Patrick Ewing on WFAN's "Joe and Evan" show this afternoon

[njhoya78]

wfan.radio.com/articles/ewing-i-wasnt-given-opportunity-i-have-one-now

Interesting in that when he was asked about potential future NBA job offers, Ewing answered that he'd have to listen but that he's happy where he is at present.

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Same

[LCPolo18]

More notes from whipple on CasualHoya:

-coaching harder than playing
-always great to come back home, MSG is still the Mecca; wounded warriors is great
-experience of good competition—great, have to bring our A game
-all these games get us prepared for when Big East kicks in, and hopefully NCAA tournament
-big man bias for NBA coach—for whatever reason we think big men are stupid.
-I called the defense when I was on the floor. I also called the offensive plays
-my goal is to be the best coach I can be where I am now
-more difficult to coach college—recruiting. 24/7, 365; make sure they practice, get to class, not get into trouble—he loves it!
-being HoF it doesn’t help—parents say "i love you, you’re the best" and … "I haven’t got any of their kids"
-Knick days—is there a memory that jumps out? Best was beating Indiana. Knicks need some time.
-i also could shoot, i always could score. Thompson wanted me to work on other expects
-curse Van Gundy and Riley for the bad knees—making me trap on every pick and roll
-I’m coaching Georgetown, if anybody (from the NBA) comes calling, I’ll listen, but I’m [enjoying coaching]…
-I had a great college career, and some great players around me, and a great coach
-NY experience: started out rocky, injuries, coaches come and go. stability brought success, great experience
-Last great Knicks moment: beating Heat/Alonzo—we had some great battles, frined of mine, god father of his kids.
-walked off the bench and got suspended, unfair.

[Hoya Rich]

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but he was also on Mike Lupica's podcast the other day, and his candor was startling on one point: he said his name value has meant little-to-nothing to recruits and has prevented him from landing a "high-level" recruit. He probably could have chosen his words a little more carefully but the bluntness was refreshing.

[prhoya]

Nov 19, 2019 17:17:11 GMT -5 Hoya Rich said:

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but he was also on Mike Lupica's podcast the other day, and his candor was startling on one point: he said his name value has meant little-to-nothing to recruits and has prevented him from landing a "high-level" recruit. He probably could have chosen his words a little more carefully but the bluntness was refreshing.

It got him Omer.

[hoyasaxa2003]

Nov 19, 2019 17:17:11 GMT -5 Hoya Rich said:

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but he was also on Mike Lupica's podcast the other day, and his candor was startling on one point: he said his name value has meant little-to-nothing to recruits and has prevented him from landing a "high-level" recruit. He probably could have chosen his words a little more carefully but the bluntness was refreshing.

It's good to see the honesty though. It is probably annoying to be a Hall of Fame player and not have that be all that relevant to the kids, but it's the way it is. Unfortunately, for Ewing his stardom occurred so long ago that it's long removed from the current set of recruits. I do think there is a certain type of kid who would really appreciate it (as prhoya says, Yurtseven), but it's less meaningful when these 16/17 year olds never saw him play. It doesn't help that he was also a Hall of Fame player at a position that has changed so much in the last 10-15 years.

[SaxaCD]

Nov 19, 2019 17:24:13 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Nov 19, 2019 17:17:11 GMT -5 Hoya Rich said:

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but he was also on Mike Lupica's podcast the other day, and his candor was startling on one point: he said his name value has meant little-to-nothing to recruits and has prevented him from landing a "high-level" recruit. He probably could have chosen his words a little more carefully but the bluntness was refreshing.

It got him Omer.

I still think this could be a unique sweet spot -- getting transfer guys who want a pro mentor for a year or two. It's why I would have recruited one fewer big -- to keep that spot open for a grad transfer or guy in Omer's shoes. I think if Omer has the year we all think he will, there will be other older big guys thinking that path is a pretty good idea.

[prhoya]

Nov 19, 2019 17:52:27 GMT -5 SaxaCD said:

Nov 19, 2019 17:24:13 GMT -5 prhoya said:

It got him Omer.

I still think this could be a unique sweet spot -- getting transfer guys who want a pro mentor for a year or two. It's why I would have recruited one fewer big -- to keep that spot open for a grad transfer or guy in Omer's shoes. I think if Omer has the year we all think it will, there will be other older big guys thinking that path is a pretty good idea.

Agree x 💯

[DFW HOYA]

Nov 19, 2019 17:17:11 GMT -5 Hoya Rich said:

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but he was also on Mike Lupica's podcast the other day, and his candor was startling on one point: he said his name value has meant little-to-nothing to recruits and has prevented him from landing a "high-level" recruit. He probably could have chosen his words a little more carefully but the bluntness was refreshing.

That's probably true but a lot of coaches have names that mean less to recruits that are still attracted by younger assistants. Georgetown's assistants are, by comparison, older. Orr is 61, Kirby is 58.

[richfame]

I heard the interview live. I live in CT. Joe and Evan did a great job with the interview. I thought Ewing came across likable and dedicated to getting Georgetown back to a national contender.
Thought it was interesting when he’s said his fame has not always translated to recruiting results.

[madgesiq92]

Xavier’s Coach has put together a top 10 class in year 2. It is fair to say that recruiting has not gone as expected yet for Ewing.

[guru]

Nov 19, 2019 19:05:21 GMT -5 madgesiq92 said:

Xavier’s Coach has put together a top 10 class in year 2. It is fair to say that recruiting has not gone as expected yet for Ewing.

Well, he’s had 5 first team All-Rookie players in his first 2 seasons, so this seems to be an area where he’s actually doing fine.

[95hoya]

Nov 19, 2019 19:14:22 GMT -5 guru said:

Nov 19, 2019 19:05:21 GMT -5 madgesiq92 said:

Xavier’s Coach has put together a top 10 class in year 2. It is fair to say that recruiting has not gone as expected yet for Ewing.

Well, he’s had 5 first team All-Rookie players in his first 2 seasons, so this seems to be an area where he’s actually doing fine.

That's more due to having to rely on freshman than anything else.

[LCPolo18]

Nov 19, 2019 19:05:21 GMT -5 madgesiq92 said:

Xavier’s Coach has put together a top 10 class in year 2. It is fair to say that recruiting has not gone as expected yet for Ewing.

I’m sure Steele’s 10 seasons as an assistant at Xavier and serving as the top recruiting assistant had nothing to do with his current recruiting results. But yeah, definitely an apples to apples comparison to Ewing.

At least try a little harder when you’re criticizing Ewing, I know you can do better.

[TC]

Nov 19, 2019 23:42:40 GMT -5 LCPolo18 said:

Nov 19, 2019 19:05:21 GMT -5 madgesiq92 said:

Xavier’s Coach has put together a top 10 class in year 2. It is fair to say that recruiting has not gone as expected yet for Ewing.

I’m sure Steele’s 10 seasons as an assistant at Xavier and serving as the top recruiting assistant had nothing to do with his current recruiting results. But yeah, definitely an apples to apples comparison to Ewing.

It's the same conference, similar type school - it pretty much is an apples to apples comparison. Who knows whether Steele can do something with it, but that's not a comparison to a North Carolina or a Duke or a Kentucky - it's Xavier.

How much of a curve do we need to grade him on? If hiring a guy who had never coached college and never done recruiting before is such a poor comparison, maybe that's a pretty damning indictment of the people who hired him.

BTW, I think the jury is still out, but there needs to be an NCAA bid this year or next.

[LCPolo18]

Nov 20, 2019 0:17:47 GMT -5 TC said:

Nov 19, 2019 23:42:40 GMT -5 LCPolo18 said:

I’m sure Steele’s 10 seasons as an assistant at Xavier and serving as the top recruiting assistant had nothing to do with his current recruiting results. But yeah, definitely an apples to apples comparison to Ewing.

It's the same conference, similar type school - it pretty much is an apples to apples comparison. Who knows whether Steele can do something with it, but that's not a comparison to a North Carolina or a Duke or a Kentucky - it's Xavier.

How much of a curve do we need to grade him on? If hiring a guy who had never coached college and never done recruiting before is such a poor comparison, maybe that's a pretty damning indictment of the people who hired him.

BTW, I think the jury is still out, but there needs to be an NCAA bid this year or next.

You just compared the schools, not the coaches. No argument from me that Xavier and Georgetown should be able to recruit similarly.

If you want to be negative, you could call it an indictment. I think those that made the decision would consider it a risk they accepted when hiring Ewing. But I think you misunderstood my comment. Steele had 10 years to establish a relationship with recruits before becoming the head coach. Ewing probably hadn’t even heard of any of these recruits before being hired. So it’s not necessarily recruiting experience that I’m talking about, it’s the relationships Steele came into the job with.

I completely agree with you that there needs to be an NCAA bid this year or next.

[Bigs"R"Us]

We are top-10 when it comes to basketball budget. We are doing less with more.

[LCPolo18]

Nov 20, 2019 8:26:40 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

We are top-10 when it comes to basketball budget. We are doing less with more.

And how much of that budget is Capital One Arena rent?