AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on Feb 15, 2023 18:52:23 GMT -5
I resent your calling Patrick a moron. He had enough of that talk when he was playing and the opponent's rooters would yell racist slurs at him. Edited. Avoid name calling.--AdminPardon I used a noun. Perhaps an adjective? If you disprove then look up the definition Stop trying to confuse and distract with the race card Patrick Ewing’s head basket ball coaching is moronic … his defense is moronic, his offense is moronic, his player development, player retention, graduation rates are all moronic
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 15, 2023 19:04:41 GMT -5
I resent your calling Patrick a moron. He had enough of that talk when he was playing and the opponent's rooters would yell racist slurs at him. I don’t know if Ewing is or isn’t a moron. I do know that the awful, racist things he was subjected to 40 years ago shouldn’t give him lifetime immunity from any criticism for moronic decisions. And, if there's anything this board lacks, it's people calling Ewing out for moronic decisions.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 15, 2023 20:14:36 GMT -5
My fear however is some promise has been made to Nickleberry last summer to take over if Ewing should depart and that is why Nickleberry’s guys are all getting a lot of minutes. Jack DeGioia does not control basketball lineups. Kevin Nickelberry is not getting hired as the Head Coach. And yet you thought Ewing wouldn’t get an extension. Who decided that? Why conspiracy theory are you gonna use this time?
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Post by bigskyhoya on Feb 15, 2023 21:04:39 GMT -5
Jack DeGioia does not control basketball lineups. Kevin Nickelberry is not getting hired as the Head Coach. And yet you thought Ewing wouldn’t get an extension. Who decided that? Why conspiracy theory are you gonna use this time? Anyone who has Ewing as his number one choice for our coach next year has no credibility or acumen about the game of basketball. People only respond to your posts because you are an oddity.
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Post by thedragon on Feb 15, 2023 21:40:07 GMT -5
I'm late to this convo and it's likely been covered but my 2 cents.
If I were Denver and his family I would be frustrated too. You were recruited to be the backup PG at worst (with Dante in fold) and then Primo was brought in with the transfer influx. And even with Dante gone you can't carve out minutes on a 6 win 1 conference win team where the starting Guards have been abysmal for long stretches. As a sibling/parent I'd be livid too.
Having said that, from the minutes he has played - he's looked poor. Even if we take away the shooting woes and chalk that up to the need for more playing time and comfort level - the thing that has shocked me is how poor his ball handling is. From the limited action I've seen him play its obvious why he's not getting backup PG duties and it's due to his ball handling or lack thereof more than anything else. My guess is that hes going to be an undersized shooting guard who can light up from 3 at somewhere like Monmouth (close to home) down the road.
Hopefully he sticks around under a new HC, amd develops the needed handle at this level and goes to be a Gtown success story. But that seems like a pipe dream on many fronts. Likely another in a long line of barely knew you players over the last 6 seasons.
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 16, 2023 17:04:52 GMT -5
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Post by bluegray79 on Feb 16, 2023 17:12:18 GMT -5
Don't blame him. Not sure if it means he is definitely leaving, but who could fault him for reaching that point? Here's where being out front on the coach search and securing a top coach will make a difference. If you were a recruit in his senior year, of HS or if you were Denver or D'Ante, would you think that Georgetown is the best place you can be? A good coach can keep those kids here and convince recruits to come be part of the revival of competitive, relevant basketball on the Hilltop.
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TC
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Post by TC on Feb 16, 2023 17:23:39 GMT -5
"Ewing hasn't lost the locker room yet!"
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 16, 2023 17:30:19 GMT -5
It’s cool that my completely accurate observation of Ewing was deleted.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 16, 2023 18:03:50 GMT -5
While I hope some of our roster sticks around upon a coaching change, in reality, the roster next year will likely be drastically different (ironically, even if Ewing stayed that would surely be true). In that sense, while I want guys like Akok, especially to stay, it's hard to get too attached at this point. I'd much rather have a talented coach bring in his own guys if that will turn things around faster.
On Denver Anglin, he was one of the recruits I was most excited to see in recent years, and yet, there hasn't been much chance to see him. I hope if we get a new high quality coach that he can convince Anglin to stay.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 16, 2023 18:20:51 GMT -5
It’s cool that my completely accurate observation of Ewing was deleted. Yes, but them’s the rules, I guess. I’d prefer to let a person’s inappropriate speech speak for itself. As it did here.
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 16, 2023 19:11:57 GMT -5
While I hope some of our roster sticks around upon a coaching change, in reality, the roster next year will likely be drastically different (ironically, even if Ewing stayed that would surely be true). In that sense, while I want guys like Akok, especially to stay, it's hard to get too attached at this point. I'd much rather have a talented coach bring in his own guys if that will turn things around faster. On Denver Anglin, he was one of the recruits I was most excited to see in recent years, and yet, there hasn't been much chance to see him. I hope if we get a new high quality coach that he can convince Anglin to stay. I hope we get a good coach also but it would nice if he can retain a few of our current players. Ryan is probably a lock considering he is finally getting a few minutes. Same for Jordan. I hope the coach can keep Akok, Ezewiro and Bass. The writing is probably already on the wall for Anglin and I don't really care about the rest. The new coach will only need to find 2 ballhandlers and a few shooters.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 16, 2023 20:29:35 GMT -5
It’s cool that my completely accurate observation of Ewing was deleted. Yes, but them’s the rules, I guess. I’d prefer to let a person’s inappropriate speech speak for itself. As it did here. Inappropriate? Whenever virtually everyone who gets close to a person decides to get away asap, how else would you describe him?
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 16, 2023 20:39:03 GMT -5
While I hope some of our roster sticks around upon a coaching change, in reality, the roster next year will likely be drastically different (ironically, even if Ewing stayed that would surely be true). In that sense, while I want guys like Akok, especially to stay, it's hard to get too attached at this point. I'd much rather have a talented coach bring in his own guys if that will turn things around faster. On Denver Anglin, he was one of the recruits I was most excited to see in recent years, and yet, there hasn't been much chance to see him. I hope if we get a new high quality coach that he can convince Anglin to stay. I hope we get a good coach also but it would nice if he can retain a few of our current players. Ryan is probably a lock considering he is finally getting a few minutes. Same for Jordan. I hope the coach can keep Akok, Ezewiro and Bass. The writing is probably already on the wall for Anglin and I don't really care about the rest. The new coach will only need to find 2 ballhandlers and a few shooters. Conversely though if hypothetically a player says there are going to leave or seems headed in that direction then why would you give that guy PT at the expense of players who are going to be here next year.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 16, 2023 20:43:23 GMT -5
While I hope some of our roster sticks around upon a coaching change, in reality, the roster next year will likely be drastically different (ironically, even if Ewing stayed that would surely be true). In that sense, while I want guys like Akok, especially to stay, it's hard to get too attached at this point. I'd much rather have a talented coach bring in his own guys if that will turn things around faster. On Denver Anglin, he was one of the recruits I was most excited to see in recent years, and yet, there hasn't been much chance to see him. I hope if we get a new high quality coach that he can convince Anglin to stay. I think a big problem with a coaching change is that will give all our guys who have used up their free transfer (Murray, spears, Heath, Akok, e0) another transfer waiver (coaching change) without having to sit out a year. Right now all these sophomores are locked into Georgetown. This is another reason I think Nickleberry might be taking over since he seems to have a lot of pull in retaining our current crop of guys who have used up their free transfer.
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Post by TC on Feb 16, 2023 20:44:34 GMT -5
I think a big problem with a coaching change is that will give all our guys who have used up their free transfer (Murray, spears, Heath, Akok, e0) another transfer waiver (coaching change) without having to sit out a year. Right now all these sophomores are locked into Georgetown. This is another reason I think Nickleberry might be taking over since he seems to have a lot of pull in retaining our current crop of guys who have used up their free transfer. We're 1-15, it's not a problem.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 16, 2023 20:45:54 GMT -5
I think a big problem with a coaching change is that will give all our guys who have used up their free transfer (Murray, spears, Heath, Akok, e0) another transfer waiver (coaching change) without having to sit out a year. Right now all these sophomores are locked into Georgetown. This is another reason I think Nickleberry might be taking over since he seems to have a lot of pull in retaining our current crop of guys who have used up their free transfer. We're 1-15, it's not a problem. Nickleberry taking over is a problem.
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Post by mfk24 on Feb 16, 2023 20:51:28 GMT -5
While I hope some of our roster sticks around upon a coaching change, in reality, the roster next year will likely be drastically different (ironically, even if Ewing stayed that would surely be true). In that sense, while I want guys like Akok, especially to stay, it's hard to get too attached at this point. I'd much rather have a talented coach bring in his own guys if that will turn things around faster. On Denver Anglin, he was one of the recruits I was most excited to see in recent years, and yet, there hasn't been much chance to see him. I hope if we get a new high quality coach that he can convince Anglin to stay. I think a big problem with a coaching change is that will give all our guys who have used up their free transfer (Murray, spears, Heath, Akok, e0) another transfer waiver (coaching change) without having to sit out a year. Right now all these sophomores are locked into Georgetown. This is another reason I think Nickleberry might be taking over since he seems to have a lot of pull in retaining our current crop of guys who have used up their free transfer. You keep mentioning these sophomores being “locked in” but a coaching change all but makes that meaningless. Do I think a guy like Heath gets another waiver, probably not, but Murray and Primo certainly could transfer and get a waiver if/when their coach gets fired. The only way they don’t get granted another transfer is if Ewing stays, in which case, we’ll go 2-18 next year after more of the same, while the rest of the roster transfers or graduates around them.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 16, 2023 21:42:53 GMT -5
Yes, but them’s the rules, I guess. I’d prefer to let a person’s inappropriate speech speak for itself. As it did here. Inappropriate? Whenever virtually everyone who gets close to a person decides to get away asap, how else would you describe him? "Moron" would not come to mind, but I admit that I'm old enough and sufficiently behind the times where being a "gentleman" was in the job description for most grads. My bad.
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Post by bills on Feb 16, 2023 21:55:53 GMT -5
I'm late to this convo and it's likely been covered but my 2 cents. If I were Denver and his family I would be frustrated too. You were recruited to be the backup PG at worst (with Dante in fold) and then Primo was brought in with the transfer influx. And even with Dante gone you can't carve out minutes on a 6 win 1 conference win team where the starting Guards have been abysmal for long stretches. As a sibling/parent I'd be livid too. Having said that, from the minutes he has played - he's looked poor. Even if we take away the shooting woes and chalk that up to the need for more playing time and comfort level - the thing that has shocked me is how poor his ball handling is. From the limited action I've seen him play its obvious why he's not getting backup PG duties and it's due to his ball handling or lack thereof more than anything else. My guess is that hes going to be an undersized shooting guard who can light up from 3 at somewhere like Monmouth (close to home) down the road. Hopefully he sticks around under a new HC, amd develops the needed handle at this level and goes to be a Gtown success story. But that seems like a pipe dream on many fronts. Likely another in a long line of barely knew you players over the last 6 seasons. I agree that Denver did not earn any playing time based on his performance when he was on the floor. He had some open 3’s and missed most of them. He clearly does not have D1 point guard skills. If he can come off the bench and hit over 40% of his three point shots, he could be a real asset in future seasons. If he is not showing that in practice, then he would likely not see much playing time. If he decides to transfer, I wish him success in finding a good fit for his skills. I can’t find much to blame on Ewing here. Anglin was a highly rated 4 star with a reputation as a deadly 3 point shooter. He had chances and shot poorly when he had those chances. Based on what he showed in those games, Ewing needed to look at Reilly and Bristol, two sophomores (in terms of eligibility) as better alternatives. Denver was given chances and did not impress when he had those chances.
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