5
You didn’t. And good for you. But demonizing Ackman is an overused deflection of the real bad actor here. Except there is nothing to deflect from. Claudine Gay is out as president and her reputation is in shambles. That part of the story is over. However, Ackman continues to throw 5,000 word tantrums almost daily on Twitter threatening everybody he can. There can be more than one “bad actor” in any given situation as there is here. He has made this whole thing about himself. Let me guess: you didn’t actually read the article. Similar to Elvado's failure to read an article I posted on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment co-authored by Judge Luttig when Elvado was whinging about who decides what is an insurrection for purposes of disqualification. See exchange in thread "46", January 6th. His response: "Then we fundamentally agree" to cover for the fact he didn't entirely read Judge Luttig's analysis, if he read it at all. hoyatalk2.proboards.com/user/4687/recent?page=1
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