95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on Feb 4, 2023 12:48:21 GMT -5
Remember when everyone said Murray was a stud and an upgrade over Aminu because they watched some YouTube highlights? I’m convinced no one actually watched him at LSU. They both had freshman seasons and one was clearly better/more talented than the other. Never mind all the character issues with Murray. BM is the more talented scorer while Aminu is the better all around player and has a much higher bball IQ. Murray can shoot better. That’s it. Not even score because he dribbles at a JV level.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 4, 2023 12:49:33 GMT -5
The inability for Ewing to bench Murray when he's awful is still mind boggling. Promises were made
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 4, 2023 12:50:33 GMT -5
I really hope our "new" coach can retain a lot of this team. So much potential with some coaching. Any coaching.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 4, 2023 12:52:51 GMT -5
The inability for Ewing to bench Murray when he's awful is still mind boggling. Promises were made Absolutely, this is Pat’s do or die year. Win at all costs. Screw graduation rates, playing freshman, etc. None of this matters to him if he’s not back.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 4, 2023 12:53:51 GMT -5
BM is the more talented scorer while Aminu is the better all around player and has a much higher bball IQ. Murray can shoot better. That’s it. Not even score because he dribbles at a JV level. I will say that Aminu on this team would be way better than he was last year and what BM has been this year. We have way more scoring options on this years team.
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mfk24
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Post by mfk24 on Feb 4, 2023 12:54:48 GMT -5
We actually ran a couple competent plays in the middle of the rest of the crap. Wonder who is responsible for drawing those up. Expect UConn to run away with it in the second half but I “think” we looked a little better on D for a few stretches.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 12:55:49 GMT -5
Murray isn't bad, but with an utter cr%p point guard and a whole bench of low basketball IQ coaching he is put into roles that aren't his strengths. He is a good defender, he is really good down hill score as often in a mismatch and a quite good set 3 point shooter. To get the best from Murray takes a good point, which Hoyas coaching play their worst option at point. Murray doesn't have great handle and doesn't remotely think like a point guard. Putting him in that role of point is utter failure of the whole set of coaches.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 4, 2023 12:59:07 GMT -5
We actually ran a couple competent plays in the middle of the rest of the crap. Wonder who is responsible for drawing those up. Expect UConn to run away with it in the second half but I “think” we looked a little better on D for a few stretches. I don't think UCONN runs away unless Jackson takes and makes some 3s. It'll be difficult to score as long as we can completely ignore 1 of there players. I thought Riley shot poorly but Jackson seems to be a brick outside of 3ft.
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95hoya
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Post by 95hoya on Feb 4, 2023 13:00:39 GMT -5
I really hope our "new" coach can retain a lot of this team. So much potential with some coaching. Any coaching. I want to clean house. We need to catch up to the rest of High Majors in talent. We got everyone’s leftovers essentially where Georgetown was their best option.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 13:00:57 GMT -5
We actually ran a couple competent plays in the middle of the rest of the crap. Wonder who is responsible for drawing those up. Expect UConn to run away with it in the second half but I “think” we looked a little better on D for a few stretches. Agreed. Defense improves when Wahab is out so other aren't playing help defense with him. Primo being out helps defense as he also needs helpers on defense. Heath, Murray, Akok, Brad, and Riley had many good defensive individual plays and play good team defense together.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2023 13:04:17 GMT -5
Tarik Turner with an on target comment as usual: "Georgetown just needs to take care of the ball and that would eliminate a lot of problems."
Murray's skillset is not at the point where he can handle and distribute as the offensive initiator, but UConn has taken Spears away by face guarding him with Jackson (6-6) and Hawkins (6-5). Spears was able to get only one shot off (actually a plus it was 0-1 instead of 0-9) but the result was 5 Murray TOs because he was running a spot he is ill suited to run.
The defense was actually not bad this half and there was video proof that Ewing stressed keeping contact with Hawkins at all times.
Nicely executed play coming out of the under 4 TO with a Murray layup at the end.
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OmaHoya
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Post by OmaHoya on Feb 4, 2023 13:05:04 GMT -5
Small sample size, but our D has looked OK this game, and I thought was pretty good vs. Creighton the other night. Only took 20 games, but maybe some concepts are sinking in.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 4, 2023 13:05:27 GMT -5
I really hope our "new" coach can retain a lot of this team. So much potential with some coaching. Any coaching. I want to clean house. We need to catch up to the rest of High Majors in talent. We got everyone’s leftovers essentially where Georgetown was their best option. I just want Q and Primo gone. They are our worse defenders and black holes on offense. Everyone else I think can be groomed with some normal coaching.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 13:07:01 GMT -5
UConn can have Calcanterra, Hawkins, and/or Newton get going with 3s as all can go off and having Primo on any of them they very little defense on them.
UConn tied to keep up with Hoya turnovers, with 7 (compared to 8), which is rare for UConn.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2023 13:07:06 GMT -5
Murray isn't bad, but with an utter cr%p point guard and a whole bench of low basketball IQ coaching he is put into roles that aren't his strengths. He is a good defender, he is really good down hill score as often in a mismatch and a quite good set 3 point shooter. To get the best from Murray takes a good point, which Hoyas coaching play their worst option at point. Murray doesn't have great handle and doesn't remotely think like a point guard. Putting him in that role of point is utter failure of the whole set of coaches. Honestly I think it was a result of UConn actively smothering Spears with 6-5 and 6-6 guys and making him give the ball up early. I'm not sure Heath, Riley or Murray are great PG options as a result.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 13:09:08 GMT -5
Not sure how Wahab doesn't get called for moving picks more
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 13:09:44 GMT -5
So far in 2nd half Murray used to his strengths.
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OmaHoya
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Post by OmaHoya on Feb 4, 2023 13:13:42 GMT -5
So far in 2nd half Murray used to his strengths. Lost on D though - over helping led to that alley oop, and didn't close out on Netwon's three.
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mfk24
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Post by mfk24 on Feb 4, 2023 13:15:35 GMT -5
Not sure how Wahab doesn't get called for moving picks more Sanogo does the same. They’d have to call it both ways.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Feb 4, 2023 13:15:58 GMT -5
Murray isn't bad, but with an utter cr%p point guard and a whole bench of low basketball IQ coaching he is put into roles that aren't his strengths. He is a good defender, he is really good down hill score as often in a mismatch and a quite good set 3 point shooter. To get the best from Murray takes a good point, which Hoyas coaching play their worst option at point. Murray doesn't have great handle and doesn't remotely think like a point guard. Putting him in that role of point is utter failure of the whole set of coaches. Honestly I think it was a result of UConn actively smothering Spears with 6-5 and 6-6 guys and making him give the ball up early. I'm not sure Heath, Riley or Murray are great PG options as a result. The difference is the others aren't a defensive liability. Murray should never run point, nor Reilly. Murray is decent as is Anglin. They also play defense well.
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