DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 29, 2020 8:11:25 GMT -5
Let’s try hitting the open shots when they come in the offense. This is a series sweep that needs to happen.
Addition on edit:
Coach Ewing should shout "WAKE THE %#@& UP!!!" in the lockerroom pregame rather than 3 minutes into the game during a timeout.
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 29, 2020 8:19:31 GMT -5
Going to this game and not even excited anymore
Who is going to have career shooting night for them?
I like the guys, but We are flawed team, lack of talent really hurts and BE is loaded this year
(Maybe I’m just still depressed after Butler)
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 29, 2020 8:50:11 GMT -5
Haven't seen a conference road game that even remotely resembles a halfway decent effort yet this season.
Putting this one on Mac and Yurt to finally do their part this time around, but Ewing also has to prepare as if Anderson is going to make adjustments, because he will. Would imagine a lot more PnR than we saw the first time around. They don't have great shooters but we still have to know who the 1-2 guys are that we need to stay home on.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 29, 2020 9:29:20 GMT -5
Let’s try hitting the open shots when they come in the offense. This is a series sweep that needs to happen. Mac needs to let the shots come to him and not force so much. You don't get going by forcing bad shots.
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 29, 2020 9:37:18 GMT -5
It’s a fine line between being aggressive, which is good and we need and hunting.
Mac plays on that line for sure.
Bigger thing for me is the degree of difficulty is so high, he rarely gets easy look.
Need other guys to be more aggressive candidly
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 29, 2020 9:37:21 GMT -5
I was planning on going, but last night is still stinging. Hopefully by this weekend that taste will be gone and I look forward to supporting the team.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 29, 2020 10:39:16 GMT -5
St. Johns was starting to make adjustments in the 2nd half of their game against us. They started running a lot more ball screen action and started to make a dent. This is not going to be nearly as easy as the first one. They want to play fast, we handled it well in the first game but it does have a chance to feed our worst instincts as a team
First game at the Garden I'll be missing in a while, desperately hoping they can pull it together.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 29, 2020 11:32:16 GMT -5
It’s a fine line between being aggressive, which is good and we need and hunting. Mac plays on that line for sure. Bigger thing for me is the degree of difficulty is so high, he rarely gets easy look. Need other guys to be more aggressive candidly You want a guy who is confident he can make any shot. As long as he has the judgment to recognize the ones that are too low-percentage to actually take.
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mdtd
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Post by mdtd on Jan 29, 2020 13:37:09 GMT -5
This St. John's team can't shoot. I have no faith in either team. I think the winner here gets momentum that is needed and it is a must-win for both teams. I think matchups favor the Hoyas, but not over the home court for St. John's. Allen did very well against the press, so he needs to do that again. This is also a potential look-ahead spot, though this team doesn't seem to have the right to or the guys who would look ahead to Seton Hall. I have no faith in either team winning this game. None. Both have slumped and have shown little in the last few games, sans Hoyas first half. It's going to be gritty and one you have to win the loose balls too. Mac seems good in the Garden, so I hope that sticks. No faith in either side. Points will be scored and St. John's will miss open looks while the Hoyas fail to rebound those open looks or keep giving open looks until eventually, the Johnnies hit one.
80-80 Tie is my current prediction.
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joey0403p
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 29, 2020 15:33:41 GMT -5
We haven’t sniffed 80 in a while
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Jan 29, 2020 20:54:34 GMT -5
We haven’t sniffed 80 in a while It has been quite a decline. Big East defenses have gotten to us. We have had more bad than good experiences-- Providence - 60 SHU - 62 Villanova - 66 Xavier - 57 Butler - 64 Basically, when we score a lot of points, we have a chance. We are 2-1 in league play scoring 80. We just aren't scoring in that range often.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jan 30, 2020 7:52:30 GMT -5
Have to go 2-1 in our next three to keep things interesting over the last month. Starts on Sunday.
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 30, 2020 11:39:10 GMT -5
We haven’t sniffed 80 in a while It has been quite a decline. Big East defenses have gotten to us. We have had more bad than good experiences-- Providence - 60 SHU - 62 Villanova - 66 Xavier - 57 Butler - 64 Basically, when we score a lot of points, we have a chance. We are 2-1 in league play scoring 80. We just aren't scoring in that range often. Don't know how much has been BE defenses (except X) and how much is ourselves....we were well on our way to 80 against Butler but too many missed bunnies changed the outcome..
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Post by mdtd on Jan 30, 2020 14:00:52 GMT -5
The key in this one is if St. Johns can hit outside jumpers. Their three-point shooting percentage (T310 in the country, 30.2%) rivals our three-point defense (T305 in the country, 36%) so it's going to come down to that. Who's weakness gets exploited. Either ours does, or theirs. Xavier is also a poor shooting team, but the difference there is Xavier can beat you inside with bigs, St. John's can't. St. John's bigs aren't great and Allen and Mosely can handle that pressure. It will come down to their three-point shooting. Last game it was horrific, this one who knows.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 30, 2020 17:24:51 GMT -5
It has been quite a decline. Big East defenses have gotten to us. We have had more bad than good experiences-- Providence - 60 SHU - 62 Villanova - 66 Xavier - 57 Butler - 64 Basically, when we score a lot of points, we have a chance. We are 2-1 in league play scoring 80. We just aren't scoring in that range often. Don't know how much has been BE defenses (except X) and how much is ourselves....we were well on our way to 80 against Butler but too many missed bunnies changed the outcome.. I worry less about hitting 80 and more about being inefficient. While our overall offensive rank is still pretty good, it masks the fact that since we entered conference play it's really bad. Our KenPom adjusted efficiency on offense in conference is 99.8, which is 7/10 in the Big East. Our Big East games are generally slower than our OOC games, so I would worry less about the 80, than simply being efficient (which we are not doing). That said, both stats show the same thing - our offense has been struggling against the better Big East defenses.
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Post by richfame on Jan 30, 2020 18:57:39 GMT -5
I will be in person at this game. I rarely bring home a loss! Go hoyas
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Jan 30, 2020 21:44:12 GMT -5
Don't know how much has been BE defenses (except X) and how much is ourselves....we were well on our way to 80 against Butler but too many missed bunnies changed the outcome.. I worry less about hitting 80 and more about being inefficient. While our overall offensive rank is still pretty good, it masks the fact that since we entered conference play it's really bad. Our KenPom adjusted efficiency on offense in conference is 99.8, which is 7/10 in the Big East. Our Big East games are generally slower than our OOC games, so I would worry less about the 80, than simply being efficient (which we are not doing). That said, both stats show the same thing - our offense has been struggling against the better Big East defenses. I agree that efficiency matters. That said, I also think the stats show that our defense isn't really good enough to beat anyone right now. We can out score teams, but we can't win with key defense in clutch moments. On the whole, I thought our defense played better late against Butler than it did in some other games. We made an adjustment out of the timeout, which worked a bit. But in the final minute or so, there were still breakdowns that affected the game. The bad call didn't help, but bottom line -- they got open looks, we didn't sink shots. I don't see how this team wins many more games unless it can score more points. Maybe not 80 but at least 70-75 with consistency. We did it for 20 minutes against Butler, but not 40. In some ways, that has been our problem since league play started. We can play 20 minutes of good basketball, but not 40. Hope this weekend sparks a turnaround.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 31, 2020 7:47:46 GMT -5
If I’m not mistaken we’ve won both road games at the Garden under Ewing against St Johns. We did however lose to them in the first round of the BET tournament in Year 1.
I have no feel for this game what so ever and anything from a Hoya blowout win to a St Johns blow out win feels like it’s possible. Based on averages and long term sample size, St Johns should be a good matchup for us given their weak shooting and lack of size, but their pressure defense in the 2nd half in the first game in DC was quite effective plus I don’t think we can expect Heron to be virtually invisible again.
I plan on being there, but fear my attendance coupled with the possibility of teal unis might just be too much bad energy to overcome. Let’s hope for navy for the sake of evening out the cosmic forces.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 31, 2020 9:51:38 GMT -5
The bottom-line: this is the Hoyas best chance for a road win in conference. We play well in MSG, SJU is a decent match- up for us and they will not have much of a home court advantage with the fans. If we cannot get the W here, it is very conceivable we go 0-9 on the road in conference play, which is simply an unacceptable level of bad to me.
I can easily see us losing, but I am hoping all the factors above combine to get us a much needed win.
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Post by drquigley on Jan 31, 2020 10:40:28 GMT -5
The key in this one is if St. Johns can hit outside jumpers. Their three-point shooting percentage (T310 in the country, 30.2%) rivals our three-point defense (T305 in the country, 36%) so it's going to come down to that. Who's weakness gets exploited. Either ours does, or theirs. Xavier is also a poor shooting team, but the difference there is Xavier can beat you inside with bigs, St. John's can't. St. John's bigs aren't great and Allen and Mosely can handle that pressure. It will come down to their three-point shooting. Last game it was horrific, this one who knows. If there was ever a game for us to go 2-3 zone this is it. They can't shoot 3's so just pack the paint, get the rebounds and run.
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