bills
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Post by bills on Oct 13, 2023 7:52:26 GMT -5
1. A cohesive offensive scheme 2. A cohesive defensive scheme 3. Consistent effort 4. PT consequences for poor effort or “hero ball” The rest will follow I would just tweak your points a little. 1. A commitment to strong team defense the entire game 2. A team understanding and committing to an offensive scheme that has good ball movement leading to high percentage open shots, especially open 3s 3. Development of a the individual skills and understanding of team defense and team offense of a young roster with very limited floor time experience at the D1 level the key grade will be how they stack up against these standards at the end of the season, not in the first few games. What will we be building this year in terms of a team identity and what progress is demonstrated over the course of the season?
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Oct 13, 2023 7:53:28 GMT -5
I agree with 2003's post with one caveat. Too many folks are looking at Georgetown and making assumptions about this year based upon last year. While that kind of comparison historically had validity, the fact that the Hoyas were a 200+ ranked team on KenPom last year is pretty much irrelevant in an era of free agency when all but 3 players have left and there are 11 new players on the roster, including walk-ons. I am neither an optimist nor a pessimist about this season---until I see them play a few games I have no idea what this team is or what it will become. The goal is for the team to be significantly better in February than they are in November. Totally agree. There is almost zero linkage to last year at this point. It is a total blank canvas. I think the roster (the front court especially) is probably a skilled player or two light, but I’m hoping that the whole is better than the sum of the parts with component coaching. Cooley’s teams historically have been weaker in November but usually get stronger as the year goes on. I wouldn’t be surprised for us to have a scare or even lose a game to a non P5 ooc opponent, and I’m sure the sky will be falling on here. But come January and February I think this team will be better and probably will win 2-3 games we have no business winning. Anything better than a 15-15-ish / .500 record will exceed my expectations; the BE is a bear this year.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 13, 2023 9:53:23 GMT -5
I look forward to Coach Cooley NOT constantly yelling "move" and "rebound" as proper practice and coaching will have made those actions instinctual.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 13, 2023 18:44:47 GMT -5
I agree with 2003's post with one caveat. Too many folks are looking at Georgetown and making assumptions about this year based upon last year. While that kind of comparison historically had validity, the fact that the Hoyas were a 200+ ranked team on KenPom last year is pretty much irrelevant in an era of free agency when all but 3 players have left and there are 11 new players on the roster, including walk-ons. I am neither an optimist nor a pessimist about this season---until I see them play a few games I have no idea what this team is or what it will become. The goal is for the team to be significantly better in February than they are in November. I agree with this, mostly. You are correct that everything has changed except for Heath and two guys who barely played (Bristol, Mutombo). The entire staff has turned around and nearly the entire roster is different as well. So, in that sense, whatever the 2022-2023 Hoyas were ranked on any of the analytics sites is mostly not relevant to the 2023-2024 roster. That is why I think we will see massive improvement. The coaching staff is significantly better. There's no way a Cooley-led defense is going to allow opponents in Big East play to shoot 42.3% from three point range. For these reasons, we should see huge improvements. That's my full expectation. But, I think its erroneous to even think of this as a "blank slate," a term I think another poster used. Because it's not. Maybe we are a blank slate, with baggage. Our previous coach was unfathomable levels of horrible and won 2 Big East games over 2 years. Cooley has now said in at least two interviews that he felt like he was hurt in the portal because players saw the last two years at Georgetown and that it was a tough sell. So sure, it's much easier to get better quickly now. I think expecting an NCAA-level team (or something very close) next year (2024-2025) should be an expectation/goal for Cooley in Year 2. If Cooley (or any coach) was doing a rebuild in similar circumstances 20 years ago, it would have taken much longer. So in sum, I mostly agree--the analytics for 2023-2024 should largely be independent of what came before. But, what came before still has an impact on what our current roster looks like, particularly who we were able to get from the transfer portal. And thus, it will make a difference, even if indirect, on how good we are this year. Very few programs start from a completely blank slate (i.e., changing the entire roster) and are very good or top 25 teams, for example. Pitino may well be one example of that--I am still a little skeptical St. John's will be as good as people think--but that's still a large hole for a coach to climb out off, even for a Hall of Famer like him.
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