hoya59er
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Post by hoya59er on Mar 9, 2021 18:28:08 GMT -5
Let's hope Ewing has our players primed to play with intensity from the very start, to pass well, out-rebound and out-hustle Marquette, good shot selection. And no blaming our players, he is our coach. If we fail, this is on him.
So, we all want Ewing and our guys to succeed, so fervent prayers and crossed fingers. Go Hoyas. First we take down Quette, then Nova!
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 9, 2021 18:39:52 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. I’ve never seen Hoosiers. I know that actor better as Eddie Harris from Major League. 🤷♂️
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 9, 2021 18:54:34 GMT -5
Are we really criticizing the discipline Ewing seems to be trying to bring to the program? If he has a higher incident rate, maybe he just tolerates less? Is that necessarily a problem? No. This isn't really the thread for this, but yeah, I think some people are criticizing Ewing for this. But, I don't think anybody is criticizing Ewing for bringing discipline to the program. From John Thompson Jr. to Ewing, Georgetown's coaches have generally conducted the program in an honorable way, and I have no reason to think Ewing is any different. He certainly seems like an honorable guy, and I have no doubts about that. I think most of us here would agree that a coach that did NOT instill discipline would be bad for Georgetown (and frankly, I don't think the university would tolerate it). That said, EVERY program across the country is filled with teenagers and young adults. And, people that age inevitably make mistakes or are difficult to handle at times. So, it is more a matter of discipline style than the discipline itself. We are mostly in a vacuum here. We have no idea what causes Blair to not start, etc. But, it's telling that Ewing has seemingly had more episodes of these types of things than other coaches. When you combine this with the roster upheaval of last year, it begins to look bad. Granted, it may not be Ewing's fault, but it still looks bad. I find it hard to believe this is all explained by Ewing tolerating less. That's idealistic, I think. Back to the game, whether he starts or not, I hope Blair gets a lot of run.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 9, 2021 19:15:40 GMT -5
I have a confession to make. I’ve never seen Hoosiers. I know that actor better as Eddie Harris from Major League. 🤷♂️ You are hereby sentenced to one week in Shooter's cabin in the woods.
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Mar 9, 2021 20:26:02 GMT -5
My message to the team...the Big East tournament should be the MOST FUN you've ever had in your lives...therefore, play with the most energy, enthusiasm and passion than you ever have, and the most efficiency as a team than ever...AND YE SHALL WIN!!!...Go You Hoyas!!!
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 10, 2021 7:45:01 GMT -5
Reading these boards, sometimes, I'm not sure that we all are. Certain people have agendas that they seem to focus on too much but I think we all want the Hoyas to win at the end of the day. Personally, I don't have an agenda at all other than wanting success for the program. I am absolutely concerned about Pat's pattern of clashes with key players, because it's both unusually high, disruptive and potentially speaks to his ability to positively coexist with today's players...who are absolutely more entitled, more sensitive and more outspoken than the players of his era. I desperately want Ewing to succeed, but I'm also not going to ignore obvious red flags. And make no mistake, his history to date with top players is a BIG red flag.
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Mar 10, 2021 8:02:05 GMT -5
Being a fan back to the late 60's I want the Hoyas to win, but win in a proper, honorable, well run program. Have they always succeeded? No, but as long as that is the goal, and I convinced it is with Patrick, I will continue to root for them. Go Hoyas! Beat the Warriors (See I am that old).
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 10, 2021 8:23:36 GMT -5
Is Wojo coaching for his job today?
Only 2 NCAA appearances in 6 seasons, with 0 BET finals or semifinals kinda makes me wonder...
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 10, 2021 8:28:40 GMT -5
Is Wojo coaching for his job today? Only 2 NCAA appearances in 6 seasons, with 0 BET finals or semifinals kinda makes me wonder... If MU has the same standards as GU, then the answer is no. Has he won any BET games?
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 10, 2021 8:47:33 GMT -5
Is Wojo coaching for his job today? Only 2 NCAA appearances in 6 seasons, with 0 BET finals or semifinals kinda makes me wonder... If MU has the same standards as GU, then the answer is no. Has he won any BET games?He has won 4 BET games, he hasn't lost in a Wednesday game(3-0)
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bostonfan
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 10, 2021 8:59:24 GMT -5
Is Wojo coaching for his job today? Only 2 NCAA appearances in 6 seasons, with 0 BET finals or semifinals kinda makes me wonder... Not sure Wojo is in jeopardy of losing his job with a loss today. I think a lot of schools are going to be more patient than normal this year because of all the strange COVID stuff everyone has had to deal with, but I have to think that the Marquette fans and athletic department are disappointed with he way this year turned out for the basketball team. It sounded early on like they had high expectations for the team this year with some good senior leadership and a strong recruiting class along with the highly rated transfer from Ohio State.
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Post by ewingitrust on Mar 10, 2021 9:11:06 GMT -5
Whenever I'm overly optimistic, I get letdown...Go Hoyas!
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 10, 2021 9:18:44 GMT -5
Is Wojo coaching for his job today? Only 2 NCAA appearances in 6 seasons, with 0 BET finals or semifinals kinda makes me wonder... Not sure Wojo is in jeopardy of losing his job with a loss today. I think a lot of schools are going to be more patient than normal this year because of all the strange COVID stuff everyone has had to deal with, but I have to think that the Marquette fans and athletic department are disappointed with he way this year turned out for the basketball team. It sounded early on like they had high expectations for the team this year with some good senior leadership and a strong recruiting class along with the highly rated transfer from Ohio State. I kinda hear you with Covid but Marquette had a pause back in October and played 19 of 20 BE games this season, compared to other programs their covid impact was minimal...
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 10, 2021 9:30:25 GMT -5
Not sure Wojo is in jeopardy of losing his job with a loss today. I think a lot of schools are going to be more patient than normal this year because of all the strange COVID stuff everyone has had to deal with, but I have to think that the Marquette fans and athletic department are disappointed with he way this year turned out for the basketball team. It sounded early on like they had high expectations for the team this year with some good senior leadership and a strong recruiting class along with the highly rated transfer from Ohio State. I kinda hear you with Covid but Marquette had a pause back in October and played 19 of 20 BE games this season, compared to other programs their covid impact was minimal... No doubt that they did not have it as bad as some teams and it should not be any more of an excuse for him and his team not performing than it is for anyone else, but I think a lot of universities will view firing a coach after this past year and how COVID impacted so many peoples life's as a tough sell from a PR perspective. If Marquette has another bad year next year, then I think he is in trouble. He has some good young pieces with that recruiting class he had this year. Clearly some programs have moved on from coaches, and I am sure some more will, but I expect there to be a little less turnover than most years.
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Post by practice on Mar 10, 2021 10:19:59 GMT -5
Certain people have agendas that they seem to focus on too much but I think we all want the Hoyas to win at the end of the day. Personally, I don't have an agenda at all other than wanting success for the program. I am absolutely concerned about Pat's pattern of clashes with key players, because it's both unusually high, disruptive and potentially speaks to his ability to positively coexist with today's players...who are absolutely more entitled, more sensitive and more outspoken than the players of his era. I desperately want Ewing to succeed, but I'm also not going to ignore obvious red flags. And make no mistake, his history to date with top players is a BIG red flag. I kind of love the fact that Ewing benches players and prima donnas have transferred. From the outside looking in, it looks to me like he doesn't suffer fools and is trying to build a culture in his program. It comes down to having the right roster for the system. Maybe talent has trumped character somewhat in the early days of recruiting -- hopefully he's figuring out the right type of kid for his team. Next year's class will be telling -- he's definitely recruited a lot of talent ... if he can't develop, retain and win with that class over the next 2-3 years ... then I would say the Ewing Era should probably come to a close.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 10, 2021 10:38:44 GMT -5
GAMEDAY!!!
Not sure if I'd rather miss this game or have a root canal. Lucky for me I have to do both today! So unfortunately I'll be watching this game on tape delay. It's ok though, I'm confident the guys will come out ready to compete today, as long as they are crisp with their passes, take care of the ball, and win 50/50 battles I know that we will be in the game until the very end. I hope the team isn't looking forward to a possible second round matchup against Nova because Marquette will be no pushover. I still wish we had seen MU twice this year because that's a team we should have split with. Even if our first game with them had been during this post COVID break, I don't think we let them come back and steal the W in the end. Hope Dante has rested his ankle and is ready to drain 3s. Need to get Jamarko some in rhythm 3s or FTs early to get his shot going (we know the rest of his game will be there). Hopefully Coach lets bygones be bygones and starts Blair...as much as we argue about the offense with Blair in vs Out, we score more with him in (even if it is more inefficient). Q needs to dominate and own the post with the help of Timmy and Bile. Finally, if Bile and Don shoot the 3 well, I believe we win this one easy.
Go Hoyas!! Beat MU and get the BET monkey off your back!
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smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 10, 2021 11:06:00 GMT -5
Personally, I don't have an agenda at all other than wanting success for the program. I am absolutely concerned about Pat's pattern of clashes with key players, because it's both unusually high, disruptive and potentially speaks to his ability to positively coexist with today's players...who are absolutely more entitled, more sensitive and more outspoken than the players of his era. I desperately want Ewing to succeed, but I'm also not going to ignore obvious red flags. And make no mistake, his history to date with top players is a BIG red flag. I kind of love the fact that Ewing benches players and prima donnas have transferred. From the outside looking in, it looks to me like he doesn't suffer fools and is trying to build a culture in his program. It comes down to having the right roster for the system. Maybe talent has trumped character somewhat in the early days of recruiting -- hopefully he's figuring out the right type of kid for his team. Next year's class will be telling -- he's definitely recruited a lot of talent ... if he can't develop, retain and win with that class over the next 2-3 years ... then I would say the Ewing Era should probably come to a close. Yep, I don’t disagree. Part of me likes that he’s a taskmaster. But that is a tough line to tread, because it’s real hard to attract the best players if your rep is that you’re hard to play for and intractable. I def want a return to the old blue collar mean streak that used to define GU hoops and completely disappeared under JT3. But he needs to win while he’s establishing that culture. I completely agree that this next crop will be his make-or-break class. From outward appearances, Aminu has zero prima donna in him. But the at least several of the others look quite the opposite. JWP has been telling us for months how Pat better not tick off Riley and his dad re: playing time, crowded backcourt, etc. It will be real interesting to see how that mentality walking in the door play with Pat. Didn’t work so well with Camp Akinjo.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2021 11:11:44 GMT -5
Match Marquette's intensity and we will play tomorrow.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 10, 2021 11:24:31 GMT -5
Certain people have agendas that they seem to focus on too much but I think we all want the Hoyas to win at the end of the day. Personally, I don't have an agenda at all other than wanting success for the program. I am absolutely concerned about Pat's pattern of clashes with key players, because it's both unusually high, disruptive and potentially speaks to his ability to positively coexist with today's players...who are absolutely more entitled, more sensitive and more outspoken than the players of his era. I desperately want Ewing to succeed, but I'm also not going to ignore obvious red flags. And make no mistake, his history to date with top players is a BIG red flag. It's all players (scrubs like Sodom). As long as he is consistent that is the most important thing in leadership.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 10, 2021 11:26:41 GMT -5
I kind of love the fact that Ewing benches players and prima donnas have transferred. From the outside looking in, it looks to me like he doesn't suffer fools and is trying to build a culture in his program. It comes down to having the right roster for the system. Maybe talent has trumped character somewhat in the early days of recruiting -- hopefully he's figuring out the right type of kid for his team. Next year's class will be telling -- he's definitely recruited a lot of talent ... if he can't develop, retain and win with that class over the next 2-3 years ... then I would say the Ewing Era should probably come to a close. Yep, I don’t disagree. Part of me likes that he’s a taskmaster. But that is a tough line to tread, because it’s real hard to attract the best players if your rep is that you’re hard to play for and intractable. I def want a return to the old blue collar mean streak that used to define GU hoops and completely disappeared under JT3. But he needs to win while he’s establishing that culture. I completely agree that this next crop will be his make-or-break class. From outward appearances, Aminu has zero prima donna in him. But the at least several of the others look quite the opposite. JWP has been telling us for months how Pat better not tick off Riley and his dad re: playing time, crowded backcourt, etc. It will be real interesting to see how that mentality walking in the door play with Pat. Didn’t work so well with Camp Akinjo. That is a valid concern but if you look at this year's recruiting class that is the answer to being a consistent but strong disciplinarian.
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