hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Dec 29, 2021 15:14:31 GMT -5
Good point. Who knows if Georgetown will go remote for next semester. If so, the balance probably does become easier. No doubt, playing 3 games a week is a lot for our guys and taxing academically. But, to some extent, our guys are already used to that type of schedule, even when they do not play games they are still practicing/training for much of the week anyway, and no doubt our guys want to play the games. We are really talking about a pretty short period though, if you think about it. It's basically January (part of which has already been cancelled, and part of which has no classes) February, and the first week of March. Then it goes into normal postseason. And the semester doesn't end until May. So, I get that it's really tough on the kids, but I think it's navigable. I would even go so far as to advocate for a double-header of sorts on consecutive weekend days, if it was feasible (which might be easier from a academic standpoint). But, that's probably even less likely than the three games a week! Georgetown won't go remote next semester - it needs the room/board money of people being on campus and there's a huge difference between vaccinated college kids being COVID-positive and actually sick. Yeah that was readily apparent when they forced all students on campus to get a meal plan, at worst remote classes but they “let” students stay on campus
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 29, 2021 15:21:15 GMT -5
Good point. Who knows if Georgetown will go remote for next semester. If so, the balance probably does become easier. No doubt, playing 3 games a week is a lot for our guys and taxing academically. But, to some extent, our guys are already used to that type of schedule, even when they do not play games they are still practicing/training for much of the week anyway, and no doubt our guys want to play the games. We are really talking about a pretty short period though, if you think about it. It's basically January (part of which has already been cancelled, and part of which has no classes) February, and the first week of March. Then it goes into normal postseason. And the semester doesn't end until May. So, I get that it's really tough on the kids, but I think it's navigable. I would even go so far as to advocate for a double-header of sorts on consecutive weekend days, if it was feasible (which might be easier from a academic standpoint). But, that's probably even less likely than the three games a week! Georgetown won't go remote next semester - it needs the room/board money of people being on campus and there's a huge difference between vaccinated college kids being COVID-positive and actually sick. Probably true. I certainly hope that is the case. I was thinking more a delay of a few weeks vs. a straight up remote semester. I agree I don't see that happening nor should it. THese kids have had too much of their college experience taken away.
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Dec 29, 2021 15:28:35 GMT -5
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 29, 2021 17:31:47 GMT -5
Dumb decision by DeGioia and unnecessarily early - feel badly for the kids whose college experiences are being disrupted again. Have to wonder if some of these decisions will impact the perceived attractiveness of schools like Georgetown compared to colleges with more open environments.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 29, 2021 17:53:17 GMT -5
totally agree with saftey first georgetown doing correct thing to do this covid stain spreding like wildfire ny and dc top areas of concern
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 29, 2021 17:56:50 GMT -5
also there is a problem with needing many more beds to quarentine they csnt get them check the real facts i was at gu hospital today tremedous staff shortages effecting care greatly now all staff is required to wear face masks and shields first time in a long time sad but scary facts
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Post by tashoya on Dec 29, 2021 20:26:35 GMT -5
Dumb decision by DeGioia and unnecessarily early - feel badly for the kids whose college experiences are being disrupted again. Have to wonder if some of these decisions will impact the perceived attractiveness of schools like Georgetown compared to colleges with more open environments. Disagree with the first and third parts. Agree with the feeling badly for the students part.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Dec 29, 2021 20:40:43 GMT -5
I said this exact thing a week or two ago. Any other approach is just Editeding in the wind. This is the only way to finish these seasons (in all sports) with any semblance of normalcy.
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bluegray79
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Post by bluegray79 on Dec 29, 2021 22:10:05 GMT -5
I have a freshman son who is not overjoyed with the decision, but think about it: you have several thousand students returning from all over the world. To resume "normal" life with how fast things have changed in just these past few weeks is asking for a surge I think. Everyone is vaxxed? Good. Boosted? Mostly everyone -- good. Make the mask rule, establish testing guidelines, social distancing indoors, and make sure event protocols are clear and enforced and they will hopefully keep this thing under control. Let students get settled into the new semester with fewer events and places where there are lots of people indoors right away. It's only 2.5 weeks and could save them a prolonged surge and all that entails. Yale is doing the same thing.
Not worried about the school's attractiveness being hurt -- with a 16% acceptance rate (10% for early acceptance), they receive many thousands of legit applications that are turned away. They're doing o.k.
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Post by 3xhoya on Dec 29, 2021 23:03:56 GMT -5
I am really confused with this. So they can move into dorms and congregate there however they like but they can’t go to class? What about the library, socializing etc? Are they hoping students just won’t come back?
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Dec 30, 2021 10:13:41 GMT -5
I am really confused with this. So they can move into dorms and congregate there however they like but they can’t go to class? What about the library, socializing etc? Are they hoping students just won’t come back? TBH I’m not entirely sure of the reasoning and I suspect the reasoning will be explained forthcoming because of the questions faculty, staff, students, and parents will raise. The strategy offers two clear advantages: residential hall fees will still be paid so that potential revenue loss will be mitigated. And the reintroduction of the student body will be staggered. All students will be required to have negative tests before arriving to campus. There also are restrictions placed on all social gatherings (including GU sponsored, not just dorm parties). And the library will require social distancing and provide that students cannot eat in the library. Other study spaces will be provided. There are links to documents that explain all of these policies. Regarding whether this makes sense from a public health standpoint: I suspect that it does. The university has tons of data from its contact tracing. The coronavirus outbreaks have been associated with social gatherings, not residential life. I understand the argument that it may be dangerous to try to find out. Nonetheless, the university did succeed in creating a bubble of vaccinated individuals. And it does have an infrastructure in place for regular PCR testing. My biggest concern is the available quarantine space and the potential to tax already slender hospital resources.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 30, 2021 10:46:16 GMT -5
I am really confused with this. So they can move into dorms and congregate there however they like but they can’t go to class? What about the library, socializing etc? Are they hoping students just won’t come back? It's a clear move to appease faculty - similar to K-12 teachers unions' demands in cities like DC. Has zero to do with students getting "sick", which they do not get, even if they test positive. It's all about the adults, not the kids - which is a shame for kids that are spending $75K+/year for the "experience" they're getting.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 30, 2021 10:53:30 GMT -5
I am really confused with this. So they can move into dorms and congregate there however they like but they can’t go to class? What about the library, socializing etc? Are they hoping students just won’t come back? TBH I’m not entirely sure of the reasoning and I suspect the reasoning will be explained forthcoming because of the questions faculty, staff, students, and parents will raise. The strategy offers two clear advantages: residential hall fees will still be paid so that potential revenue loss will be mitigated. And the reintroduction of the student body will be staggered. All students will be required to have negative tests before arriving to campus. There also are restrictions placed on all social gatherings (including GU sponsored, not just dorm parties). And the library will require social distancing and provide that students cannot eat in the library. Other study spaces will be provided. There are links to documents that explain all of these policies. Regarding whether this makes sense from a public health standpoint: I suspect that it does. The university has tons of data from its contact tracing. The coronavirus outbreaks have been associated with social gatherings, not residential life. I understand the argument that it may be dangerous to try to find out. Nonetheless, the university did succeed in creating a bubble of vaccinated individuals. And it does have an infrastructure in place for regular PCR testing. My biggest concern is the available quarantine space and the potential to tax already slender hospital resources. I think it's a good compromise. It looks like the OMICRON peak will crest in mid January. No reason to go virtual for the entire semester. And frankly large gatherings like the holidays, the BCS semi final and final and Super Bowl are going to go on with tons of fans/people from all over the country so pretty much everyone is giving up on the shutdown or bubbles.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 30, 2021 13:06:45 GMT -5
Hoyas responsible for 4 of these...SMH.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 30, 2021 14:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 30, 2021 17:28:05 GMT -5
While the DC rate is easily the worst, it's pretty horrible in most places the Big East plays except the midwest (and even there it's high). The fact that the map in the article is color coded by severity and 50/53 are red (the most severe) is telling.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 1, 2022 10:59:07 GMT -5
Just received credit for cancelled SJU and X home games today. $25 per ticket.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 1, 2022 11:24:22 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 1, 2022 11:38:12 GMT -5
The Providence game fits in nicely between @st Johns 1/16 and Nova 1/22.
Back to Back with Creighton now on Feb 12 and 14th. Plus a long road trip, @creighton 2/14, @marquette 2/16, @nova 2/19
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Post by calhoya on Jan 1, 2022 14:48:43 GMT -5
Of course all of this presumes that the omicron virus which is pounding DMV and New York does not move into some of these other areas. I worry that many of our opponents have yet to experience the most recent surge. Maybe the rules change or the gyms are empty again but hoping for basketball so we can evaluate these kids, the coaches and say a proper thank you to the departing grad transfers.
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