hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 21, 2022 6:57:39 GMT -5
5-7 conference wins will not get us in the tournament. We would need at least 10. They didn't say the Ewing fans would be doing victory laps for making the tourney. They said that they would spout off about the improvement from 0Ws to around 5-6Ws....
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 21, 2022 7:14:33 GMT -5
If Gtown’s OOC schedule has 5 P6 opponents( Oregon State, Creighton, Iowa, Memphis & Xavier)on it very few of us will complain, especially if Gtown wins all those games like Iowa State did.. Where are you getting your SOS numbers from? I can’t find any that shows Iowa State at 272, according to Sports Reference they were #13 on the list. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/iowa-state/2022-schedule.htmlOOC Strength of Schedule... Okay, got it. I still don’t see them ranked that low, do you have the link? Do you really think having the 5 teams above in their OOC was bad?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 7:30:18 GMT -5
OOC Strength of Schedule... Okay, got it. I still don’t see them ranked that low, do you have the link? Do you really think having the 5 teams above in their OOC was bad? www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/sos-net(Sorry Zeke, didn’t mean to hijack. I’m in the “we need a new coach” camp but the recency bias the tournament creates definitely can get folks a bit skewed on reality. See Holloway, Shaheen.)
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 21, 2022 7:30:30 GMT -5
Going after him? That’s what happened and I assumed it was common knowledge. In its report, the NCAA committee said: “A head coach does not promote compliance when he intentionally ignores committee penalties directed at him for intentional rules violations. A head coach also does not promote compliance when he himself commits intentional violations. This is particularly true when he commits these violations with the knowledge and assistance of a coach on his staff." www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=3725832amp.usatoday.com/amp/7053219002Thank you for the links about the telephone calls, and I’m sorry for not recalling the initial 2008 stuff. I’ll try to check the lying part for myself. No worries. ESPN article includes the lying allegations: The most serious charge against Sampson was that he provided false information to NCAA enforcement staff members and Indiana compliance officers, something the coach has denied.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Mar 21, 2022 7:34:37 GMT -5
Always sad to see the refs decide a tournament game. If he didn’t act like someone shot him from the book depository he might have gotten the call. Not fair and in advance I’ll admit probably a bad take, but I’m ok with some missed calls to try to get rid of that crap from college basketball. Now if I was a TCU fan… hm
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 21, 2022 8:32:04 GMT -5
Okay, got it. I still don’t see them ranked that low, do you have the link? Do you really think having the 5 teams above in their OOC was bad? www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/sos-net(Sorry Zeke, didn’t mean to hijack. I’m in the “we need a new coach” camp but the recency bias the tournament creates definitely can get folks a bit skewed on reality. See Holloway, Shaheen.) No problem. I'm neutral but definitely more towards staying the course. I want to see next year play out with these players with more experience...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 21, 2022 8:55:58 GMT -5
Good for Providence and the conference. 2 teams in the sweet 16 isn't bad. That is tied with the Pac 10. Ahead of the B1G and SEC. The ACC got in 3 as did the Big 12. Frankly I think Providence can get by Kansas and get to the final four. The conference could use someone other than Villanova to carry the weight even if just for a year. There is no doubt that the old teams have a huge advantage.
It is also shocking to see how much raw talent Duke has. I doubt they win it but K has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. Williams really sets the D tone for them and then on O they just turn loose one of Keels, Roach, Banchero, Griffin, or Moore. I felt the same way watching Carolina as guys that we would have loved to get are riding pine for them like Walton. Those guys will start to play in year three and that is the key to success. We gotta get old.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 21, 2022 11:10:35 GMT -5
Good for Providence and the conference. 2 teams in the sweet 16 isn't bad. That is tied with the Pac 10. Ahead of the B1G and SEC. The ACC got in 3 as did the Big 12. Frankly I think Providence can get by Kansas and get to the final four. The conference could use someone other than Villanova to carry the weight even if just for a year. There is no doubt that the old teams have a huge advantage. It is also shocking to see how much raw talent Duke has. I doubt they win it but K has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. Williams really sets the D tone for them and then on O they just turn loose one of Keels, Roach, Banchero, Griffin, or Moore. I felt the same way watching Carolina as guys that we would have loved to get are riding pine for them like Walton. Those guys will start to play in year three and that is the key to success. We gotta get old. The only way to get old is to retain players. Now that means giving Pat another 2-3 years. How many failed chances can we afford to give?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 21, 2022 11:17:47 GMT -5
Good for Providence and the conference. 2 teams in the sweet 16 isn't bad. That is tied with the Pac 10. Ahead of the B1G and SEC. The ACC got in 3 as did the Big 12. Frankly I think Providence can get by Kansas and get to the final four. The conference could use someone other than Villanova to carry the weight even if just for a year. There is no doubt that the old teams have a huge advantage. It is also shocking to see how much raw talent Duke has. I doubt they win it but K has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. Williams really sets the D tone for them and then on O they just turn loose one of Keels, Roach, Banchero, Griffin, or Moore. I felt the same way watching Carolina as guys that we would have loved to get are riding pine for them like Walton. Those guys will start to play in year three and that is the key to success. We gotta get old. The only way to get old is to retain players. Now that means giving Pat another 2-3 years. How many failed chances can we afford to give? Apparently a lot!
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 21, 2022 19:55:27 GMT -5
Good for Providence and the conference. 2 teams in the sweet 16 isn't bad. That is tied with the Pac 10. Ahead of the B1G and SEC. The ACC got in 3 as did the Big 12. Frankly I think Providence can get by Kansas and get to the final four. The conference could use someone other than Villanova to carry the weight even if just for a year. There is no doubt that the old teams have a huge advantage. It is also shocking to see how much raw talent Duke has. I doubt they win it but K has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. Williams really sets the D tone for them and then on O they just turn loose one of Keels, Roach, Banchero, Griffin, or Moore. I felt the same way watching Carolina as guys that we would have loved to get are riding pine for them like Walton. Those guys will start to play in year three and that is the key to success. We gotta get old. Providence won't make the Final Four, because Ed Cooley can't coach. Also, I may be a bit late on this, but I want to give major props to Creighton for its valiant short-handed effort against Kansas.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 21, 2022 21:39:35 GMT -5
Always sad to see the refs decide a tournament game. If he didn’t act like someone shot him from the book depository he might have gotten the call. Not fair and in advance I’ll admit probably a bad take, but I’m ok with some missed calls to try to get rid of that crap from college basketball. Now if I was a TCU fan… hm TCU had multiple opportunities to win that game at the end of regulation and melted down.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 21, 2022 21:42:34 GMT -5
Good for Providence and the conference. 2 teams in the sweet 16 isn't bad. That is tied with the Pac 10. Ahead of the B1G and SEC. The ACC got in 3 as did the Big 12. Frankly I think Providence can get by Kansas and get to the final four. The conference could use someone other than Villanova to carry the weight even if just for a year. There is no doubt that the old teams have a huge advantage. It is also shocking to see how much raw talent Duke has. I doubt they win it but K has an embarrassment of riches at his disposal. Williams really sets the D tone for them and then on O they just turn loose one of Keels, Roach, Banchero, Griffin, or Moore. I felt the same way watching Carolina as guys that we would have loved to get are riding pine for them like Walton. Those guys will start to play in year three and that is the key to success. We gotta get old. Yeah, weren't TCU and Houston assembled upperclass talent. That is the way to go. With the One Free Transfer rule you cannot plan or develop players for 3-4 years because if they are too good they go pro, and anything short of that they can leave whenever they want. Duke has alot of talent but are in the same bracket as Gonzaga, so that makes it tough to bet on either one winning the tournament.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 21:43:43 GMT -5
If he didn’t act like someone shot him from the book depository he might have gotten the call. Not fair and in advance I’ll admit probably a bad take, but I’m ok with some missed calls to try to get rid of that crap from college basketball. Now if I was a TCU fan… hm TCU had multiple opportunities to win that game at the end of regulation and melted down. I wouldn't argue that, but the refs clearly swallowed their whistle on that play, Sure, let's say "we don't want to decide a tournament game on foul shots." But that's still a foul 90 seconds earlier. Not a good thing.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 21, 2022 21:44:13 GMT -5
Always sad to see the refs decide a tournament game. He also was trapped by the double team and the center court line and was going to cross that line if he didn't flail. His mistake was allowing himself to get to that point, should have recognized the trap and gotten rid of the ball earlier.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 21:46:00 GMT -5
Always sad to see the refs decide a tournament game. He also was trapped by the double team and the center court line and was going to cross that line if he didn't flail. His mistake was allowing himself to get to that point, should have recognized the trap and gotten rid of the ball earlier. That's really not relevant.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 21, 2022 21:46:56 GMT -5
TCU had multiple opportunities to win that game at the end of regulation and melted down. I wouldn't argue that, but the refs clearly swallowed their whistle on that play, Sure, let's say "we don't want to decide a tournament game on foul shots." But that's still a foul 90 seconds earlier. Not a good thing. He essentially looks like he is going to commit a backcourt violation. In fact his foot is on the line and the ball over the line before he gets pushed and flails to the ground.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 23, 2022 20:50:14 GMT -5
If he didn’t act like someone shot him from the book depository he might have gotten the call. Not fair and in advance I’ll admit probably a bad take, but I’m ok with some missed calls to try to get rid of that crap from college basketball. Now if I was a TCU fan… hm TCU had multiple opportunities to win that game at the end of regulation and melted down. I actually thought it was Arizona that had melted down over about the five minute stretch prior to scoring the five points in the last minute. It would have been nice if with all their size they could have gotten a defensive rebound, or if someone, anyone, could have made a shot.
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