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Post by prhoya on Nov 3, 2022 15:13:25 GMT -5
FS2 is rebroadcasting later that night What time? Like others, I am not seeing that. My guide has on FS2, St. John's at 6 pm, Providence at 8 pm, then St. John's rebroadcast at 5:30 am on November 13, Seton Hall at 7:30 am, Providence at 9:30 am, and no other basketball on Sunday. This game will be a challenge to see. If it’s on TV, then it’s streaming somewhere.
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 3, 2022 19:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by Just Cos on Nov 4, 2022 0:53:28 GMT -5
FS2 is rebroadcasting later that night What time? Like others, I am not seeing that. My guide has on FS2, St. John's at 6 pm, Providence at 8 pm, then St. John's rebroadcast at 5:30 am on November 13, Seton Hall at 7:30 am, Providence at 9:30 am, and no other basketball on Sunday. This game will be a challenge to see. 11/8 at 9:30 PM PST on Spectrum in San Diego. Thought FS2 was national but maybe it does regional broadcasts.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 4, 2022 9:15:27 GMT -5
What time? Like others, I am not seeing that. My guide has on FS2, St. John's at 6 pm, Providence at 8 pm, then St. John's rebroadcast at 5:30 am on November 13, Seton Hall at 7:30 am, Providence at 9:30 am, and no other basketball on Sunday. This game will be a challenge to see. 11/8 at 9:30 PM PST on Spectrum in San Diego. Thought FS2 was national but maybe it does regional broadcasts. Ah, I think we are talking about two different games. The first game against Coppin State is on TV nationally. The game at issue is the November 12 game against Green Bay. That's the one on WDCA that does not appear to be nationally broadcast.
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Post by seaweed on Nov 4, 2022 9:34:58 GMT -5
11/8 at 9:30 PM PST on Spectrum in San Diego. Thought FS2 was national but maybe it does regional broadcasts. Ah, I think we are talking about two different games. The first game against Coppin State is on TV nationally. The game at issue is the November 12 game against Green Bay. That's the one on WDCA that does not appear to be nationally broadcast. Do what I am doing -attend in person. Sure, it’s a haul, The boys need our support and it’ll be great to be in the gym making noise for the Hoyas. Driving down a week from today, wootwooo!
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Post by vv83 on Nov 4, 2022 15:43:44 GMT -5
While our D has been very bad in many ways during Ewing's coaching tenure - there is one piece of data that offers at least some small hope. This data has been out there on twitter and other sites for awhile, but I have not seen it posted here yet.
The bottom line: Kaiden Rice was such an awful defender that his presence on the court took us from being an average defensive team with Rice on the bench to a horrific defensive team with Rice on the court (data is for BE games)
Our defensive points per possession with Rice on the floor: 1.17 (a disastrously bad number) Our defensive points per possession with Rice off the floor: 1.00 (a slightly above average number)
We averaged 72.7 possessions per game last year, X .17 difference in PPP - you could interpret this data to say that Rice cost us 12.3 points per 40 minutes that he was on the court. Since he averaged about 63% of the minutes (over 24 minutes per game) - you could interpret this data as saying that Rice cost us almost 8 points per game with his extremely bad defense.
This is a super simplistic way of looking at the data, but I do think there is something meaningful here. There is obviously more wrong with our defense the past 5 seasons than just Rice. But last year's complete defensive debacle probably had a lot to do with Ewing feeling he needed to play Rice a lot because of his shooting. I think there is some hope that we can improve our defense significantly simply by replacing Rice with an average defender (Mozone, Heath, Angliin?)
Add in the fact that we also played slightly better offensively with Rice off the court than with him on the court (.94 ppp vs. .91 ppp), and the prognosis gets a little bit better still
I don't think we have fully internalized just how lacking in talent last season's team was. This year's team probably is not more than a borderline average big east roster (if Heath gets to play by conference season). But our talent level should be miles better than last year. Just the fact that Ewing felt he had to play Rice so much last year is telling. Part of it is terrible roster/talent assessment by Ewing in building a team that was depending on Rice as a key piece. But if we have improved the talent as much as it looks like we have- maybe we'll at least have a fighting chance to be competitive in most BE games even if Ewing's game coaching remains sub-par.
The main problem with the team has clearly been coaching. but in the end - poorly coached teams can still be competitive if they have some talent. Poorly coached teams without talent - well, we saw what that looked like last year
and if by some stroke of luck Ewing and his new assistants to a better job coaching this year - maybe we'll even have some hope of having a decent season.
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 4, 2022 16:18:08 GMT -5
While our D has been very bad in many ways during Ewing's coaching tenure - there is one piece of data that offers at least some small hope. This data has been out there on twitter and other sites for awhile, but I have not seen it posted here yet. The bottom line: Kaiden Rice was such an awful defender that his presence on the court took us from being an average defensive team with Rice on the bench to a horrific defensive team with Rice on the court (data is for BE games) Our defensive points per possession with Rice on the floor: 1.17 (a disastrously bad number) Our defensive points per possession with Rice off the floor: 1.00 (a slightly above average number) We averaged 72.7 possessions per game last year, X .17 difference in PPP - you could interpret this data to say that Rice cost us 12.3 points per 40 minutes that he was on the court. Since he averaged about 63% of the minutes (over 24 minutes per game) - you could interpret this data as saying that Rice cost us almost 8 points per game with his extremely bad defense. This is a super simplistic way of looking at the data, but I do think there is something meaningful here. There is obviously more wrong with our defense the past 5 seasons than just Rice. But last year's complete defensive debacle probably had a lot to do with Ewing feeling he needed to play Rice a lot because of his shooting. I think there is some hope that we can improve our defense significantly simply by replacing Rice with an average defender (Mozone, Heath, Angliin?) Add in the fact that we also played slightly better offensively with Rice off the court than with him on the court (.94 ppp vs. .91 ppp), and the prognosis gets a little bit better still I don't think we have fully internalized just how lacking in talent last season's team was. This year's team probably is not more than a borderline average big east roster (if Heath gets to play by conference season). But our talent level should be miles better than last year. Just the fact that Ewing felt he had to play Rice so much last year is telling. Part of it is terrible roster/talent assessment by Ewing in building a team that was depending on Rice as a key piece. But if we have improved the talent as much as it looks like we have- maybe we'll at least have a fighting chance to be competitive in most BE games even if Ewing's game coaching remains sub-par. The main problem with the team has clearly been coaching. but in the end - poorly coached teams can still be competitive if they have some talent. Poorly coached teams without talent - well, we saw what that looked like last year and if by some stroke of luck Ewing and his new assistants to a better job coaching this year - maybe we'll even have some hope of having a decent season. If only the coaches had access to date like this and could make playing time decisions incorporating said insights, in addition to using their own eyes. Yet another example of Patrick Ewing being held down unfairly...
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 5, 2022 10:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 5, 2022 12:29:23 GMT -5
Thank you, LicHoya and Dan McQ for sharing this. I realize that we here at HoyaTalk can get deep into our own little echo chamber -- esp. during the leaner months of summer and early fall -- and forget to have some fun and enjoy. Hearing these memories and now hashtags have reminded me to remember that the main things about all of this is to support our Hoyas and to have some fun doing it.
The doctor is right -- we do have dawgs! And we gotta be mean (esp. on defense)! We've been underrated, so let's step up and overperform! It all starts Tuesday night -- let's have some fun and LET'S GO HOYAS!!!!!!
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 5, 2022 12:58:49 GMT -5
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 5, 2022 13:02:46 GMT -5
Thoughts about the Dante/Jay Heath situations:
The ideal would be for Dante to return to the team as soon as he is ready after the issues with his family AND that Jay finally receive the waiver and can be on the active roster - also asap.
With every day and week that passes by this close to the season opener, there is a growing possibility that neither of these things happen. Several posters and bloggers have suggested some sort of Plan B, which looks like Anglin being put into a starting role (or at least playing many more minutes than he or we anticipated before) and increased playing time -- ready or not -- for Riley and Bristol. Down side is that none of these players has experience at the PG, so it would be some serious trial by fire and require smart platooning by the coaches.
The up side (and there always is an up side) is that these younger players who will be important to our success this year will be seeing more minutes against OOC opponents. That can only help when we are deep in the season, facing tougher BE opponents, and facing a roster with more bumps and bruises.
The next best ideal is that Heath gets to play second semester and jumps in as BE play starts. Then we have an experienced PG and all that Heath brings to the team AND some backups who have seen some action. Ewing would have another option other than playing his guards like he did Dante last year. I have no doubt that Murray and Spears will play significant minutes, but having 2-3 backups who can give you quality minutes when they need a break would be big.
We hear that Riley can be a beast on the defensive end and that Denver is a premier shooter as well as a focused, able defender. I know we'll see them eventually -- Anglin likely sooner and more often than Jordan -- but the above scenario means we could see them earlier and allow them to grow and develop some, things that can only help later in the season.
I want Dante and Heath on the floor this Tuesday. I know it's not likely to happen, so I'm trying to find up sides to a tough situation. Hoyas are tough and work harder when faced with adversity. Well, here we go!
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Post by prhoya on Nov 5, 2022 16:27:00 GMT -5
Thoughts about the Dante/Jay Heath situations: The ideal would be for Dante to return to the team as soon as he is ready after the issues with his family AND that Jay finally receive the waiver and can be on the active roster - also asap. With every day and week that passes by this close to the season opener, there is a growing possibility that neither of these things happen. Several posters and bloggers have suggested some sort of Plan B, which looks like Anglin being put into a starting role (or at least playing many more minutes than he or we anticipated before) and increased playing time -- ready or not -- for Riley and Bristol. Down side is that none of these players has experience at the PG, so it would be some serious trial by fire and require smart platooning by the coaches. The up side (and there always is an up side) is that these younger players who will be important to our success this year will be seeing more minutes against OOC opponents. That can only help when we are deep in the season, facing tougher BE opponents, and facing a roster with more bumps and bruises. The next best ideal is that Heath gets to play second semester and jumps in as BE play starts. Then we have an experienced PG and all that Heath brings to the team AND some backups who have seen some action. Ewing would have another option other than playing his guards like he did Dante last year. I have no doubt that Murray and Spears will play significant minutes, but having 2-3 backups who can give you quality minutes when they need a break would be big. We hear that Riley can be a beast on the defensive end and that Denver is a premier shooter as well as a focused, able defender. I know we'll see them eventually -- Anglin likely sooner and more often than Jordan -- but the above scenario means we could see them earlier and allow them to grow and develop some, things that can only help later in the season. I want Dante and Heath on the floor this Tuesday. I know it's not likely to happen, so I'm trying to find up sides to a tough situation. Hoyas are tough and work harder when faced with adversity. Well, here we go! I don’t see that much of a problem and I want no excuses. Pat was never going to play 13 players. Denver was going to miss out on pt with Dante, Primo and Heath playing the majority of the 1 and 2 minutes. Now, Denver has the same opportunity that Dante had in his freshman year when the other Harris disappeared (and I’m a Dante fan). I want to see the best pure shooter of the nation’s freshman class go to work. Not having both players will mean that Murray will get to play more 2 than with them, but it will give one of Bristol/Jordan/Mo a huge opportunity to earn major pt at the 3. That said, I want everyone back and eligible. The more, the merrier…
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Post by Just Cos on Nov 6, 2022 1:05:31 GMT -5
11/8 at 9:30 PM PST on Spectrum in San Diego. Thought FS2 was national but maybe it does regional broadcasts. Ah, I think we are talking about two different games. The first game against Coppin State is on TV nationally. The game at issue is the November 12 game against Green Bay. That's the one on WDCA that does not appear to be nationally broadcast. Gotcha. My bad. Then I would recommend looking into a VPN and one of the services that carries WDCA (DTV Stream, fuboTV, Hulu). You can get free trials for VPN and streaming services. I haven’t done a VPN for any of those services but have successfully done it with other services.
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 6, 2022 9:43:16 GMT -5
Not familiar with how all of this works. I live in CT an am only vaguely aware of the DC TV/radio scene. I do have fuboTV, but isn't WDCA just radio? If so, is there a way to pick up WDCA radio on fubo?
I imagine that WDCA does livestream, but the issue with that is that the game may get bumped for the MD football game, right?
Thanks
WDCA (Channel 20, aka Fox5 Plus) is the scheduled TV outlet for the Green Bay game and is not available via satellite or on most cable systems outside the Washington area. WTEM-980 (available online) is likely to broadcast the game on radio as the Maryland-Penn State is a 3:30 kickoff. --Admin
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Post by BeantownHoya on Nov 6, 2022 11:57:35 GMT -5
Thoughts about the Dante/Jay Heath situations: The ideal would be for Dante to return to the team as soon as he is ready after the issues with his family AND that Jay finally receive the waiver and can be on the active roster - also asap. With every day and week that passes by this close to the season opener, there is a growing possibility that neither of these things happen. Several posters and bloggers have suggested some sort of Plan B, which looks like Anglin being put into a starting role (or at least playing many more minutes than he or we anticipated before) and increased playing time -- ready or not -- for Riley and Bristol. Down side is that none of these players has experience at the PG, so it would be some serious trial by fire and require smart platooning by the coaches. The up side (and there always is an up side) is that these younger players who will be important to our success this year will be seeing more minutes against OOC opponents. That can only help when we are deep in the season, facing tougher BE opponents, and facing a roster with more bumps and bruises. The next best ideal is that Heath gets to play second semester and jumps in as BE play starts. Then we have an experienced PG and all that Heath brings to the team AND some backups who have seen some action. Ewing would have another option other than playing his guards like he did Dante last year. I have no doubt that Murray and Spears will play significant minutes, but having 2-3 backups who can give you quality minutes when they need a break would be big. We hear that Riley can be a beast on the defensive end and that Denver is a premier shooter as well as a focused, able defender. I know we'll see them eventually -- Anglin likely sooner and more often than Jordan -- but the above scenario means we could see them earlier and allow them to grow and develop some, things that can only help later in the season. I want Dante and Heath on the floor this Tuesday. I know it's not likely to happen, so I'm trying to find up sides to a tough situation. Hoyas are tough and work harder when faced with adversity. Well, here we go! I don’t see that much of a problem and I want no excuses. Pat was never going to play 13 players. Denver was going to miss out on pt with Dante, Primo and Heath playing the majority of the 1 and 2 minutes. Now, Denver has the same opportunity that Dante had in his freshman year when the other Harris disappeared (and I’m a Dante fan). I want to see the best pure shooter of the nation’s freshman class go to work. Not having both players will mean that Murray will get to play more 2 than with them, but it will give one of Bristol/Jordan/Mo a huge opportunity to earn major pt at the 3. That said, I want everyone back and eligible. The more, the merrier… Party agree... I am a huge Anglin fan so agree I would have been one of the fans pushing for him to see the court sooner rather than later for his shooting alone. I admit I am not a big Harris guy and absolutely nothing against the kid but I think Anglin has a much bigger upside. Heath I will disagree with just for the simple fact I think he is significantly better right now than Bristol and Riley. I think there was a very good chance he was the second best scorer on this team and therefore is a big loss at least in my mind.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 6, 2022 12:14:50 GMT -5
Heath could be a valuable piece. He shot 37.6% and 35.0% from three at Boston College but on high usage. When he used less possessions at Arizona State, he shot 43% from three. Given that Murray is likely to use a lot of possessions, I don't think Heath would be super-high usage, so one would hope that his three point percentage would stay north of 40%. In other areas, he's a pretty good rebounder for a guard, and he doesn't turn it over that much. That's really valuable.
By all accounts, Anglin is a great shooter and I am looking forward to seeing him. That said, he will need to adjust to the greater distance from three in college, bigger opponents (at least in Big East play), better defenses, etc. I think there is a good chance that Anglin will be a really good shooter for us eventually, I just don't know if it will be immediate. He's a freshman and he'll need time to adjust. But, I am optimistic there.
For that reason, I don't see them as interchangeable, yet. Heath brings maturity and experience, and proven success at the high major level that Anglin simply doesn't have yet because he's so young. Of course, I'd really like both of them to be eligible.
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Post by thedragon on Nov 6, 2022 12:39:18 GMT -5
I don’t see that much of a problem and I want no excuses. Pat was never going to play 13 players. Denver was going to miss out on pt with Dante, Primo and Heath playing the majority of the 1 and 2 minutes. Now, Denver has the same opportunity that Dante had in his freshman year when the other Harris disappeared (and I’m a Dante fan). I want to see the best pure shooter of the nation’s freshman class go to work. Not having both players will mean that Murray will get to play more 2 than with them, but it will give one of Bristol/Jordan/Mo a huge opportunity to earn major pt at the 3. That said, I want everyone back and eligible. The more, the merrier… Party agree... I am a huge Anglin fan so agree I would have been one of the fans pushing for him to see the court sooner rather than later for his shooting alone. I admit I am not a big Harris guy and absolutely nothing against the kid but I think Anglin has a much bigger upside. Heath I will disagree with just for the simple fact I think he is significantly better right now than Bristol and Riley. I think there was a very good chance he was the second best scorer on this team and therefore is a big loss at least in my mind. Couldn't agree with Beantown more. People are sleeping on Heath's loss if he isn't granted the waiver. I think he was going to be the clear cut second best player on this team from a scoring perspective. The ability to put up 20 on any given night. From a glass half full perspective though - him joining the roster 2nd semester (no idea if that's realistic) might be the best of all worlds. He's gotten to practice with the team so there shouldn't be much of a feeling out period when he joins the squad. And it gives guys like Anglin/Riley/Bristol a chance at solid rotation minutes early on to see if any are ready to contribute. 2 of those 3 would've likely been relegated to mop up duty with Heath in lineup.
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 6, 2022 16:13:51 GMT -5
Not familiar with how all of this works. I live in CT an am only vaguely aware of the DC TV/radio scene. I do have fuboTV, but isn't WDCA just radio? If so, is there a way to pick up WDCA radio on fubo? I imagine that WDCA does livestream, but the issue with that is that the game may get bumped for the MD football game, right? Thanks WDCA (Channel 20, aka Fox5 Plus) is the scheduled TV outlet for the Green Bay game and is not available via satellite or on most cable systems outside the Washington area. WTEM-980 (available online) is likely to broadcast the game on radio as the Maryland-Penn State is a 3:30 kickoff. --AdminThanks very much for that -- not sure where that leaves fans outside of the DC area. So, WTEM radio? Do they stream? If the answer is there, apologies for being dense.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 6, 2022 19:23:09 GMT -5
Not familiar with how all of this works. I live in CT an am only vaguely aware of the DC TV/radio scene. I do have fuboTV, but isn't WDCA just radio? If so, is there a way to pick up WDCA radio on fubo? I imagine that WDCA does livestream, but the issue with that is that the game may get bumped for the MD football game, right? Thanks WDCA (Channel 20, aka Fox5 Plus) is the scheduled TV outlet for the Green Bay game and is not available via satellite or on most cable systems outside the Washington area. WTEM-980 (available online) is likely to broadcast the game on radio as the Maryland-Penn State is a 3:30 kickoff. --AdminThanks very much for that -- not sure where that leaves fans outside of the DC area. So, WTEM radio? Do they stream? If the answer is there, apologies for being dense. WTEM is on TuneIn Radio app. Download the app and you should be good to go. TuneIn Radio app The Team 980 & 95.9, WTEM 980 AM, Washington, DC | Free Internet Radio The Team 980 & 95.9 - Washington, DC - Listen to free internet radio, news, sports, music, and podcasts. Stream live CNN, FOX News Radio, and MSNBC. or www.audacy.com/theteam980
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