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Post by rhw485 on Mar 24, 2022 14:47:41 GMT -5
I still don’t think recruiting was the biggest weakness. We need someone to coach up and develop the guys we have, install some semblance of an offensive and defensive scheme. I guess this is better news than Kirby being asked to return, but this feels like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. You do realize that the guy who rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic survived. I'm really trying to stay positive today, am fine with the Nickleberry hire and intrigued by the potential transfers, although a 3 person package of players seems a little too good to be true. Even if we get one of those guys I'd be thrilled. But calling out that the guy re-arranging the chairs (Ewing) survived while the ship (Gtown basketball) still sank is um...not as great a comeback as you might want it to be.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 24, 2022 15:05:59 GMT -5
You do realize that the guy who rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic survived. I'm really trying to stay positive today, am fine with the Nickleberry hire and intrigued by the potential transfers, although a 3 person package of players seems a little too good to be true. Even if we get one of those guys I'd be thrilled. But calling out that the guy re-arranging the chairs (Ewing) survived while the ship (Gtown basketball) still sank is um...not as great a comeback as you might want it to be. That assumes that Ewing is the baker instead of Georgetown Basketball. If Georgetown Basketball is the baker who rearranges the deck chairs . . .
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 24, 2022 15:53:27 GMT -5
I still don’t think recruiting was the biggest weakness. We need someone to coach up and develop the guys we have, install some semblance of an offensive and defensive scheme. I guess this is better news than Kirby being asked to return, but this feels like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. You do realize that the guy who rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic survived. Not sure where you got that he rearranged the chairs, but getting so drunk that it helped him live through the sinking is actually an apt comparison for how I feel watching our games
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 24, 2022 18:21:23 GMT -5
You do realize that the guy who rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic survived. Not sure where you got that he rearranged the chairs, but getting so drunk that it helped him live through the sinking is actually an apt comparison for how I feel watching our games "When the ship hit an iceberg on the evening of 14 April, at 23:40, Joughin was off-duty and in his bunk. According to his testimony, he felt the shock of the collision and immediately got up. Word was being passed down from the upper decks that officers were getting the lifeboats ready for launching, and Joughin sent his thirteen men up to the boat deck with provisions to the lifeboats: four loaves of bread apiece, about forty pounds of bread each. Joughin stayed behind for a time, but then followed them, reaching the Boat Deck at around 00:30.[2] He joined Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde by Lifeboat 10. Joughin helped, with stewards and other seamen, the ladies and children through to the lifeboat, although, after a while, the women on deck ran away from the boat saying they were safer aboard the Titanic. The Chief Baker then went on to A Deck and forcibly brought up women and children, throwing them into the lifeboat.[2] The Titanic's final plunge. Joughin was at the topmost part of the ship by this point. Although he was assigned as captain of Lifeboat 10, he did not board; it was already being crewed by two sailors and a steward. He went below after Lifeboat 10 had gone, and "had a drop of liqueur" (a tumbler half-full of liqueur, as he went on to specify) in his quarters. He then came upstairs again after meeting "the old doctor" (possibly William O'Loughlin, quite possibly the last time anyone ever saw him). When he arrived at the Boat Deck, all the boats had been lowered, so he went down into the A Deck promenade and threw about fifty deck chairs overboard so that they could be used as flotation devices.[2] Joughin then went into the deck pantry on A Deck to get a drink of water and, whilst there, he heard a loud crash, "as if part of the ship had buckled". He left the pantry, and joined the crowd running aft toward the poop deck. As he was crossing the well deck, the ship suddenly gave a list over to port and, according to him, threw everyone in the well in a bunch except for him. Joughin climbed to the starboard side of the poop deck, getting hold of the safety rail so that he was on the outside of the ship as it went down by the head. As the ship finally sank, Joughin rode it down as if it were an elevator, not getting his head under the water (in his words, his head "may have been wetted, but no more"). He was, thus, the last survivor to leave the Titanic.[2] The Collapsible B lifeboat is found by the CS Mackay-Bennett. According to his own testimony, he kept paddling and treading water for about two hours. He also admitted to hardly feeling the cold, most likely thanks to the alcohol he had imbibed. When daylight broke, he spotted the upturned Collapsible B lifeboat, with Second Officer Charles Lightoller and around 30 men standing on the side of the boat. Joughin slowly swam towards it, but there was no room for him. A man, however, cook Isaac Maynard, recognized him and held his hand as the Chief Baker held onto the side of the boat, with his feet and legs still in the water. Another lifeboat then appeared and Joughin swam to it and was taken in, where he stayed until he boarded the RMS Carpathia that had come to their rescue. He was rescued from the sea with only swollen feet.[2] According to his obituary he was also on board the SS Oregon when it sank in Boston Harbor in 1886" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin
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Post by 617hoya on Mar 24, 2022 18:25:06 GMT -5
Not sure where you got that he rearranged the chairs, but getting so drunk that it helped him live through the sinking is actually an apt comparison for how I feel watching our games "When the ship hit an iceberg on the evening of 14 April, at 23:40, Joughin was off-duty and in his bunk. According to his testimony, he felt the shock of the collision and immediately got up. Word was being passed down from the upper decks that officers were getting the lifeboats ready for launching, and Joughin sent his thirteen men up to the boat deck with provisions to the lifeboats: four loaves of bread apiece, about forty pounds of bread each. Joughin stayed behind for a time, but then followed them, reaching the Boat Deck at around 00:30.[2] He joined Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde by Lifeboat 10. Joughin helped, with stewards and other seamen, the ladies and children through to the lifeboat, although, after a while, the women on deck ran away from the boat saying they were safer aboard the Titanic. The Chief Baker then went on to A Deck and forcibly brought up women and children, throwing them into the lifeboat.[2] The Titanic's final plunge. Joughin was at the topmost part of the ship by this point. Although he was assigned as captain of Lifeboat 10, he did not board; it was already being crewed by two sailors and a steward. He went below after Lifeboat 10 had gone, and "had a drop of liqueur" (a tumbler half-full of liqueur, as he went on to specify) in his quarters. He then came upstairs again after meeting "the old doctor" (possibly William O'Loughlin, quite possibly the last time anyone ever saw him). When he arrived at the Boat Deck, all the boats had been lowered, so he went down into the A Deck promenade and threw about fifty deck chairs overboard so that they could be used as flotation devices.[2] Joughin then went into the deck pantry on A Deck to get a drink of water and, whilst there, he heard a loud crash, "as if part of the ship had buckled". He left the pantry, and joined the crowd running aft toward the poop deck. As he was crossing the well deck, the ship suddenly gave a list over to port and, according to him, threw everyone in the well in a bunch except for him. Joughin climbed to the starboard side of the poop deck, getting hold of the safety rail so that he was on the outside of the ship as it went down by the head. As the ship finally sank, Joughin rode it down as if it were an elevator, not getting his head under the water (in his words, his head "may have been wetted, but no more"). He was, thus, the last survivor to leave the Titanic.[2] The Collapsible B lifeboat is found by the CS Mackay-Bennett. According to his own testimony, he kept paddling and treading water for about two hours. He also admitted to hardly feeling the cold, most likely thanks to the alcohol he had imbibed. When daylight broke, he spotted the upturned Collapsible B lifeboat, with Second Officer Charles Lightoller and around 30 men standing on the side of the boat. Joughin slowly swam towards it, but there was no room for him. A man, however, cook Isaac Maynard, recognized him and held his hand as the Chief Baker held onto the side of the boat, with his feet and legs still in the water. Another lifeboat then appeared and Joughin swam to it and was taken in, where he stayed until he boarded the RMS Carpathia that had come to their rescue. He was rescued from the sea with only swollen feet.[2] According to his obituary he was also on board the SS Oregon when it sank in Boston Harbor in 1886" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin No one needed this whole essay here. Come on.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 24, 2022 18:36:32 GMT -5
Thanks professor.
Still think we needed a better solution like building the watertight bulkheads all the way up or making the ship double hulled instead of just rearranging deck chairs.
Either way I’m begrudgingly back on board and ready to go down with the ship.
Ok I’m done with the Titanic comparisons lol
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Post by kghoya on Mar 24, 2022 18:41:17 GMT -5
Not sure where you got that he rearranged the chairs, but getting so drunk that it helped him live through the sinking is actually an apt comparison for how I feel watching our games "When the ship hit an iceberg on the evening of 14 April, at 23:40, Joughin was off-duty and in his bunk. According to his testimony, he felt the shock of the collision and immediately got up. Word was being passed down from the upper decks that officers were getting the lifeboats ready for launching, and Joughin sent his thirteen men up to the boat deck with provisions to the lifeboats: four loaves of bread apiece, about forty pounds of bread each. Joughin stayed behind for a time, but then followed them, reaching the Boat Deck at around 00:30.[2] He joined Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde by Lifeboat 10. Joughin helped, with stewards and other seamen, the ladies and children through to the lifeboat, although, after a while, the women on deck ran away from the boat saying they were safer aboard the Titanic. The Chief Baker then went on to A Deck and forcibly brought up women and children, throwing them into the lifeboat.[2] The Titanic's final plunge. Joughin was at the topmost part of the ship by this point. Although he was assigned as captain of Lifeboat 10, he did not board; it was already being crewed by two sailors and a steward. He went below after Lifeboat 10 had gone, and "had a drop of liqueur" (a tumbler half-full of liqueur, as he went on to specify) in his quarters. He then came upstairs again after meeting "the old doctor" (possibly William O'Loughlin, quite possibly the last time anyone ever saw him). When he arrived at the Boat Deck, all the boats had been lowered, so he went down into the A Deck promenade and threw about fifty deck chairs overboard so that they could be used as flotation devices.[2] Joughin then went into the deck pantry on A Deck to get a drink of water and, whilst there, he heard a loud crash, "as if part of the ship had buckled". He left the pantry, and joined the crowd running aft toward the poop deck. As he was crossing the well deck, the ship suddenly gave a list over to port and, according to him, threw everyone in the well in a bunch except for him. Joughin climbed to the starboard side of the poop deck, getting hold of the safety rail so that he was on the outside of the ship as it went down by the head. As the ship finally sank, Joughin rode it down as if it were an elevator, not getting his head under the water (in his words, his head "may have been wetted, but no more"). He was, thus, the last survivor to leave the Titanic.[2] The Collapsible B lifeboat is found by the CS Mackay-Bennett. According to his own testimony, he kept paddling and treading water for about two hours. He also admitted to hardly feeling the cold, most likely thanks to the alcohol he had imbibed. When daylight broke, he spotted the upturned Collapsible B lifeboat, with Second Officer Charles Lightoller and around 30 men standing on the side of the boat. Joughin slowly swam towards it, but there was no room for him. A man, however, cook Isaac Maynard, recognized him and held his hand as the Chief Baker held onto the side of the boat, with his feet and legs still in the water. Another lifeboat then appeared and Joughin swam to it and was taken in, where he stayed until he boarded the RMS Carpathia that had come to their rescue. He was rescued from the sea with only swollen feet.[2] According to his obituary he was also on board the SS Oregon when it sank in Boston Harbor in 1886" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_JoughinIncredible
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2022 19:44:34 GMT -5
Wikipedia is always my first go to source for everything.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 24, 2022 19:47:40 GMT -5
I prefer Truth Social. . .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 21:13:47 GMT -5
Wikipedia is always my first go to source for everything. Including diagnoses? 😉
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2022 21:17:55 GMT -5
Wikipedia is always my first go to source for everything. Including diagnoses? 😉 Nah, use the dart board for those
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 25, 2022 1:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by LoudSoundOfREBOUND on Mar 25, 2022 7:20:03 GMT -5
Not to rehash a story from the previous news cycle, but does the Nickelberry hire fit the bill of "keeping it in the family?" I ask honestly, as I don't know much about him other than his previous ties to DC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2022 8:00:45 GMT -5
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 25, 2022 9:33:19 GMT -5
"When the ship hit an iceberg on the evening of 14 April, at 23:40, Joughin was off-duty and in his bunk. According to his testimony, he felt the shock of the collision and immediately got up. Word was being passed down from the upper decks that officers were getting the lifeboats ready for launching, and Joughin sent his thirteen men up to the boat deck with provisions to the lifeboats: four loaves of bread apiece, about forty pounds of bread each. Joughin stayed behind for a time, but then followed them, reaching the Boat Deck at around 00:30.[2] He joined Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde by Lifeboat 10. Joughin helped, with stewards and other seamen, the ladies and children through to the lifeboat, although, after a while, the women on deck ran away from the boat saying they were safer aboard the Titanic. The Chief Baker then went on to A Deck and forcibly brought up women and children, throwing them into the lifeboat.[2] The Titanic's final plunge. Joughin was at the topmost part of the ship by this point. Although he was assigned as captain of Lifeboat 10, he did not board; it was already being crewed by two sailors and a steward. He went below after Lifeboat 10 had gone, and "had a drop of liqueur" (a tumbler half-full of liqueur, as he went on to specify) in his quarters. He then came upstairs again after meeting "the old doctor" (possibly William O'Loughlin, quite possibly the last time anyone ever saw him). When he arrived at the Boat Deck, all the boats had been lowered, so he went down into the A Deck promenade and threw about fifty deck chairs overboard so that they could be used as flotation devices.[2] Joughin then went into the deck pantry on A Deck to get a drink of water and, whilst there, he heard a loud crash, "as if part of the ship had buckled". He left the pantry, and joined the crowd running aft toward the poop deck. As he was crossing the well deck, the ship suddenly gave a list over to port and, according to him, threw everyone in the well in a bunch except for him. Joughin climbed to the starboard side of the poop deck, getting hold of the safety rail so that he was on the outside of the ship as it went down by the head. As the ship finally sank, Joughin rode it down as if it were an elevator, not getting his head under the water (in his words, his head "may have been wetted, but no more"). He was, thus, the last survivor to leave the Titanic.[2] The Collapsible B lifeboat is found by the CS Mackay-Bennett. According to his own testimony, he kept paddling and treading water for about two hours. He also admitted to hardly feeling the cold, most likely thanks to the alcohol he had imbibed. When daylight broke, he spotted the upturned Collapsible B lifeboat, with Second Officer Charles Lightoller and around 30 men standing on the side of the boat. Joughin slowly swam towards it, but there was no room for him. A man, however, cook Isaac Maynard, recognized him and held his hand as the Chief Baker held onto the side of the boat, with his feet and legs still in the water. Another lifeboat then appeared and Joughin swam to it and was taken in, where he stayed until he boarded the RMS Carpathia that had come to their rescue. He was rescued from the sea with only swollen feet.[2] According to his obituary he was also on board the SS Oregon when it sank in Boston Harbor in 1886" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin No one needed this whole essay here. Come on. You could have just said: TL-DR I enjoyed reading it.
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Post by hoya73 on Mar 25, 2022 9:34:29 GMT -5
Nah, use the dart board for those I'm a Magic 8 Ball guy.
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Post by guru on Mar 25, 2022 9:36:30 GMT -5
With so many issues dividing this dwindling fanbase, I think we can all agree that this picture looks ridiculous.
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Post by DudeSlade on Mar 25, 2022 10:15:49 GMT -5
What are they selling at this time? When Willard is his staff hits the road, I’d bet my house the 1st thing he’s gonna talk about is how he’s gotten kids better. There’s not a better sales pitch than that in my view Money is a better sales pitch for a lot of players. It's why LSU recruited so well with Wade and his assistants. They also underperformed wildly on the court because typically 18 year old kids motivated by being paid in college instead of winning and getting better don't perform as well as 21 and 22 year olds looking to win championships. This is the part I always wondered about in recruiting. But now it's all out in the open with NIL. I have only one friend in the college bball world (which means exactly zero), but his comment even last year was the only conversations being had with recruits are about NIL, it's the whole recruiting game now. This is a team still in the NCAA Tournament and in it for the top recruits, so I suspect it's true at many/all top programs. So... hopefully Nickleberry learned a thing or two at LSU about NIL (they seemed to be quite good at it for at least their football team), because we clearly did a junk job of that last year and we should have a ton of potential for it in DC.
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Post by TC on Mar 25, 2022 10:55:30 GMT -5
This is the part I always wondered about in recruiting. But now it's all out in the open with NIL. I have only one friend in the college bball world (which means exactly zero), but his comment even last year was the only conversations being had with recruits are about NIL, it's the whole recruiting game now. This is a team still in the NCAA Tournament and in it for the top recruits, so I suspect it's true at many/all top programs. So... hopefully Nickleberry learned a thing or two at LSU about NIL (they seemed to be quite good at it for at least their football team), because we clearly did a junk job of that last year and we should have a ton of potential for it in DC. Other than Crouch, our staff is a bunch of dinosaurs that can't even use Twitter or IG (Nickelberry isn't very active either). I can't see how they are going to master NIL and branding in a year.
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Post by Filo on Mar 25, 2022 11:47:50 GMT -5
This is the part I always wondered about in recruiting. But now it's all out in the open with NIL. I have only one friend in the college bball world (which means exactly zero), but his comment even last year was the only conversations being had with recruits are about NIL, it's the whole recruiting game now. This is a team still in the NCAA Tournament and in it for the top recruits, so I suspect it's true at many/all top programs. So... hopefully Nickleberry learned a thing or two at LSU about NIL (they seemed to be quite good at it for at least their football team), because we clearly did a junk job of that last year and we should have a ton of potential for it in DC. Other than Crouch, our staff is a bunch of dinosaurs that can't even use Twitter or IG (Nickelberry isn't very active either). I can't see how they are going to master NIL and branding in a year. I was going to reply and say that their age doesn't really matter in this regard, and they can get up to speed on NIL and stuff like that. But then I realized that I am just a couple years younger than Ewing and I still can't wrap by head around NIL, NFT, etc. So, you may have a point...
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