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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 10:45:28 GMT -5
As always, you must invoke Trump to inoculate Oatmeal brain. Trump is not in office. Too feeble to prosecute is. Did you bother even reading the text of what Hur wrote? Dan posted a link. “Too feeble to prosecute” is a wildly inaccurate take that you keep repeating. Also, “Trump is not in office” is a woefully bad argument when they are both running for president. Making comparisons between them is just a common sense thing to do. I read Hur’s report. He concludes that Biden willfully took and disclosed classified material. He said Biden did not know when he was Vice President. He said Biden did not know when his son died within a range of years. In his ranting press conference, he invoked the Rosary Ring from Our Lady of ?. Too feeble is my conclusion.
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 10, 2024 10:55:01 GMT -5
Did you bother even reading the text of what Hur wrote? Dan posted a link. “Too feeble to prosecute” is a wildly inaccurate take that you keep repeating. Also, “Trump is not in office” is a woefully bad argument when they are both running for president. Making comparisons between them is just a common sense thing to do. I read Hur’s report. He concludes that Biden willfully took and disclosed classified material. He said Biden did not know when he was Vice President. He said Biden did not know when his son died within a range of years. In his ranting press conference, he invoked the Rosary Ring from Our Lady of ?. Too feeble is my conclusion. Why would you come to that conclusion when Hur specifically lays out why he will not prosecute? Again, you have completely mischaracterized what Hur wrote. You can draw your own conclusions all you want, it doesn’t mean they are right or align with the facts no matter how many times you write them.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 10, 2024 10:57:16 GMT -5
Did you bother even reading the text of what Hur wrote? Dan posted a link. “Too feeble to prosecute” is a wildly inaccurate take that you keep repeating. Also, “Trump is not in office” is a woefully bad argument when they are both running for president. Making comparisons between them is just a common sense thing to do. I read Hur’s report. He concludes that Biden willfully took and disclosed classified material. He said Biden did not know when he was Vice President. He said Biden did not know when his son died within a range of years. In his ranting press conference, he invoked the Rosary Ring from Our Lady of ?. Too feeble is my conclusion. There are many Lady of ?, but it’s the same one. Maybe he said the name of one of the places all over the world where the “Lady” has appeared (allegedly for the non-believers). Maybe you don’t know the name of the place and he was correct since he is a devout Catholic. It’s the same Lady some of us prayed to when you called for prayers for your son, our future Hoya alum. It’s up to you to believe. But, go ahead and keep ragging about a feeble old man…
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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 11:19:09 GMT -5
I read Hur’s report. He concludes that Biden willfully took and disclosed classified material. He said Biden did not know when he was Vice President. He said Biden did not know when his son died within a range of years. In his ranting press conference, he invoked the Rosary Ring from Our Lady of ?. Too feeble is my conclusion. There are many Lady of ?, but it’s the same one. Maybe he said the name of one of the places all over the world where the “Lady” has appeared (allegedly for the non-believers). Maybe you don’t know the name of the place and he was correct since he is a devout Catholic. It’s the same Lady some of us prayed to when you called for prayers for your son, our future Hoya alum. It’s up to you to believe. But, go ahead and keep ragging about a feeble old man… Nice try. He could not remember the name of the Church he wanted to invoke as proof of his memory. He is a demented old man being enabled by people who need a useful idiot.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 10, 2024 12:21:51 GMT -5
I read Hur’s report. He concludes that Biden willfully took and disclosed classified material. He said Biden did not know when he was Vice President. He said Biden did not know when his son died within a range of years. In his ranting press conference, he invoked the Rosary Ring from Our Lady of ?. Too feeble is my conclusion. Why would you come to that conclusion when Hur specifically lays out why he will not prosecute? Again, you have completely mischaracterized what Hur wrote. You can draw your own conclusions all you want, it doesn’t mean they are right or align with the facts no matter how many times you write them. This is a perfect example of right-wing messaging. It doesn't matter what the facts are grab a narrative and then relentlessly repeat it. Elvado has it mastered.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 13:13:58 GMT -5
Why would you come to that conclusion when Hur specifically lays out why he will not prosecute? Again, you have completely mischaracterized what Hur wrote. You can draw your own conclusions all you want, it doesn’t mean they are right or align with the facts no matter how many times you write them. This is a perfect example of right-wing messaging. It doesn't matter what the facts are grab a narrative and then relentlessly repeat it. Elvado has it mastered. I admire your ardor. When his diagnosis gets confirmed and/or he steps down, give me a shout.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 10, 2024 14:59:31 GMT -5
I forget sh!t all the time and am far from demented. Do I want 2 octogenarians as the choice for president? No, but that’s apparently what I’m gonna get. No way am I voting for a clear dishonest grifter who has no skin in the game on making our country better (only interested in whatever profit he can make for himself) and who is demonstrably less in charge of his faculties than the guy that is in office, who despite Dr Elvado’s medical professional conclusion, has a pretty successful term of results so far. There’s also no question that Mr Hur has zero medical expertise yet went out of his way to load his findings up with politically motivated superfluous nonsense. If a lawyer can masquerade as a doctor, i can certainly do the reverse because my grandfather was a lawyer, and a damn good one at that.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 15:21:25 GMT -5
I forget sh!t all the time and am far from demented. Do I want 2 octogenarians as the choice for president? No, but that’s apparently what I’m gonna get. No way am I voting for a clear dishonest grifter who has no skin in the game on making our country better (only interested in whatever profit he can make for himself) and who is demonstrably less in charge of his faculties than the guy that is in office, who despite Dr Elvado’s medical professional conclusion, has a pretty successful term of results so far. There’s also no question that Mr Hur has zero medical expertise yet went out of his way to load his findings up with politically motivated superfluous nonsense. If a lawyer can masquerade as a doctor, i can certainly do the reverse because my grandfather was a lawyer, and a damn good one at that. Just to be clear, you would have preferred charges? Because here, there was plenty criminal.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 10, 2024 15:39:17 GMT -5
I forget sh!t all the time and am far from demented. Do I want 2 octogenarians as the choice for president? No, but that’s apparently what I’m gonna get. No way am I voting for a clear dishonest grifter who has no skin in the game on making our country better (only interested in whatever profit he can make for himself) and who is demonstrably less in charge of his faculties than the guy that is in office, who despite Dr Elvado’s medical professional conclusion, has a pretty successful term of results so far. There’s also no question that Mr Hur has zero medical expertise yet went out of his way to load his findings up with politically motivated superfluous nonsense. If a lawyer can masquerade as a doctor, i can certainly do the reverse because my grandfather was a lawyer, and a damn good one at that. Just to be clear, you would have preferred charges? Because here, there was plenty criminal. No, because on my (obviously simple) read of it was there was no intent on the part of the person being investigated and that person cooperated fully. I’d have preferred the Independent prosecutor (or whatever his title is) not litter his conclusion on the evidence that there were no charges to bring with a bunch of gratuitous amateur matchbox physician nonsense. I’ve sat in depositions asking for answers about events and statements from 10 years prior and the “I don’t recall” answer is frequent and for the most part legit. I’d also prefer (and I know it’s an impossibility) the media report the facts instead of only the intentional throwaways of a partial prosecutor.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 10, 2024 15:54:11 GMT -5
Just to be clear, you would have preferred charges? Because here, there was plenty criminal. No, because on my (obviously simple) read of it was there was no intent on the part of the person being investigated and that person cooperated fully. I’d have preferred the Independent prosecutor (or whatever his title is) not litter his conclusion on the evidence that there were no charges to bring with a bunch of gratuitous amateur matchbox physician nonsense. I’ve sat in depositions asking for answers about events and statements from 10 years prior and the “I don’t recall” answer is frequent and for the most part legit. I’d also prefer (and I know it’s an impossibility) the media report the facts instead of only the intentional throwaways of a partial prosecutor. Funny that a doctor has a better grasp of the duty and responsibilities of an ethical prosecutor than a lawyer which Elvado is. Kudos, Dr. McQ
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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 16:07:49 GMT -5
No, because on my (obviously simple) read of it was there was no intent on the part of the person being investigated and that person cooperated fully. I’d have preferred the Independent prosecutor (or whatever his title is) not litter his conclusion on the evidence that there were no charges to bring with a bunch of gratuitous amateur matchbox physician nonsense. I’ve sat in depositions asking for answers about events and statements from 10 years prior and the “I don’t recall” answer is frequent and for the most part legit. I’d also prefer (and I know it’s an impossibility) the media report the facts instead of only the intentional throwaways of a partial prosecutor. Funny that a doctor has a better grasp of the duty and responsibilities of an ethical prosecutor than a lawyer which Elvado is. Kudos, Dr. McQ Ethical prosecutor like Fani perhaps?
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 10, 2024 16:34:52 GMT -5
This is a perfect example of right-wing messaging. It doesn't matter what the facts are grab a narrative and then relentlessly repeat it. Elvado has it mastered. I admire your ardor. When his diagnosis gets confirmed and/or he steps down, give me a shout. Thanks for proving my point. My post wasn't about Biden it was about the right-wing messaging, and right on cue you ignore that point to continue with the "Biden has oatmeal for brains" narrative... This messaging discipline you have is why you won't name any Dems in the "Open Borders crowd", it's very rarely about facts with you & folks on your side of the aisle it's just about controlling the narrative & message...
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 10, 2024 16:41:21 GMT -5
Funny that a doctor has a better grasp of the duty and responsibilities of an ethical prosecutor than a lawyer which Elvado is. Kudos, Dr. McQ Ethical prosecutor like Fani perhaps? Classic Elvadoism. He cannot address the ethical obligations of a Special Counsel or a federal prosecutor because he simply does not know what they are. Instead, a deflect and attempt to re-target.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 10, 2024 18:14:44 GMT -5
Ethical prosecutor like Fani perhaps? Classic Elvadoism. He cannot address the ethical obligations of a Special Counsel or a federal prosecutor because he simply does not know what they are. Instead, a deflect and attempt to re-target. 100% true. But I am pretty sure hiring your lover with government money is not kosher. That said, I am not going to reiterate my thoughts any further on Mr Biden’s mental acuity. You guys are satisfied he is fine. So be it.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 10, 2024 21:56:51 GMT -5
Classic Elvadoism. He cannot address the ethical obligations of a Special Counsel or a federal prosecutor because he simply does not know what they are. Instead, a deflect and attempt to re-target. 100% true. But I am pretty sure hiring your lover with government money is not kosher. That said, I am not going to reiterate my thoughts any further on Mr Biden’s mental acuity. You guys are satisfied he is fine. So be it. But, paying them off with campaign funds is fine. Got it. And, putting your kids on the payroll is fine as well. Let's say Biden is badly compromised mentally. Can you point to his decline in his work? I'm not saying, "Is he doing things you don't like?" I'm asking whether you can make an argument that he isn't putting in the hours and achieving his agenda? FWIW, the former guy was proud of the hours he put in while talking about how late he actually got to the office. And, he doesn't know the difference between Nancy Pelosi and Nikki Haley. I only mention TFG because I don't recall your "concern" about anyone else's mental acuity or decline.
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Truly is wild. Trump had been in obvious cognitive decline pretty much since he first ran for president in 2015. Seriously. Go watch some interview clips of him from the 1980s or 1990s. He actually used to be a relatively polished speaker. But we’ve become so desensitized to it over the last decade that it doesn’t get treated as a political liability. Nonsensical speech? “That’s just Trump being Trump.”
To be clear, I do think Biden is too old and wish someone else were leading the Dem ticket. But given that we have a two-party system, and that Trump will certainly be the GOP nominee, then the only way to judge the significance of any drop in acuity (or “vigor” or whatever) in Biden’s case is in direct comparison to Trump. I happen to think it’s worse with Trump, but even if it’s not worse, it’s still there. And there are so many additional horrific things about Trump that Biden having lost his fastball barely even registers for me as an issue in the general election. (If the Dems had gotten real about running a different candidate, this would be a different conversation.)
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2024 10:31:04 GMT -5
Truly is wild. Trump had been in obvious cognitive decline pretty much since he first ran for president in 2015. Seriously. Go watch some interview clips of him from the 1980s or 1990s. He actually used to be a relatively polished speaker. But we’ve become so desensitized to it over the last decade that it doesn’t get treated as a political liability. Nonsensical speech? “That’s just Trump being Trump.” To be clear, I do think Biden is too old and wish someone else were leading the Dem ticket. But given that we have a two-party system, and that Trump will certainly be the GOP nominee, then the only way to judge the significance of any drop in acuity (or “vigor” or whatever) in Biden’s case is in direct comparison to Trump. I happen to think it’s worse with Trump, but even if it’s not worse, it’s still there. And there are so many additional horrific things about Trump that Biden having lost his fastball barely even registers for me as an issue in the general election. (If the Dems had gotten real about running a different candidate, this would be a different conversation.) In fairness, Republicans were fine with Nancy Reagan basically running the country. Maybe "Republicans" are fine with Melania attempting to do the same.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 12, 2024 4:39:51 GMT -5
This is absolutely ridiculous. Today. The problem is that it may not be ridiculous in four or five years, and that's damn scary. Would you bet your last dollar that he could tell you the date without notes? Honest question. Been off line for a couple days, but I'll keep this short and sweet. Maybe. But then I sometimes need to ask my wife the date, so that's something of a so what question. I've listened to a number of Biden's speeches in recent months. Does he strike me as someone who has cognitive issues? Yes, but he's nowhere near the oatmeal for brains stage.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 12, 2024 7:29:58 GMT -5
Would you bet your last dollar that he could tell you the date without notes? Honest question. Been off line for a couple days, but I'll keep this short and sweet. Maybe. But then I sometimes need to ask my wife the date, so that's something of a so what question. I've listened to a number of Biden's speeches in recent months. Does he strike me as someone who has cognitive issues? Yes, but he's nowhere near the oatmeal for brains stage. And he's nowhere near the sociopath/psychopath stage.
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