hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 11, 2023 13:36:36 GMT -5
If Jack doesn’t even offer Pitino then the list coaches he has ignored the existence of at crossroad moments in the program: Hurley, Smart, Gates (who finished his first mizzou reg season ranked), and Pitino His unwavering confidence is incredible That’s what happens when you never leave the comfy confines of 37th and O. Jack has never, ever, competed in the real world and operates in a consequence free environment where he can indulge his fetish for all things Thompson and all things woke. As long as he calls the shots, we are doomed. If I chose a president, the absolute last person I would ever choose is the guy who has never had an outside world job and has spent basically his whole life in the giant deleted ritzy bubble that is Georgetown. He quite literally does operate as the annoying trust fund kids who don’t care about any consequences, just based on feelings and his impulses
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Post by practice on Mar 11, 2023 13:43:40 GMT -5
Thanks to Wikipedia and his own bio, I was able to piece together DeGioia's path to greatness as President of Georgetown University since 2001. Look at his tremendous academic background and professional development. How can this guy not be uniquely qualified to be president for life and ruler of all things basketball since 1982 (according to JDG):
BA Georgetown University 1979 PhD Georgetown University 1995
President of Georgetown University, 2001-Present Senior Vice President, Georgetown University, 1998-2001 Vice President, Georgetown University, 1995-1998 Professor of Philosophy, Georgetown University, 1995 to present Associate Vice President and CAO, Georgetown University, - 1992-1995 Dean of Student Affairs, Georgetown University, ? - 1992 Assistant to President Healey, Georgetown University, 1982-? New South Hall Director, Georgetown University, 1979-1982
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tjm62
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Post by tjm62 on Mar 11, 2023 13:43:59 GMT -5
Yes. He has changed Georgetown into his own DEI playground, has abandoned Catholicism and the Jesuit tradition. At last years freshman convocation he celebrated a senior who promoted her entry into this country illegally. This goes beyond basketball which is but one example of his incompetence and self-absorption. 20+ years for one President is criminal. Yikes
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 11, 2023 13:46:53 GMT -5
sacking smokeyjack? yes. How could anyone defend JDG at this point? deletedRe-read the board rules, especially this part:
Struck a nerve there did I? I’m personally not hiding behind my keyboard. All I suggested was that theWay is. He’s not an objective voice in my opinion.
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DonkDonk
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Post by DonkDonk on Mar 11, 2023 13:49:55 GMT -5
If you have been on campus or read anything emanating from the University recently, it is palpable that diversity hires and progressive politics are front, center and everything. I’m making no comment on the merits of that and also feel the University can do whatever it wants. But, I think it’s fair to assume, based upon that, Jack would MUCH prefer and almost certainly will pick a black coach.
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Post by practice on Mar 11, 2023 13:51:21 GMT -5
If you have been on campus or read anything emanating from the University recently, it is palpable that diversity hires and progressive politics are front, center and everything. I’m making no comment on the merits of that and also feel the University can do whatever it wants. But, I think it’s fair to assume, based upon that, Jack would MUCH prefer and almost certainly will pick a black coach. I'd prefer Rick Pitino and new President of Georgetown who is a person of color. Win win.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 11, 2023 13:55:06 GMT -5
How could anyone defend JDG at this point? deletedRe-read the board rules, especially this part:
Struck a nerve there did I? I’m personally not hiding behind my keyboard. All I suggested was that theWay is. He’s not an objective voice in my opinion. No nerve struck. Basic expectations for board behavior. You yourself are “hiding” behind a screen name that is not your given name. Perfectly fine, we don’t require that. We do require respectful discourse, and those rules have existed since day 1. If your litmus test is objectivity here, the majority of posts might run afoul of that.
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H2Oya 05
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Post by H2Oya 05 on Mar 11, 2023 14:04:05 GMT -5
If Jack is the reason we aren’t considering Pitino, it’s time to thank him for his service and find a new president.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2023 14:15:36 GMT -5
Who are the relevant board members to contact as an alum on this issue?
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HoyaSC
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Post by HoyaSC on Mar 11, 2023 14:17:37 GMT -5
Replace "basketball" with a mistake in academics that ended up being a multimillion dollar disaster. For example, say JDG wasted $20 million on building a new phrenology program. Any competent board would sack him.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 11, 2023 14:20:19 GMT -5
Replace "basketball" with a mistake in academics that ended up being a multimillion dollar disaster. For example, say JDG wasted $20 million on building a new phrenology program. Any competent board would sack him. The Ewing extension certainly requires a high level of scrutiny on Jack that he likely has never gotten. I think that extension—and related waste of money—is at the least negligent and arguably breach of his fiduciary duties.
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Post by practice on Mar 11, 2023 14:27:09 GMT -5
Replace "basketball" with a mistake in academics that ended up being a multimillion dollar disaster. For example, say JDG wasted $20 million on building a new phrenology program. Any competent board would sack him. The Ewing extension certainly requires a high level of scrutiny on Jack that he likely has never gotten. I think that extension—and related waste of money—is at the least negligent and arguably breach of his fiduciary duties. I cannot believe that extension -- the pure idiocy and unnecessary nature of it -- didn't result in a front page Washington Post article about DeGioia's complete and total incompetence and fealty to John Thompson's ghost. How about the fact that it kicks in NEXT YEAR! That Ewing had two years still on his contract ... and then DeGioia gives him an additional three guaranteed. He's the highest paid employee of the university by a mile (although it would be nice for someone to report on any golden goodbye deal DeGioia has negotiated for himself). The contract extension at the time was a breach of fiduciary duty and it has just become worse and worse and worse ... I'm not sure who the class would be, but some class action suit law firm should look into whether or not anyone can name DeGioia in a lawsuit.
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 11, 2023 14:28:59 GMT -5
If basketball is 'not that important' in the grand scheme, then he should stay out of it. If it is, then he should be hiring the best candidate.
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HoyaSC
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Post by HoyaSC on Mar 11, 2023 14:37:03 GMT -5
The Ewing extension certainly requires a high level of scrutiny on Jack that he likely has never gotten. I think that extension—and related waste of money—is at the least negligent and arguably breach of his fiduciary duties. I cannot believe that extension -- the pure idiocy and unnecessary nature of it -- didn't result in a front page Washington Post article about DeGioia's complete and total incompetence and fealty to John Thompson's ghost. How about the fact that it kicks in NEXT YEAR! That Ewing had two years still on his contract ... and then DeGioia gives him an additional three guaranteed. He's the highest paid employee of the university by a mile (although it would be nice for someone to report on any golden goodbye deal DeGioia has negotiated for himself). The contract extension at the time was a breach of fiduciary duty and it has just become worse and worse and worse ... I'm not sure who the class would be, but some class action suit law firm should look into whether or not anyone can name DeGioia in a lawsuit. Practice, I vote for you as named representative plaintiff.
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Post by hoya305 on Mar 11, 2023 14:44:05 GMT -5
… and he completely mismanaged COVID. Sucking up to the mayor, Georgetown was one of very few schools in the country that was CLOSED during the entire ’20-’21 academic year. On a personal note, I always find his tone annoyingly condescending. But, unfortunately, with a Capital Campaign being launched, I don’t see him going anywhere.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 11, 2023 14:47:32 GMT -5
… and he completely mismanaged COVID. Sucking up to the mayor, Georgetown was one of very few schools in the country that was CLOSED during the entire ’20-’21 academic year. On a personal note, I always find his tone annoyingly condescending. But, unfortunately, with a Capital Campaign being launched, I don’t see him going anywhere. And the school was crying poverty during the pandemic, but doled out $12 million to Ewing in an extension no rational person would have given. Of course, they hid this because they knew it would anger alumni and faculty and administrators (who I believed faced salary cuts, is that true?).
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Post by practice on Mar 11, 2023 14:51:44 GMT -5
I cannot believe that extension -- the pure idiocy and unnecessary nature of it -- didn't result in a front page Washington Post article about DeGioia's complete and total incompetence and fealty to John Thompson's ghost. How about the fact that it kicks in NEXT YEAR! That Ewing had two years still on his contract ... and then DeGioia gives him an additional three guaranteed. He's the highest paid employee of the university by a mile (although it would be nice for someone to report on any golden goodbye deal DeGioia has negotiated for himself). The contract extension at the time was a breach of fiduciary duty and it has just become worse and worse and worse ... I'm not sure who the class would be, but some class action suit law firm should look into whether or not anyone can name DeGioia in a lawsuit. Practice, I vote for you as named representative plaintiff. I'd be honored ... but there are so many better handles on here ... the_way v DeGioia lichoya68 v DeGioia the professor v DeGioia DFWHoya v DeGioia ... yeah right SirSaxa v DeGioia Hoyaboya v DeGioia There are several thousand HoyaTalk posters on here .... hmmm ...
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 11, 2023 14:55:57 GMT -5
If basketball is 'not that important' in the grand scheme, then he should stay out of it. If it is, then he should be hiring the best candidate. Can’t emphasize this enough. If the multimillion-dollar budget is just a rounding error on the overall university budget, why is the president personally involved? Shouldn’t his bandwidth be filled with more important things? And if it does warrant his attention, shouldn’t it also warrant best efforts to succeed?
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 11, 2023 16:19:44 GMT -5
… and he completely mismanaged COVID. Sucking up to the mayor, Georgetown was one of very few schools in the country that was CLOSED during the entire ’20-’21 academic year. On a personal note, I always find his tone annoyingly condescending. But, unfortunately, with a Capital Campaign being launched, I don’t see him going anywhere. And the school was crying poverty during the pandemic, but doled out $12 million to Ewing in an extension no rational person would have given. Of course, they hid this because they knew it would anger alumni and faculty and administrators (who I believed faced salary cuts, is that true?). Yup one of my professors during the pandemic year was also a Dean but needed the money. But boo hoo the university is struggling so much while their endowment also basically doubled
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 11, 2023 18:02:37 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense with Jack to be going behind provy president’s back by talking to cooley, if it goes wrong then he can just make Reed take the blame since that’s what adults do
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