hoyas212
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Post by hoyas212 on Feb 26, 2022 17:54:52 GMT -5
Next article should be about what does DOBO Howze actually do and was he hired by RT without an actual transparent application and hiring process? And were there any reasons why he was hired for this position (other than his Thompson ties) when nearly every other program hires a young up and comer for the role? This role should be held by someone like Tyler Adams or Austin Freeman. It’s a travesty to waste this position on someone who isn’t even on the bench for games. Compare how vocal Scott Greenman was during games and time outs under JT3 to Howze playing on his phone in the 3rd row. This is a very important job on a staff. A description of the role is in the below article about a former Terp DOBO: ambitious and young with ties to PVI, St Johns, and Takeover. Maybe Howze was texting recruits throughout the UConn game, but more likely was playing wordle. www.testudotimes.com/platform/amp/2014/5/21/5738070/director-of-basketball-operations-job-description
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 26, 2022 20:33:09 GMT -5
Next article should be about what does DOBO Howze actually do and was he hired by RT without an actual transparent application and hiring process? And were there any reasons why he was hired for this position (other than his Thompson ties) when nearly every other program hires a young up and comer for the role? This role should be held by someone like Tyler Adams or Austin Freeman. It’s a travesty to waste this position on someone who isn’t even on the bench for games. Compare how vocal Scott Greenman was during games and time outs under JT3 to Howze playing on his phone in the 3rd row. This is a very important job on a staff. A description of the role is in the below article about a former Terp DOBO: ambitious and young with ties to PVI, St Johns, and Takeover. Maybe Howze was texting recruits throughout the UConn game, but more likely was playing wordle. www.testudotimes.com/platform/amp/2014/5/21/5738070/director-of-basketball-operations-job-descriptionHowze is the same age as Ronny (52; HS class of 1988) and they likely played basketball together in summer leagues. Howze played at Carroll, Ronny at Flint Hill. FWIW on a slow night, the grad dates of the other Big East DOBO's: Villanova: Joey Flannery (Babson 2017) Xavier: Chaese Vaudrin (Geneva 2017) DePaul: Patrick Scully (Oregon, 2017) Marquette: Noreen Walsh (Marquette, 2016) UConn: Eric Youngcogski (URI, 2016) Butler: Jay Shennar (Michigan, 2014) Seton Hall: Kyle Smith (Iona 2012) ------------ Providence: Kevin Kurbec (Providence, 2002) St. John's: Zendon Hamilton (St. John's 1998) Creighton: Jeff Vanderloo (Morningside, 1985, has been DOBO all 11 years McDermott was coach)
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Post by prhoya on Feb 26, 2022 20:36:23 GMT -5
And were there any reasons why he was hired for this position (other than his Thompson ties) when nearly every other program hires a young up and comer for the role? This role should be held by someone like Tyler Adams or Austin Freeman. It’s a travesty to waste this position on someone who isn’t even on the bench for games. Compare how vocal Scott Greenman was during games and time outs under JT3 to Howze playing on his phone in the 3rd row. This is a very important job on a staff. A description of the role is in the below article about a former Terp DOBO: ambitious and young with ties to PVI, St Johns, and Takeover. Maybe Howze was texting recruits throughout the UConn game, but more likely was playing wordle. www.testudotimes.com/platform/amp/2014/5/21/5738070/director-of-basketball-operations-job-descriptionHowze is the same age as Ronny (52; HS class of 1988) and they likely played basketball together in summer leagues. Howze played at Carroll, Ronny at Flint Hill. FWIW on a slow night, the grad dates of the other Big East DOBO's: Villanova: Joey Flannery (Babson 2017) Xavier: Chaese Vaudrin (Geneva 2017) DePaul: Patrick Scully (Oregon, 2017) Marquette: Noreen Walsh (Marquette, 2016) UConn: Eric Youngcogski (URI, 2016) Butler: Jay Shennar (Michigan, 2014) Seton Hall: Kyle Smith (Iona 2012) ------------ Providence: Kevin Kurbec (Providence, 2002) St. John's: Zendon Hamilton (St. John's 1998) Creighton: Jeff Vanderloo (Morningside, 1985, has been DOBO all 11 years McDermott was coach) Clean slate!
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Feb 26, 2022 21:29:47 GMT -5
Students - if you care about the program, please stand up in the red square!
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 27, 2022 2:19:26 GMT -5
I t Are you serious, writing this today?
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2022 2:39:10 GMT -5
Of course. It’s a form of censorship by targeting a specific media source, just like Putin’s Russia. Pat gets another chance today with the UCon post-game presser. We shall see if HH is allowed to ask a question.
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Post by jwp91 on Feb 27, 2022 7:35:11 GMT -5
Of course. It’s a form of censorship by targeting a specific media source, just like Putin’s Russia. Pat gets another chance today with the UCon post-game presser. We shall see if HH is allowed to ask a question. I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 27, 2022 8:55:48 GMT -5
In thinking about this article again this morning, I guess I’ll note one reason for optimism and one reason for pessimism. I’m optimistic that at least some of the folks around the basketball program realize there’s a real problem here and that we need to modernize the program. A lot of these quotes make very clear that these folks know how bad this season has been and that big fixes are needed. It suggests to me that at least everyone at the University isn’t living in some sort of fantasy in which they are oblivious to the problems.
My reason for pessimism, though, is it basically confirms a big part of my skepticism surrounding our ability to make the right changes now. Good or bad, it definitely seems like Ron Thompson is part of the old way of doing things. If we fired Ewing, though, I could easily see the University leadership looking to him for ideas on candidates and how to fix the program. It’s why I have been so reluctant to recommend a change until the last few days. I don’t have confidence that the University has the people in place to make the right decisions for a true reset. This article didn’t assuage those concerns, it reinforced them.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 27, 2022 9:22:06 GMT -5
Great article!!
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 27, 2022 22:34:17 GMT -5
Apparently our Chief of Staff was double dipping again today. During our senior day Ronny was busy with his other job announcing the GW vs GMU game. How can this be allowed by the University. The guy apparently has an office on campus yet can have a secondary job that he works while the team is active!?
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Post by bearsandbulls on Feb 27, 2022 22:44:53 GMT -5
Poorly written article... Heck, I couldn't even get halfway through it. That's probably why they would allow questions from him... Just my opinion... Read the whole thing. Sounds reasonable. Needs verification. But you must be a "family" member or just plain kiss arse. It's starting to sound like there is a real inner circle here, and if so boy are the Hoyas in trouble. You can love G'town, but not the control factor exhibited as implied. As we have proudly exhibited at my alma mater in the City of Berkeley, "Question Authority". Troubles on the Potomac I smell.
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 27, 2022 22:52:24 GMT -5
Of course. It’s a form of censorship by targeting a specific media source, just like Putin’s Russia. Pat gets another chance today with the UCon post-game presser. We shall see if HH is allowed to ask a question. My apologies, I was out of line. Obviously, Putin's Russia and Georgetown Basketball are eerily similar, especially now.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2022 23:09:08 GMT -5
Of course. It’s a form of censorship by targeting a specific media source, just like Putin’s Russia. Pat gets another chance today with the UCon post-game presser. We shall see if HH is allowed to ask a question. My apologies, I was out of line. Obviously, Putin's Russia and Georgetown Basketball are eerily similar, especially now. We are all Ukraine.
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 27, 2022 23:21:09 GMT -5
My apologies, I was out of line. Obviously, Putin's Russia and Georgetown Basketball are eerily similar, especially now. We are all Ukraine. Hear!! Hear!! well done, prhoya. you just posterized me. I now know you wear Axe Musk body spray... but not today..lol
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Post by prhoya on Feb 27, 2022 23:46:35 GMT -5
Apparently our Chief of Staff was double dipping again today. During our senior day Ronny was busy with his other job announcing the GW vs GMU game. How can this be allowed by the University. The guy apparently has an office on campus yet can have a secondary job that he works while the team is active!?
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Post by b52legend on Feb 28, 2022 7:48:11 GMT -5
Good article and I appreciated reading it. I wonder if the take away though isn’t and indictment of RT or administrators, but rather Ewing’s ineffectiveness as head man. First, before taking our head job Ewing had never been the head coach anywhere or ever been in charge of a program. He likely never had anyone report to him and was responsible for little in terms of logistics. It may have been, and be, that someone like RT was needed to keep the program running with Ewing’s lack of experience. Secondly, the fact that conflict within the organization may have led some to leave reflects poorly on Ewing’s leadership, if true. Regardless, there needs to be a full house cleaning at this point.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 28, 2022 8:07:32 GMT -5
Not defending RT as it’s still anyone’s guess what his exact role is in the basketball program, but the “scandal” of him calling A10 games is a bit overblown. There are other examples of university employees having 2 jobs at once. For instance, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_LunardiSensational, yes. Relevant, who knows? Lunardi clearly puts a ton of effort into his side job. If the employers approve it, fine. The relevant question is what are the duties in the university job and are they being done effectively. The former is entirely speculative to everyone here and the latter is assumed to be no without much evidence.
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Post by practice on Feb 28, 2022 8:19:03 GMT -5
I for one am a big fan of Ronny focusing on his broadcasting career. I wish him only the best ... let's face it, meddling full-time w/in the basketball program is probably the one reason why he's not as bit as Jay Bilas. Go for it Ronny! Go all the way!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 28, 2022 9:07:36 GMT -5
Not defending RT as it’s still anyone’s guess what his exact role is in the basketball program, but the “scandal” of him calling A10 games is a bit overblown. There are other examples of university employees having 2 jobs at once. For instance, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_LunardiSensational, yes. Relevant, who knows? Lunardi clearly puts a ton of effort into his side job. If the employers approve it, fine. The relevant question is what are the duties in the university job and are they being done effectively. The former is entirely speculative to everyone here and the latter is assumed to be no without much evidence. Dan, the Ronny stuff makes my blood boil. Appearances matter. If his job description involves the team, then at a bare minimum he needs to be taking in every aspect of the team during games to figure out what can be done better and more efficiently. If he has nothing to do with the roster & in-game stuff, what about alumni relations? Maybe fan experience? Maybe making recruits feel special to be part of this Thompson legacy environment we have cultivated intentionally or otherwise. If we were running a successful program and he had a side gig, that is one thing. But we are not. If he is a media liaison (reasonable to assume with his side gig), why don' you cultivate those channels to get us more coverage that isn't just about the downfall of the program and the firing of our coach. If his job is anything more then booking hotels for travel, he needs to be a presence and he is not. That is the issue. He needs to go. Hell, he could have just been part of the 25+ former hoyas who were on the court at half time, he opted out of that too.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 28, 2022 9:15:49 GMT -5
Not defending RT as it’s still anyone’s guess what his exact role is in the basketball program, but the “scandal” of him calling A10 games is a bit overblown. There are other examples of university employees having 2 jobs at once. For instance, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_LunardiSensational, yes. Relevant, who knows? Lunardi clearly puts a ton of effort into his side job. If the employers approve it, fine. The relevant question is what are the duties in the university job and are they being done effectively. The former is entirely speculative to everyone here and the latter is assumed to be no without much evidence. Dan, the Ronny stuff makes my blood boil. Appearances matter. If his job description involves the team, then at a bare minimum he needs to be taking in every aspect of the team during games to figure out what can be done better and more efficiently. If he has nothing to do with the roster & in-game stuff, what about alumni relations? Maybe fan experience? Maybe making recruits feel special to be part of this Thompson legacy environment we have cultivated intentionally or otherwise. If we were running a successful program and he had a side gig, that is one thing. But we are not. If he is a media liaison (reasonable to assume with his side gig), why don' you cultivate those channels to get us more coverage that isn't just about the downfall of the program and the firing of our coach. If his job is anything more then booking hotels for travel, he needs to be a presence and he is not. That is the issue. He needs to go. Hell, he could have just been part of the 25+ former hoyas who were on the court at half time, he opted out of that too. Booking of hotels and travel arrangements are the DOBO's responsibility, isn't it?! Not the so-called "Chief of Staff"!
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