hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 16, 2021 18:07:02 GMT -5
This is definitely the best outcome of the season anyone could’ve hoped for because rather than a more gradual and quiet entrance to the dance as say a 10 seed that slipped under the line, we came in with such a bang and raucous that I’m sure the university is very happy because this extra attention is so good for the school. Looking at nova, without wright’s success they would’ve stayed more subtle in terms of people under the age of 30 not knowing who they are (a bit like St. John’s) but winning titles or even just making deep runs skyrocketed their admissions numbers and gave them the chance and money to improve their academic and brand standings. I think even if we lose Saturday there can be a lot of excitement especially recruits who were giving us a look before, will take us very seriously
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 16, 2021 18:24:56 GMT -5
Ewing is everywhere in the media. He has probably covered his salary 3X+ with the value of his media mentions over the last 7 days. And lets not forget he was everywhere before the season began because of JT's death which helped remind or, in the case of younger folks cases, educate people about the Georgetown legacy. Obviously the death of Thompson was tragic but from a promotional standpoint these two separate events have provided a great media bookend that is almost impossible to attain otherwise.
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Post by ewingitrust on Mar 20, 2021 19:47:07 GMT -5
This 2022 recruiting cycle will be the tale of the tape...eagerly excited/curious to how things will shake out.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 20, 2021 21:06:29 GMT -5
He honestly doesn't even need to become a recruiting powerhouse. Just stop signing classes full of guys that literally no one has ever heard of, including some guys that would barely be PWO's other places. This year was a decent push in the right direction.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 20, 2021 22:03:41 GMT -5
Agree about ‘22 class being important. Need to build on ‘21 and use the momentum from a good finish this season.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 20, 2021 22:14:47 GMT -5
He honestly doesn't even need to become a recruiting powerhouse. Just stop signing classes full of guys that literally no one has ever heard of, including some guys that would barely be PWO's other places. This year was a decent push in the right direction. They just won the BET with a group that was largely unheard of coming out of HS, they also just got smoked by a team nobody heard of in HS... Like everyone else, I have high hopes for next year's class but whether they do well or not will have very little to do with how well known they were in HS in my opinion...
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 20, 2021 22:18:15 GMT -5
I will roll with 5 & 4 stars any day over unknowns.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 20, 2021 22:47:25 GMT -5
I will roll with 5 & 4 stars any day over unknowns. Of course, who wouldn't, I'm just saying it doesn't mean much once they get to college... Gtown had that in the 2014 & 15 classes, did you like rolling with those results? Meanwhile Butler & Xavier were re rolling to multiple NCAA appearances, Sweet 16’s & Elite 8’s with many unknown recruits during their time in the new BE...
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 20, 2021 23:12:25 GMT -5
That’s why transfers are intriguing, you know more of what you’re getting.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 21, 2021 19:37:38 GMT -5
I will roll with 5 & 4 stars any day over unknowns. Of course, who wouldn't, I'm just saying it doesn't mean much once they get to college... Gtown had that in the 2014 & 15 classes, did you like rolling with those results? Meanwhile Butler & Xavier were re rolling to multiple NCAA appearances, Sweet 16’s & Elite 8’s with many unknown recruits during their time in the new BE... It absolutely does mean much once you get to college. Kids who were known, because they were better in high school, largely do better in college. Stop trying to resuscitate this tired "stars don't matter" narrative.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 21, 2021 19:41:44 GMT -5
He honestly doesn't even need to become a recruiting powerhouse. Just stop signing classes full of guys that literally no one has ever heard of, including some guys that would barely be PWO's other places. This year was a decent push in the right direction. Which year is a "decent" push in the right direction the current freshman or next year's class?
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 21, 2021 19:47:28 GMT -5
He honestly doesn't even need to become a recruiting powerhouse. Just stop signing classes full of guys that literally no one has ever heard of, including some guys that would barely be PWO's other places. This year was a decent push in the right direction. Which year is a "decent" push in the right direction the current freshman or next year's class? Next year's class. Harris was a pleasant surprise, but Sibley was a bit of a let down (wayyyyy too early to tell). The other kids probably are better served trying to play elsewhere.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 21, 2021 20:28:57 GMT -5
Which year is a "decent" push in the right direction the current freshman or next year's class? Next year's class. Harris was a pleasant surprise, but Sibley was a bit of a let down (wayyyyy too early to tell). The other kids probably are better served trying to play elsewhere. If #9 in the country only qualifies as "decent" what fits the definition of "good" and "great"?
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 21, 2021 21:31:22 GMT -5
Of course, who wouldn't, I'm just saying it doesn't mean much once they get to college... Gtown had that in the 2014 & 15 classes, did you like rolling with those results? Meanwhile Butler & Xavier were re rolling to multiple NCAA appearances, Sweet 16’s & Elite 8’s with many unknown recruits during their time in the new BE... It absolutely does mean much once you get to college. Kids who were known, because they were better in high school, largely do better in college. Stop trying to resuscitate this tired "stars don't matter" narrative. I know that it hasn't mattered much at Gtown over the last 6 seasons... Ask a Marquette fan how well it's worked out for them? How about Memphis or Indiana or Maryland? The stars don't matter narrative isn't what I'm trying to push...
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 22, 2021 0:17:02 GMT -5
Next year's class. Harris was a pleasant surprise, but Sibley was a bit of a let down (wayyyyy too early to tell). The other kids probably are better served trying to play elsewhere. If #9 in the country only qualifies as "decent" what fits the definition of "good" and "great"? It's heavily weighted towards one kid who I doubt will be around long. Behind him we have a developmental, but good piece at Center and then...meh. More of the same.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 22, 2021 0:25:12 GMT -5
It absolutely does mean much once you get to college. Kids who were known, because they were better in high school, largely do better in college. Stop trying to resuscitate this tired "stars don't matter" narrative. I know that it hasn't mattered much at Gtown over the last 6 seasons... Ask a Marquette fan how well it's worked out for them? How about Memphis or Indiana or Maryland? The stars don't matter narrative isn't what I'm trying to push... Then what point are you trying to make? This is stupid. No one says it "works out" 100% of the time, but it sure as hell works out far better than recruiting 3 stars and PWO's who get scholarships at the last minute.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 22, 2021 5:33:02 GMT -5
Don’t sleep on Jordan Riley.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 22, 2021 5:43:20 GMT -5
If #9 in the country only qualifies as "decent" what fits the definition of "good" and "great"? It's heavily weighted towards one kid who I doubt will be around long. Behind him we have a developmental, but good piece at Center and then...meh. More of the same. Plenty of classes are skewed by 1 or 2 players that's how cumulative rankings work, not just for Georgetown but for every team... So individually the "stars" matter but when combined into making a class ranking they don't...ok... So Mutumbo at #108 4 stars (because that matters) is a promising future piece to the program but Riley #118 3 stars is Meh? What happens when new rankings come out and Riley is #105 4 stars and Mutumbo is #115 and 3 stars. Now Riley is our future and Mutumbo is Meh?
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 22, 2021 10:35:51 GMT -5
It's heavily weighted towards one kid who I doubt will be around long. Behind him we have a developmental, but good piece at Center and then...meh. More of the same. Plenty of classes are skewed by 1 or 2 players that's how cumulative rankings work, not just for Georgetown but for every team... So individually the "stars" matter but when combined into making a class ranking they don't...ok... So Mutumbo at #108 4 stars (because that matters) is a promising future piece to the program but Riley #118 3 stars is Meh? What happens when new rankings come out and Riley is #105 4 stars and Mutumbo is #115 and 3 stars. Now Riley is our future and Mutumbo is Meh? Yeah POD I don't see how you can look at Jordan and see "meh". To me the questionable recruit is Aminu. We really need him to be a double digit scorer next year and immediately replace what Juggy provided to make noise in the BE. Jordan is going to score because he is going to be the best athlete on the court without being the #1 option...
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Mar 22, 2021 11:09:17 GMT -5
I hope that some of these Freshmen coming in are able to consistently shoot from deep. This year the presence of multiple perimeter threats, however inconsistent, helped open the offense, particularly when the team remembered to move the ball quickly and smartly. Shooters are an essential part of the game. Right now, other than Carey (if he is back), who are the shooters? Harris was not great but could improve. Berger was promising but certainly far from a finished product.
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