blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on May 4, 2020 0:49:22 GMT -5
This year, perhaps more than any other year, I know less about the incoming freshman and transfer class and really have no clue who is going to contribute what. That’s not to say that this class doesn’t have the potential to be great, I just know very little. The last time I knew so little about a class was the Roy Hibbert, Jeff Green and Jonathan Wallace class and we know how good those guys turned out to be.
I am interested in learning where people rank the new guys in terms of who they think will be the biggest contributors next year.
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Post by hoyaroc on May 4, 2020 2:45:44 GMT -5
This year, perhaps more than any other year, I know less about the incoming freshman and transfer class and really have no clue who is going to contribute what. That’s not to say that this class doesn’t have the potential to be great, I just know very little. The last time I knew so little about a class was the Roy Hibbert, Jeff Green and Jonathan Wallace class and we know how good those guys turned out to be. I am interested in learning where people rank the new guys in terms of who they think will be the biggest contributors next year. I think Beard, Clark and Sibley will be big contributors as incoming freshmen. |
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Post by daveg023 on May 4, 2020 5:43:09 GMT -5
I think its two different things to rank the talent of the incoming players, versus guessing on the impact they may each have individually this coming year. I think Beard may be the most talented player, but may not get as many minutes due to Harris, but someone like Clark could be asked to play more minutes simply out of need. It will be interesting to see how all the new pieces shake out, and unfortunately we probably won't have Kenner to get some early intel on each. The non conference season might be more experimental then some will like, but it might be a necessary evil to determine the right rotations and playing time for a roster that has been completely turned over.
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Post by SSHoya on May 4, 2020 6:24:31 GMT -5
I think its two different things to rank the talent of the incoming players, versus guessing on the impact they may each have individually this coming year. I think Beard may be the most talented player, but may not get as many minutes due to Harris, but someone like Clark could be asked to play more minutes simply out of need. It will be interesting to see how all the new pieces shake out, and unfortunately we probably won't have Kenner to get some early intel on each. The non conference season might be more experimental then some will like, but it might be a necessary evil to determine the right rotations and playing time for a roster that has been completely turned over. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts? The modern concept of synergy. For anyone who has played team sports, it echoes the T.E.A.M. acronym —Together, Everyone Achieves More. We shall see. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 4, 2020 9:15:54 GMT -5
I feel qualified to rank them since I haven't seen any of them play:
1) Sibley. Mainly because of his ranking and our desperate need for minutes at his position.
2) Beard. See above. We need him to be really good out of the gates since we don't have a PG coming back.
3) Harris. See Above. We need a PG. He is a PG. Ergo Harris needs to be a beast.
4) Clark. Also at a position of need. I am sensing a trend here.
It seems like all should be really good (hoya colored lenses) and nobody is likely a first year star. Our improvement is going to have to come from Mac & Wahab and I think Pickett was starting to put it together at seasons end so hopefully a bounce from him. It is going to be those three that make us sink or swim with the grad transfers filling in holes and this group of four above providing the light at the end of the tunnel hopefully. I think you could easily shuffle the deck on this entire group as there is not a clear cut top dog like there was in last years class of Wahab.
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Post by s4hoyas on May 4, 2020 9:34:37 GMT -5
One common denominator to this class is speed/quickness...our guards are fast in the open court (J.Harris, D.Harris and Beard) and our wings are athletic
and long (Sibley, Clark and Bile)...all are at least decent 3 point shooters, though none in the elite/pure shooter category...I think this team will be exciting to watch and will play a lot of people and literally try to run teams off the court with the newly available depth...the challenge of course will be to develop consistency and continuity with a bunch of new (younger) players...I thought we needed in an ideal scenario, a big guard/pure shooter (Walton, Murray, possibly the Towson kid...I find it curious that we're not in his final list)...and a physical PF (like White from ASU)...right now, I'm not seeing either in our immediate radar...there is still time but options are diminishing...
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Post by blueandgray on May 4, 2020 13:00:29 GMT -5
One common denominator to this class is speed/quickness...our guards are fast in the open court (J.Harris, D.Harris and Beard) and our wings are athletic and long (Sibley, Clark and Bile)...all are at least decent 3 point shooters, though none in the elite/pure shooter category...I think this team will be exciting to watch and will play a lot of people and literally try to run teams off the court with the newly available depth...the challenge of course will be to develop consistency and continuity with a bunch of new (younger) players...I thought we needed in an ideal scenario, a big guard/pure shooter (Walton, Murray, possibly the Towson kid...I find it curious that we're not in his final list)...and a physical PF (like White from ASU)...right now, I'm not seeing either in our immediate radar...there is still time but options are diminishing... One other possible common denominator is passing....are these guys seem like better than average passers....or at a minimum better than a lot of the guys currently on the roster. |
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Post by SSHoya on May 4, 2020 13:08:08 GMT -5
One common denominator to this class is speed/quickness...our guards are fast in the open court (J.Harris, D.Harris and Beard) and our wings are athletic and long (Sibley, Clark and Bile)...all are at least decent 3 point shooters, though none in the elite/pure shooter category...I think this team will be exciting to watch and will play a lot of people and literally try to run teams off the court with the newly available depth...the challenge of course will be to develop consistency and continuity with a bunch of new (younger) players...I thought we needed in an ideal scenario, a big guard/pure shooter (Walton, Murray, possibly the Towson kid...I find it curious that we're not in his final list)...and a physical PF (like White from ASU)...right now, I'm not seeing either in our immediate radar...there is still time but options are diminishing... I hope speed and quickness can translate into some defensive prowess. |
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Post by s4hoyas on May 4, 2020 14:36:54 GMT -5
I agree on the passing...been missing in action the last few years, and its a MAJOR contributor to offensive success...if you watch the teams that have the most success, they are usually very good passing teams...also, good passing leads to better looks, and better looks lead to a higher shooting percentages...
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Post by bornhoya on May 9, 2020 13:10:15 GMT -5
I think Beard might be our best freshman next year but Clark might be the better one long term
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Post by hoyaroc on May 9, 2020 14:23:59 GMT -5
I think Beard might be our best freshman next year but Clark might be the better one long term I totally agree. But let’s not forget Sibley and D Harris has potential. |
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Post by hoya73 on May 9, 2020 15:12:52 GMT -5
I know we seem to have a lot more info on the recruits than back in the late 70s, but I always hope for "the next Sleepy Floyd" . Eric came in from N. Carolina with NO ACC offers and hit the ground running. Put up 28 on Maryland in the second game of freshman year and never looked. back.
I still think its possible for magic to spark just at the right time. Jeff and Otto are recent not quite as dramatic as Sleepy, but great freshman surprises. Hard to predict who the next surprise will be. Good candidates this year.
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Post by drob12 on May 9, 2020 16:14:29 GMT -5
This should be a solid class with potential for more than that. From the way people talk on this board, you would think Patrick had brought in a worse class than GW, but this was still a top-40 class nationally and fourth best in the conference (including UConn) per 247
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Post by hoyazeke on May 9, 2020 17:14:42 GMT -5
Just based off highlight videos and team needs I would rank the freshmen 1.) Sibley, 2.) Beard, 3.) Harris and 4.) Clark. I expect Mac to come back which will leave few minutes for the freshmen guards/wings. Beard just seems like the type of kid that will kick his way through the PT door. Sibley plays a position that is barren and will have to play. Unless Wilson or Bile show out. If that happens I will switch Clark and Sibley.....
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Post by trillesthoya on May 9, 2020 17:19:53 GMT -5
I can't really rank them. In terms of upside its Sibley, Beard, Clark, Harris. In terms of their impact at Georgetown I have no idea, but I think Beard is the safest bet to contribute immediately and often.
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 10, 2020 8:01:48 GMT -5
I can't really rank them. In terms of upside its Sibley, Beard, Clark, Harris. In terms of their impact at Georgetown I have no idea, but I think Beard is the safest bet to contribute immediately and often. I agree. Beard seems the most physically ready to fill the role that he was recruited for. |
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Post by BigmanU on May 10, 2020 16:32:09 GMT -5
I don't know, seems like Beard turned it on his Sr. season after a disappointing Jr. season. Saying that, he may take time to adjust to the next level. He could also hit the ground running. TBD, I Hope the latter.
Of the guards Harris short term may make an immediate impact, but Clark & Beard more long term. I have no inside knowledge, I don't know. Just my two cents.
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Post by bornhoya on May 10, 2020 19:07:15 GMT -5
I think Beard might be our best freshman next year but Clark might be the better one long term I totally agree. But let’s not forget Sibley and D Harris has potential. I like Sibley too but Clark has that all around game and after some experience and a lil more dog in him. I think he could push for a all Big East team |
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 13, 2020 11:28:21 GMT -5
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