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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 1, 2022 14:22:07 GMT -5
Real question. How do these handlers make money? Let's say, for arguments sake, Aminu wows the G League and gets a $3 million contract. Do these handlers work it so they serve as an agent to the player in some way? A percentage of salary? Or do they rely on their kid to just give them money? I know handlers like this have existed for years, so they must get compensated somehow, it's just unclear to me how that happens? As a handler, Harmon likely got paid when he sent Aminu to prep school and then again when he went to college. The idea is that by helping place a kid for success through high school/college, the kid will then compensate the handler as a "thank you" when he gets paid as a pro. There must be an agreement in writing. It wouldn’t be prudent otherwise.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Jul 1, 2022 21:23:42 GMT -5
Soooo...playing in the NCAA would have made Aminu a better basketball player than playing against professionals? This does not compute. Why do you think a player who struggles in the Big East is ready to play on a higher level? You are letting the 5* stuff get to your head. This kid needs hard work on his skills, skills which he will then need to be able to incorporate into the team game. I am not saying it won't happen, he has a lot of intangibles such as intelligence and drive in his favor. His physical attributes are solid, but hardly stand out in pro ball. I do think he would absolutely have benefited by getting the chance to potentially dominate on the college level before going pro. What is the rush? He ain't KD, for goodness sakes. So Aminu isn't ready to play in the G-League right now...but he was supposed to "dominate" the BE next year and go 1st round? Again...this does not compute.
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Jul 1, 2022 22:09:07 GMT -5
Why do you think a player who struggles in the Big East is ready to play on a higher level? You are letting the 5* stuff get to your head. This kid needs hard work on his skills, skills which he will then need to be able to incorporate into the team game. I am not saying it won't happen, he has a lot of intangibles such as intelligence and drive in his favor. His physical attributes are solid, but hardly stand out in pro ball. I do think he would absolutely have benefited by getting the chance to potentially dominate on the college level before going pro. What is the rush? He ain't KD, for goodness sakes. I So Aminu isn't ready to play in the G-League right now...but he was supposed to "dominate" the BE next year and go 1st round? Again...this does not compute. You will have to trust me on this. Struggling in amateur athletics is not normally solved by going pro.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jul 2, 2022 15:55:14 GMT -5
Leaving school after one year to get an exhibit 10 deal is just not a good thing. Had aminu gotten a two way, it could be justified some. But it’s really difficult to make the NBA off an E-10…..
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Jul 2, 2022 17:45:10 GMT -5
Leaving school after one year to get an exhibit 10 deal is just not a good thing. Had aminu gotten a two way, it could be justified some. But it’s really difficult to make the NBA off an E-10….. 2-way deals aren't set in stone. You can lose your 2-way before summer league if you get outperformed. Mac McClung just went from exhibit 10 to G-League to 2-way for the Lakers. At the the end of the day, cream rises. NBA caliber players eventually reach the NBA regardless of whatever path they need to take. Anyone that wants to pretend like a player's pro potential hinges solely on the NCAA is living in the past. There's many avenues to the NBA these days. Everyone wants to point at the draft results and make the surface level observation of "you didn't get drafted, so you failed" when we knew there was a high likelihood that the kid would bet on himself regardless of the season's outcome before the year even started. He simply chose to start his career as a professional basketball player early. The idea that his development (or earning potential) as a basketball player just suddenly stops because he isn't at Georgetown anymore is absurd. He could have been the 46th pick in the draft and STILL would have to go through the exact same process he's going through now, which is make and stay on a team. We love the "come back to school" narrative as if that's an exact science and the player always ends up in a better situation a year later. For every example you can give of it working out...I can give you one of it not working out. Aminu was CERTAINLY no first round lock had he returned to school. A world exists where Aminu comes back to school, has a so-so year and is in this exact same predicament a year later and a year older.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Jul 2, 2022 18:04:38 GMT -5
So Aminu isn't ready to play in the G-League right now...but he was supposed to "dominate" the BE next year and go 1st round? Again...this does not compute. You will have to trust me on this. Struggling in amateur athletics is not normally solved by going pro. Tell that to Payton Watson
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Jul 2, 2022 19:06:26 GMT -5
You will have to trust me on this. Struggling in amateur athletics is not normally solved by going pro. Tell that to Payton Watson Don't know him. Does the mere existence of another one and done who didn't get drafted mean that Aminu made the right move? I don't understand
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 2, 2022 20:16:10 GMT -5
Tell that to Payton Watson Don't know him. Does the mere existence of another one and done who didn't get drafted mean that Aminu made the right move? I don't understand Peyton Watson was drafted - a 1st rounder. Sn American professional basketball player for the Denver Nuggets of the National Basketball Association (NBA). A McDonald's All-American in high school, he played one season of college basketball for the UCLA Bruins. Watson was selected in the first round of the 2022 NBA draft with the 30th overall pick. PS Google is your friend. 😁
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Post by bornhoya on Jul 2, 2022 20:44:28 GMT -5
Don't know him. Does the mere existence of another one and done who didn't get drafted mean that Aminu made the right move? I don't understand Peyton Watson was drafted - a 1st rounder. Sn American professional basketball player for the Denver Nuggets of the National Basketball Association (NBA). A McDonald's All-American in high school, he played one season of college basketball for the UCLA Bruins. Watson was selected in the first round of the 2022 NBA draft with the 30th overall pick. PS Google is your friend. 😁 And averaged 3pts a game last year
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jul 2, 2022 21:14:28 GMT -5
Aminu has a lot to work on if he's going to make an NBA roster. But, he's got a great motor and he's got an NBA body with a knack for pulling down boards.
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Jul 3, 2022 14:17:21 GMT -5
You will have to trust me on this. Struggling in amateur athletics is not normally solved by going pro. Tell that to Payton Watson I hope both of them turn out to be perennial All-NBA selections. I was merely expressing my opinion that Aminu would have been better served to spend another year at Georgetown developing his skills, and hopefully getting the success at this level that would set him up for the professional ranks. I feel bad for him that he won't be with the Hoyas cutting down nets next year. That's all
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 4, 2022 20:06:15 GMT -5
This guy is an idiot. For all the Lu Dort's, there are literally thousands of kids who left early, went to G league or other comp, and didn't ever sniff the league. The clearest path to a big contract is to get drafted in the first round. Do Draymond Green's exist? Of course, but he was a four year player who proved himself in the big ten and then slipped to the 2nd round. Do undrafted guys like Dort or VanVleet happen? Sure, but that is a really tough way to go. Here is one article on five undrafted from this year: nba.nbcsports.com/2022/06/24/five-undrafted-players-from-2022-nba-draft-worth-watching/Aminu isn't on it. Doesn't mean he can't get it done, it just means he has an extremely high hill to climb. If I am a handler, my kid is going to the most prestigious university first, he is only leaving if he is a first round lock, and if he isn't a lock, he is staying three years to get close to that degree with a commitment from the school to pay for his fourth year whenever it fits his schedule. Duke, Michigan, UVA, Harvard, Stanford, Vandy, Gtown, Nwestern, all fit that model. I just don't get it. Will you be my handler? I have some strikes against me, but I like your plan.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 4, 2022 20:10:46 GMT -5
Tell that to Payton Watson I hope both of them turn out to be perennial All-NBA selections. I was merely expressing my opinion that Aminu would have been better served to spend another year at Georgetown developing his skills, and hopefully getting the success at this level that would set him up for the professional ranks. I feel bad for him that he won't be with the Hoyas cutting down nets next year. That's all Cutting down nets? That might be a bit of a stretch. Not likely that the guys who ARE Hoyas this year will be cutting down nets. Of course, that didn't figure in 2021 either, so I guess anything is possible. I guess.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 4, 2022 20:15:16 GMT -5
Tell that to Payton Watson I hope both of them turn out to be perennial All-NBA selections. I was merely expressing my opinion that Aminu would have been better served to spend another year at Georgetown developing his skills, and hopefully getting the success at this level that would set him up for the professional ranks. I feel bad for him that he won't be with the Hoyas cutting down nets next year. That's all I greatly admire your optimism.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 5, 2022 16:18:39 GMT -5
Whether Aminu should have stayed in college or gone pro is certainly debatable. Had he chosen to stay in college …should he have remained at Georgetown is an entirely another question. In either case, when we went 0-20 in the BE…had a feeling we watched his last game as a Hoya. His college choice was an epic fail. Selfishly, I am glad he tried at Georgetown.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 5, 2022 16:21:01 GMT -5
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Jul 5, 2022 18:13:41 GMT -5
Nice dish from Colin. I wish he had stayed
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Jul 5, 2022 18:28:20 GMT -5
Kenny Lofton just put Aminu in the torture rack
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Post by miracles87 on Jul 5, 2022 18:43:03 GMT -5
Kenny Lofton just put Aminu in the torture rack Lol, we all know Aminu can take a licking and keep on ticking.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Jul 5, 2022 18:53:06 GMT -5
Sweet finish by Aminu to end the half
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