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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 19, 2019 19:38:31 GMT -5
Terps with 8 points with 3 mins left in the half. Yikes!!
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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 19, 2019 21:09:18 GMT -5
Terps lose to a depleted Seton Hall team. What's that about Big Ten superiority?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 19, 2019 21:12:40 GMT -5
Myles Powell. Addition by subtraction lol.
Apparently all the BE teams should lose their perceived best player and they'll get much better lol.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 19, 2019 21:48:19 GMT -5
Lawrence Funderburk’s kid is playing for NC State.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 19, 2019 22:35:43 GMT -5
Myles Powell. Addition by subtraction lol. Apparently all the BE teams should lose their perceived best player and they'll get much better lol. The Ewing Theory has come to the BE this year.
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Post by SDHoya on Dec 19, 2019 22:49:09 GMT -5
Myles Powell. Addition by subtraction lol. Apparently all the BE teams should lose their perceived best player and they'll get much better lol. The Ewing Theory has come to the BE this year. Hall basically rallied defensively to win this one, but their offense was offensive. Not sure that’s a sustainable thing. Hoyas have been markedly better on both sides of the ball.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 20, 2019 1:58:31 GMT -5
I concur with SD. First of all what we saw in that game was a travesty from both parties. Seton Hall was desperate and obviously all week long the emphasis was on raising the defensive intensity even more because Willard understood his team had no chance to beat the Terps without holding down the points total. And that's what happened. But here's the thing...I came away unimpressed with both teams. Yes give SH credit fr getting the win I and others thought they had no chance at getting. But that defense is only going to be that decisive if it comes across a team with a lack of imagination or even common sense on offense. And that's who the Hall went up against tonight. Turgeon's Terps have too much talent, including a senior starting guard who is on track to make an All Conference team, to be stuck with less than ten points with four minutes to go in the first half. That is inexcusable for any team, let alone one from a Power Five conference who also happens to be ranked #7 going into the game.
As a Hoya fan, particularly one who has hated Maryland more than any other program, I came away encouraged. My nemesis the Terps accumulated a loss that they should not have and exposed themselves as appearing still not ready to win the Big Ten. On the other hand if this is the Seton Hall team that the Hoyas end up facing in the first two weeks of the BE schedule, if their two leading scorers haven't returned by them, then I am loving Georgetown's chances even more. Also the win helps Seton Hall's rating which means victories over them could give slight boost to opposing teams while losses won't be the huge detriment as it appears it would be for losing to a Providence.
Going back to the Terps I hope the team does well enough to keep Turgeon ultimately but not well enough to draw heaps of national attention all season long or win any huge post season titles. Even despite being out of the ACC, this program can indeed be a top ten program annually if it was led by a better coach.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 3:03:06 GMT -5
Seton Hall blocked (15) more shots than Maryland made (14).
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 20, 2019 7:47:29 GMT -5
It’s college basketball, so a team can have an off night for a number of reasons. It doesn’t mean the coach sucks or the program needs an overhaul.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 20, 2019 8:44:11 GMT -5
The Ewing Theory has come to the BE this year. Hall basically rallied defensively to win this one, but their offense was offensive. Not sure that’s a sustainable thing. Hoyas have been markedly better on both sides of the ball. absolutely agree I was just joking. This was the classic team rallies for one game after a set back type game. I doubt they can sustain it without powell the way we have without akinjo.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 20, 2019 9:02:58 GMT -5
It’s college basketball, so a team can have an off night for a number of reasons. It doesn’t mean the coach sucks or the program needs an overhaul. You must be new here. 😂
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Post by drquigley on Dec 20, 2019 10:44:57 GMT -5
Okay so maybe I'm a cup half empty kind of guy but I watched this game and saw all sorts of problems for the Hoyas. First was the defensive intensity of SH. Those guys gave Cowen and Wiggins fits. I can see them doing the same to our guards. Second was how dominant SH big men were. 15 blocks! I've been unimpressed by Yurt when confronted by athletic big men. Syracuse big man completely intimidated Yurt. Gill and Obigue will definitely give Yurt fits. Finally, SH coach, like PE, deserves tremendous credit for adjusting on the fly after losing his two best players. I'm afraid SH has tasted the fruits of great defense and will carry that defense into the BE season. I agree that SH offense is lacking without Powell but I'm sure he will be back for us and their offense will improve substantially. And yes I agree that Turgeon sucks. If I were a Terp alum I'd be very upset if they fail to battle Ohio State for the Big10 championship and don't make a run at the final four.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 21, 2019 10:52:41 GMT -5
Okay so maybe I'm a cup half empty kind of guy but I watched this game and saw all sorts of problems for the Hoyas. First was the defensive intensity of SH. Those guys gave Cowen and Wiggins fits. I can see them doing the same to our guards. Second was how dominant SH big men were. 15 blocks! I've been unimpressed by Yurt when confronted by athletic big men. Syracuse big man completely intimidated Yurt. Gill and Obigue will definitely give Yurt fits. Finally, SH coach, like PE, deserves tremendous credit for adjusting on the fly after losing his two best players. I'm afraid SH has tasted the fruits of great defense and will carry that defense into the BE season. I agree that SH offense is lacking without Powell but I'm sure he will be back for us and their offense will improve substantially. And yes I agree that Turgeon sucks. If I were a Terp alum I'd be very upset if they fail to battle Ohio State for the Big10 championship and don't make a run at the final four. I still don't get this narrative forming by some people regarding Yurtseven. He has played very well against some of the best big men in college over the course of his career but he was intimidated by the guys at Syracuse who will never see the NBA? Not just intimidated but "completely intimidated"? Dude faces off against just as athletic bigs in practice with his three backups. I'll just agree to disagree. As for SH it has played several games so far and none of its defensive showings were nearly as strong as its game against Maryland. That was Virginia-like. Only thing is there is no evidence to suggest that it can accomplish this two games in a role let alone the rest of the season. Sorry but I'm putting the onus as much on Maryland itself for its lack of an imaginative offense; the Terps have been struggling on O the past couple of games including previously against Penn State in which they also fell behind because they couldn't score. Lastly as of this very moment SH/Willard doesn't deserve credit like Ewing deserves. SH has won exactly one game in a row and that game was played at home. Yes, it came against a top ten team but that said team is considered overrated by its own fans and it proved it Thursday night. Also Willard wasn't dealing with a swirling controversy regarding the actions of his players, the reasons for why his players have been transferring, grilling from the media, etc. Ewing had to contend with all of that while getting his remaining guys to keep up the fight, first after he lost two KEY components and then after he lost two more players. Despite all of this Ewing has the team playing better on BOTH sides of the ball during a four game winning streak, the best they've played all season, while Willard saw his team play great for one game on one side of the ball. Ewing got two of his wins on the road against previously undefeated opponents to boot. Last of all there is a major difference between the SH players who are charged with stepping up their game and holding the fort knowing that the cavalry shall return when key players come back as opposed to the Hoya players who have to deal with the reality that their former teammates aren't coming back and therefore they will have to handle the load on their own the rest of the way. That's a mental advantage for the Seton Hall guys and it will be a physical one eventually too because they will have more bodies to work with. That said if SH keeps playing defense like this the rest of the way I'll give them their due props.
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 21, 2019 11:16:33 GMT -5
SMU lost to UGA in double OT. It’s not a bad loss on the road but it shows that SMU isn’t that good. We get the benefit of the perception of beating an undefeated team. At the end of the year I don’t think it’s going to look that good though. Hoping it stays a Quadrant 2 win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 11:40:14 GMT -5
SMU lost to UGA in double OT. It’s not a bad loss on the road but it shows that SMU isn’t that good. We get the benefit of the perception of beating an undefeated team. At the end of the year I don’t think it’s going to look that good though. Hoping it stays a Quadrant 2 win. Georgia had a higher Net ranking than SMU. SMU was basically right at 100 in Net. Were there a bunch of people claiming SMU was really good or something?
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 21, 2019 12:55:47 GMT -5
SMU lost to UGA in double OT. It’s not a bad loss on the road but it shows that SMU isn’t that good. We get the benefit of the perception of beating an undefeated team. At the end of the year I don’t think it’s going to look that good though. Hoping it stays a Quadrant 2 win. Georgia had a higher Net ranking than SMU. SMU was basically right at 100 in Net. Were there a bunch of people claiming SMU was really good or something? Yes you must’ve missed the victory parade on here after we went on the road and beat two undefeated teams.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 12:57:35 GMT -5
Georgia had a higher Net ranking than SMU. SMU was basically right at 100 in Net. Were there a bunch of people claiming SMU was really good or something? Yes you must’ve missed the victory parade on here after we went on the road and beat two undefeated teams. No. I missed the part where people were saying SMU was really good. People on the board are usually happy when we win especially considering the circumstances.
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 21, 2019 13:03:38 GMT -5
Villanova was 5-21 from 3 in the first half against Kansas. It’s crazy to me how many 3s they take but this is scary given our weakness. On the flipside they have no interior presence and Yurt should be able to score quite a few. That being said we can’t trade 3s for 2s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 14:07:07 GMT -5
Nova knocks off #1.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 21, 2019 14:13:11 GMT -5
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