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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 10, 2023 22:06:00 GMT -5
What is Cooley’s record in the BET and NCAAs? 9-10 in the BET with a championship 3-6 in the NCAA He’s been a head coach for 17 years and been to 9 NCAA Tournament games. That’s not good.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 10, 2023 22:25:35 GMT -5
9-10 in the BET with a championship 3-6 in the NCAA He’s been a head coach for 17 years and been to 9 NCAA Tournament games. That’s not good. Haha! I see you've learned the deflection game from your buddy the good professorhoyaThe discussion is whether or not you feel Hurley's post-season record is mediocre or not?
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 10, 2023 22:32:16 GMT -5
He’s been a head coach for 17 years and been to 9 NCAA Tournament games. That’s not good. Haha! I see you've learned the deflection game from your buddy the good professorhoyaThe discussion is whether or not you feel Hurley's post-season record is mediocre or not? I don’t know why you’re bringing up Hurley. He’s been coaching in a high major conference for 3 years and gone to the NCAA Tournament every year. His team is ranked KenPom #4 this season. Seems pretty good to me. He also kicked Cooley’s ass yesterday in the Big East Tournament, but I recognize that shouldn’t impress anybody, since most coaches beat Cooley in the postseason.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 10, 2023 23:04:26 GMT -5
Haha! I see you've learned the deflection game from your buddy the good professorhoyaThe discussion is whether or not you feel Hurley's post-season record is mediocre or not? I don’t know why you’re bringing up Hurley. He’s been coaching in a high major conference for 3 years and gone to the NCAA Tournament every year. His team is ranked KenPom #4 this season. Seems pretty good to me. He also kicked Cooley’s ass yesterday in the Big East Tournament, but I recognize that shouldn’t impress anybody, since most coaches beat Cooley in the postseason. I bring up Hurley because I know that although you're a big fan of his, you can be fair in assessing his performance so far @ Uconn. Do you think taking the 4th-ranked KP team to a 4th-place regular season finish is pretty good? This isn't about Cooley, I accept that you think he's average at best..
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 11, 2023 8:02:31 GMT -5
Haha! I see you've learned the deflection game from your buddy the good professorhoya The discussion is whether or not you feel Hurley's post-season record is mediocre or not? I don’t know why you’re bringing up Hurley. He’s been coaching in a high major conference for 3 years and gone to the NCAA Tournament every year. His team is ranked KenPom #4 this season. Seems pretty good to me. He also kicked Cooley’s ass yesterday in the Big East Tournament, but I recognize that shouldn’t impress anybody, since most coaches beat Cooley in the postseason. Going into this year Hurley made the NCAAT 4 times in 13 years of coaching. And it took until year 7 to get there at URI (never did it at Wagner). This is better than Cooley how? You can hate Cooley all you want, but you lose credibility if you are going to knock Cooley for things and then look past them for Hurley. I'll add Cooley's teams are 9-1 in OT games the last 3 years (usually a sign of good coaching), while the knock on Hurley among UConn fans, is he loses every close game. Listen I don't think I can stand here and say definitively Cooley is better than Hurley or vice versa. Both have their warts as well as notable successes. But to sit here and say Hurley has been a much better coach than Cooley is just being unfair. You can't use one thing to knock Cooley, and then dismiss it as it relates to Hurley.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 11, 2023 9:00:37 GMT -5
And on the subject of making the NCAA tournament, Cooley spent five years at Fairfield in the MAAC, a one-bid league. We (almost) all agree that Pitino is the best option, and he missed the tournament at Iona last year. Hurley was at URI in the A-10, which isn’t a high-major conference, but it’s a multi-bid league.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 11, 2023 9:07:13 GMT -5
And on the subject of making the NCAA tournament, Cooley spent seven years at Fairfield in the MAAC, a one-bid league. We (almost) all agree that Pitino is the best option, and he missed the tournament at Iona last year. Hurley was at URI in the A-10, which isn’t a high-major conference, but it’s a multi-bid league. To be fair didn’t he miss it to MAAC elite 8 Shaheen Holloway and Saint Peters
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 11, 2023 9:12:02 GMT -5
And on the subject of making the NCAA tournament, Cooley spent seven years at Fairfield in the MAAC, a one-bid league. We (almost) all agree that Pitino is the best option, and he missed the tournament at Iona last year. Hurley was at URI in the A-10, which isn’t a high-major conference, but it’s a multi-bid league. To be fair didn’t he miss it to MAAC elite 8 Shaheen Holloway and Saint Peters For sure. Last year was a great year for the MAAC, to be sure. My only point is that “he couldn’t make the NCAA at Fairfield” is not exactly damning criticism.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 11, 2023 14:29:33 GMT -5
To be fair didn’t he miss it to MAAC elite 8 Shaheen Holloway and Saint Peters For sure. Last year was a great year for the MAAC, to be sure. My only point is that “he couldn’t make the NCAA at Fairfield” is not exactly damning criticism. It’s not worth arguing since that poster despises Cooley so much that nothing will convince him otherwise. Yesterday, I posted contradicting his assertion that Brey is better than Cooley in every way (which is absurd), and got no response. I get it. Cooley probably gets more adulation than his record warrants in some respects, but he’s also done a ton with very little at Providence, he peaked last year, and he put together a team this year that will likely play in the tournament when few expected that at the beginning of the season. If Cooley can make more of Georgetown’s resources and recruit better at Georgetown, I think it’s very feasible Cooley could do a better job here than there. I’m just skeptical that Cooley will leave Providence. He’s loved there, he basically has a lifetime job, and he would be starting all over here. I’d be good with his hire (though I want Pitino) but I’m concerned that we miss out on Pitino because of Jack’s incompetence, we miss out on Cooley because he stays, and we might not even get Shrewsbury.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 11, 2023 14:59:47 GMT -5
For sure. Last year was a great year for the MAAC, to be sure. My only point is that “he couldn’t make the NCAA at Fairfield” is not exactly damning criticism. It’s not worth arguing since that poster despises Cooley so much that nothing will convince him otherwise. Yesterday, I posted contradicting his assertion that Brey is better than Cooley in every way (which is absurd), and got no response. I get it. Cooley probably gets more adulation than his record warrants in some respects, but he’s also done a ton with very little at Providence, he peaked last year, and he put together a team this year that will likely play in the tournament when few expected that at the beginning of the season. If Cooley can make more of Georgetown’s resources and recruit better at Georgetown, I think it’s very feasible Cooley could do a better job here than there. I’m just skeptical that Cooley will leave Providence. He’s loved there, he basically has a lifetime job, and he would be starting all over here. I’d be good with his hire (though I want Pitino) but I’m concerned that we miss out on Pitino because of Jack’s incompetence, we miss out on Cooley because he stays, and we might not even get Shrewsbury. Basically spot-on regarding Cooley as far as I’m concerned. I think that Georgetown is basically the only job he’d seriously consider leaving PC for, but I think it would still be hard to pry him out. I suppose money is always a motivating factor, but he’s already making a very healthy salary. What would we have to do, double it? Plus pay the buyout? Are we really willing to commit that kind of cash? And (recognizing that this is a farcical question after the last six years), could the ROI possibly be high enough to justify throwing that kind of money at him?
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Post by This Just In on Mar 11, 2023 20:16:57 GMT -5
Marquette looks to be the cream of the crop They should be in play for a #1 seed
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 11, 2023 22:12:23 GMT -5
Marquette looks to be the cream of the crop They should be in play for a #1 seed Smart is a great coach. We could’ve had him.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 11, 2023 23:20:12 GMT -5
Marquette looks to be the cream of the crop They should be in play for a #1 seed Smart is a great coach. We could’ve had him. We’ll say they the same about Pitino when he’s crushing our teams at the helm of St. John’s. Fun times.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 12, 2023 4:54:46 GMT -5
The worst part is Smart probably would have been acceptable to DeGioia, so we really could have had him. As infuriating as it is that the school won’t even talk to Pitino, and wouldn’t even talk to Hurley, Smart would have checked every box. It might have taken some getting used to given the 2011 VCU history, but I think we all would have forgiven him for that once he had the Hoyas up and going.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 12, 2023 5:26:17 GMT -5
The worst part is Smart probably would have been acceptable to DeGioia, so we really could have had him. As infuriating as it is that the school won’t even talk to Pitino, and wouldn’t even talk to Hurley, Smart would have checked every box. It might have taken some getting used to given the 2011 VCU history, but I think we all would have forgiven him for that once he had the Hoyas up and going. Is there any “box” that matters besides giving us the best chance to win? If there is we are screwed in perpetuity.
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Post by hoyaroc on Mar 12, 2023 6:08:10 GMT -5
Kevin Ollie is ready come back to college basketball.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 12, 2023 6:14:47 GMT -5
The worst part is Smart probably would have been acceptable to DeGioia, so we really could have had him. As infuriating as it is that the school won’t even talk to Pitino, and wouldn’t even talk to Hurley, Smart would have checked every box. It might have taken some getting used to given the 2011 VCU history, but I think we all would have forgiven him for that once he had the Hoyas up and going. Is there any “box” that matters besides giving us the best chance to win? If there is we are screwed in perpetuity. There shouldn’t be, but there’s certainly a lot of smoke around the idea that there is . . .
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Post by This Just In on Mar 12, 2023 6:47:01 GMT -5
Marquette looks to be the cream of the crop They should be in play for a #1 seed Smart is a great coach. We could’ve had him. I know....smh at least 2x's to get him. 1st time was when he jumped from Marquette to Texas, some will say we never had a chance to get him them 2nd time was when he jumped from Texas to Marquette, some where saying he was not great due to his Texas and to give Patrick Ewing 1 more year due to winning the BET inn 2021 Really admire Marquette for ignoring the naysayers and going after him despite what happened with Texas, now they have their foreseeable future coach and we got to go get ours.
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 12, 2023 10:02:39 GMT -5
Kevin Ollie is ready come back to college basketball. Yes....I want a guy who took a NC team to an NIT the next year and then had his last two seasons be 16-17 and 14-18. He was handed a program light years ahead of ours and turned it into a loser. What is appealing about that?
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 13, 2023 16:42:30 GMT -5
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