bigskyhoya
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Post by bigskyhoya on Nov 9, 2021 12:13:32 GMT -5
This is objectively ridiculous. How so? Please explain. While we do have more players that are tall than they have, does that equate to a size advantage that will just power us over them since we can just throw the ball inside and score all day? In this case, with us having 0 experienced bigs with a track record of scoring, no. Objectively, are we talented to the point where we don't have to worry about this game? No. We are the better team, almost definitely yes, but not by a lot. If they have a hot shooting night it's a tossup. If they don't we'll win and ugly one. If Dartmouth shoots over 37% from 3 and loses I will be surprised. It seems that you know a lot about Dartmouth, which probably makes you unique on this Board. How long have you been following them and what other insights can you share with the Board?
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 9, 2021 12:42:23 GMT -5
I mean...can we just play the game??? Are people actually debating which team has more basketball talent? I get it- early game, lots of new players, etc. But can people give it a rest?
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rhw485
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Post by rhw485 on Nov 9, 2021 14:57:22 GMT -5
Very excited that this board can move on to actual game discussions. Things I'll be looking for: - Tempo: I'm expecting this team to push the tempo and get out in transition more than any Ewing team, and play at a pace similar to year 2. Will that actually happen? Can we generate easy offense?
- Will we have dependable 3 pt shooters other than Carey and Rice? I'm bullish on Dante shooting better, Aminu and Riley are wildcards but if teams have to respect them from deep it's going to be a problem
- 3pt defense: There's no sugar coating this one. I've been a very staunch defender of the defensive improvement that took place last year. This team, in theory, has the pieces to be a better defensive team but young guys tend to struggle on that end. I refuse to get concerned over scrimmage results, but this team is going to have to match or improve its defensive performance from last year to reach their season goals.
The schedule is set up for these first 3 games to get our feet wet and prepare for the showdown with SD St. Don't care if it's pretty, not going to complain how we win, just get it done and start the process toward improvement. Hoya Saxa
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hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on Nov 9, 2021 15:12:45 GMT -5
Very excited that this board can move on to actual game discussions. Things I'll be looking for: - Tempo: I'm expecting this team to push the tempo and get out in transition more than any Ewing team, and play at a pace similar to year 2. Will that actually happen? Can we generate easy offense?
- Will we have dependable 3 pt shooters other than Carey and Rice? I'm bullish on Dante shooting better, Aminu and Riley are wildcards but if teams have to respect them from deep it's going to be a problem
- 3pt defense: There's no sugar coating this one. I've been a very staunch defender of the defensive improvement that took place last year. This team, in theory, has the pieces to be a better defensive team but young guys tend to struggle on that end. I refuse to get concerned over scrimmage results, but this team is going to have to match or improve its defensive performance from last year to reach their season goals.
The schedule is set up for these first 3 games to get our feet wet and prepare for the showdown with SD St. Don't care if it's pretty, not going to complain how we win, just get it done and start the process toward improvement. Hoya Saxa
Not sure why you are excited...you are just about the only one that provides interesting game analysis/commentary. Might as well send posts to yourself. hm
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 9, 2021 15:28:28 GMT -5
Very excited that this board can move on to actual game discussions. Things I'll be looking for: - Tempo: I'm expecting this team to push the tempo and get out in transition more than any Ewing team, and play at a pace similar to year 2. Will that actually happen? Can we generate easy offense?
- Will we have dependable 3 pt shooters other than Carey and Rice? I'm bullish on Dante shooting better, Aminu and Riley are wildcards but if teams have to respect them from deep it's going to be a problem
- 3pt defense: There's no sugar coating this one. I've been a very staunch defender of the defensive improvement that took place last year. This team, in theory, has the pieces to be a better defensive team but young guys tend to struggle on that end. I refuse to get concerned over scrimmage results, but this team is going to have to match or improve its defensive performance from last year to reach their season goals.
The schedule is set up for these first 3 games to get our feet wet and prepare for the showdown with SD St. Don't care if it's pretty, not going to complain how we win, just get it done and start the process toward improvement. Hoya Saxa
I'm excited to see all the new players and really get to see the talent in a college context. How can anyone not be a bit excited to see this freshman class? To see which sophomores may have made a sophomore leap? Things I will be paying attention to: - With a VERY young team, less developed bigs, and in the first game, the defense isn't likely to be good. But I am curious to see if the athleticism and pressure can offset some of the inexperience and size down low.
- What does the offense look like? Are we going to try and run it through a low post big that isn't that great? Or is one of them that great? Or are we changing?
- How's the shooting? Rice, Carey seem like they will hit shots but I'm more interested in Dante and the frosh.
- What's the energy level and intensity?
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Nov 9, 2021 17:03:05 GMT -5
Will there be any sort of pregame ceremony to commemorate the championship? I didn’t notice any Gtown conference title banners last time I was at Cap One so not sure if they’d do any sort of banner unveiling or not.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 9, 2021 17:05:45 GMT -5
Will there be any sort of pregame ceremony to commemorate the championship? I didn’t notice any Gtown conference title banners last time I was at Cap One so not sure if they’d do any sort of banner unveiling or not. I don't know but I would think any such ceremony may be reserved for the first Big East conference game.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2021 20:20:15 GMT -5
Should be able to drive the lane pretty consistently. They don't have anyone quick enough to stay in front of Dante. Aminu should see a lot of floor time (barring foul trouble).
If Wahab had stayed, I'd guess he'd have gone for 30. They just don't have anyone in the post that can deal with any kind of size coupled with decent footwork. Good place to start for our bigs.
I feel a little dirty though. I haven't watched a BC game since they decided to be traitors. They're dead to me and I hope Dartmouth comes back and smokes them (no chance).
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 9, 2021 20:56:26 GMT -5
This is objectively ridiculous. How so? Please explain. While we do have more players that are tall than they have, does that equate to a size advantage that will just power us over them since we can just throw the ball inside and score all day? In this case, with us having 0 experienced bigs with a track record of scoring, no. Objectively, are we talented to the point where we don't have to worry about this game? No. We are the better team, almost definitely yes, but not by a lot. If they have a hot shooting night it's a tossup. If they don't we'll win and ugly one. If Dartmouth shoots over 37% from 3 and loses I will be surprised. Dartmouth 2/14 from 3 against BC, trailing 42-19 at the half.
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conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 9, 2021 20:57:18 GMT -5
Should be able to drive the lane pretty consistently. They don't have anyone quick enough to stay in front of Dante. Aminu should see a lot of floor time (barring foul trouble). If Wahab had stayed, I'd guess he'd have gone for 30. They just don't have anyone in the post that can deal with any kind of size coupled with decent footwork. Good place to start for our bigs. I feel a little dirty though. I haven't watched a BC game since they decided to be traitors. They're dead to me and I hope Dartmouth comes back and smokes them (no chance).
I agree. Dartmouth looked lost on defense and sloppy on offense. Guys left wide open and they couldn't cover that backup big that is a 7 footer. Certainly shoot a lot of threes so we will definitely get to see if our perimeter d has improved. They are getting dominated on the boards too.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2021 21:10:04 GMT -5
I can't imagine any team being this bad at shooting on the regular. This has to be an anomaly.
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conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 9, 2021 22:11:34 GMT -5
I can't imagine any team being this bad at shooting on the regular. This has to be an anomaly.
That was tough to watch 6-29 from 3 against a not very good BC. They had a lot of open shots and just missed so I would guess you are right and that is bound to improve. I think Barry was a 40+% their last year and he was something like 1 for 11 so that is definitely going to improve. Also if their backup 7 foot center Post can dominate then Timmy should be able to do the same.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2021 22:14:36 GMT -5
I can't imagine any team being this bad at shooting on the regular. This has to be an anomaly. That was tough to watch 6-29 from 3 against a not very good BC. They had a lot of open shots and just missed so I would guess you are right and that is bound to improve. I think Barry was a 40+% their last year and he was something like 1 for 11 so that is definitely going to improve. Also if their backup 7 foot center Post can dominate then Timmy should be able to do the same.
Seems like a typical lead up to a Georgetown game. Dartmouth will probably hit at a 50 percent clip when they play us.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 9, 2021 22:21:27 GMT -5
That was tough to watch 6-29 from 3 against a not very good BC. They had a lot of open shots and just missed so I would guess you are right and that is bound to improve. I think Barry was a 40+% their last year and he was something like 1 for 11 so that is definitely going to improve. Also if their backup 7 foot center Post can dominate then Timmy should be able to do the same.
Seems like a typical lead up to a Georgetown game. Dartmouth will probably hit at a 50 percent clip when they play us. “Decades of experience”…
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Nov 9, 2021 23:00:12 GMT -5
I have no idea what to expect from this game or really from the season. Dartmouth is a team we should beat, but I would not be surprised to see us have some growing pains early on. Right now, I’m just hoping for the occasional ugly win instead of a bad loss. In terms of what I would like to see, I really want to see if any of the freshmen seem like leaders. Is there someone who can take over a game, especially offensively? Defensively, I would like to see whether we play with a toughness that resembles how we looked in the Big East Tournament or whether we have some of the same issues, especially with three-point defense. Finally, I am really interested to see how our interior play looks in the 4-5 spots. That’s really our biggest vulnerability, and I’ll be interested to see how we look there.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 10, 2021 9:28:24 GMT -5
How so? Please explain. While we do have more players that are tall than they have, does that equate to a size advantage that will just power us over them since we can just throw the ball inside and score all day? In this case, with us having 0 experienced bigs with a track record of scoring, no. Objectively, are we talented to the point where we don't have to worry about this game? No. We are the better team, almost definitely yes, but not by a lot. If they have a hot shooting night it's a tossup. If they don't we'll win and ugly one. If Dartmouth shoots over 37% from 3 and loses I will be surprised. It should be pretty obvious from my other posts that I am not overly optimistic about this year's team, BUT we should have a lot more talent than Dartmouth, and we absolutely should be the better team by a good margin or, a lot. Dartmouth did not play last season, but they have historically been among the worst of the Ivies. Under their current coach, they have never been ranked on KenPom higher than 205, and they are projected at 280 this year. I am not saying the game will be an easy win, necessarily, but this absolutely is the type of game that high major talent--including a five star recruit--should handily win. The talent gap between our team and Dartmouth is significant. A better warm-up would have been playing BC but, because it's BC, eff them. We should win by a good margin. Or, Dartmouth just had a really bad game and aren't nearly as bad as they look. But, honestly, they just don't look like a good team in any regard. They can't shoot. Their D is bad. They don't have size or length. They're, generally, slow. BC won by 16 but it should have been a bigger margin. Also, BC doesn't look particularly good from that small sample.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 10, 2021 10:10:46 GMT -5
It should be pretty obvious from my other posts that I am not overly optimistic about this year's team, BUT we should have a lot more talent than Dartmouth, and we absolutely should be the better team by a good margin or, a lot. Dartmouth did not play last season, but they have historically been among the worst of the Ivies. Under their current coach, they have never been ranked on KenPom higher than 205, and they are projected at 280 this year. I am not saying the game will be an easy win, necessarily, but this absolutely is the type of game that high major talent--including a five star recruit--should handily win. The talent gap between our team and Dartmouth is significant. A better warm-up would have been playing BC but, because it's BC, eff them. We should win by a good margin. Or, Dartmouth just had a really bad game and aren't nearly as bad as they look. But, honestly, they just don't look like a good team in any regard. They can't shoot. Their D is bad. They don't have size or length. They're, generally, slow. BC won by 16 but it should have been a bigger margin. Also, BC doesn't look particularly good from that small sample. Anyone can beat anyone on any given day, especially with the 3 ball and freedom of movement (which prevents a bigger team from just physically dominating a smaller team) but that applies to every team so really can't be used as a reason that there isn't a talent gap.
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Post by wsdhoya on Nov 10, 2021 16:33:07 GMT -5
Want to see defense in this game. BC is bad. If we can play equally good or better defense to them that's encouraging. Bad offensive teams can compete above their level if they can defend the ball for two dribbles, help when needed, and can rebound.
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 10, 2021 17:47:16 GMT -5
Want to see defense in this game. BC is bad. If we can play equally good or better defense to them that's encouraging. Bad offensive teams can compete above their level if they can defend the ball for two dribbles, help when needed, and can rebound. Let's hope so!
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 11, 2021 8:57:49 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know if the same covid protocol rules applicable to Wizard's games are applicable to Georgetown games as well?
The MSE website delineates specific protocols for NBA and NHL but states concerts and other events are determined by the sponsoring organization. Does Georgetown/Big East have its own covid safety protocols?
See the front page for a link.--Admin
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