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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 14:35:41 GMT -5
6.Georgetown Hoyas The first two years of the Patrick Ewing era have been kind of a wait and see as the talent hasn’t been there just yet and expectations still were relatively low. Now in year three for Patrick Ewing, it will be time to finally get a reading as to just how good of a coach he actually is. The team has a good duo of now Sophomores in James Akinjo and Mac McClung to pair with former NC State star Omer Yurtseven who has been an elite level offensive threat at the ACC level. This team is going to score the ball at a high level this season and will likely be the highest-scoring team in the league if they can get improvements defensively this team will be able to get an at-large bid and maybe contend near the top of the Big East. Georgetown will look for big contributions from lead guard James Akinjo who is an excellent passer and a capable shooter. If he can limit the number of turnovers and get better defensively he can be a First-Team All-Big East player. Mac McClung will look to continue to be an option offensively. He’s a great athlete, an improved shot would make him one of the toughest guards in the league. NC State transfer Omer Yurtseven will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience from his time at NC State, he’s a good scorer, rebounder and is a good shooter for a big man. While those three will provide the majority of the scoring offensively the team will need others to play a factor as well. Among those is UCF transfer Terrell Allen, who will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience. He’s a good shooter which will help this team stretch the floor and a capable defender. Josh LeBlanc is an athletic combo forward, he’s a really efficient scorer inside and is a decent rim protector. Junior Jamorko Pickett is another good stretch-4, he’s a 35 percent shooter from deep and is very athletic. Jagan Mosley is someone that can handle the ball off the bench, he isn’t a real threat scoring-wise but is a really good passer. Elsewhere, Jahvon Blair acts as a good floor-spacing guard, he mostly just shoots it from beyond the arc and is s good ball-handler. Final Analysis: This Georgetown team certainly has the offensive pieces to make their first NCAA Tournament under Head Coach. Yurtseven certainly opens the offense up due to his ability to score from anywhere on the court which will only help this team offensively. If this team can get the necessary improvements from James Akinjo and Mac McClung when it comes to turnovers and shooting than this team not only will get back to the Tournament but they could also compete near the top of the league standings. Projected rotation: PG: James Akinjo Sophomore 6’0” SG: Mac McClung Sophomore 6’2” SF: Terrell Allen Senior 6’3” PF: Josh LeBlanc Sophomore 6’7” C: Omer Yurtseven Junior 7’0” Key Reserves: Jamorko Pickett, Jagan Mosley, Jahvon Blair, Galen Alexander makingthemadness.com/big-east-conference-preview-2/
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Post by prhoya on Oct 22, 2019 14:39:12 GMT -5
How can a team that is "a true threat to win at least 85% of its games" (aka up to 26-5) be " close to making the NCAA Tournament"? Exactly. With our schedule, that’s a top 10 team.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 22, 2019 15:13:55 GMT -5
How can a team that is "a true threat to win at least 85% of its games" (aka up to 26-5) be " close to making the NCAA Tournament"? By failing to come through on the threat? A threat to win 85% isn't the same as a sure fire winner of 85%. Not saying we won't but we see a lot of "threats" that don't materialize.
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 22, 2019 15:22:57 GMT -5
I want to know-
Against which teams are we not a threat to win? I don’t count any game as one in which we are not a threat to win....even against Duke.
Look we are going have brain fart games when the team doesn’t show up, and we are going to be disappointed when we lose. There will be a few games when an outstanding performance beats us.
Our ceiling to my eyes is Top 10 and Elite 8 or better. Will that happen? Probably not, but I think that is our ceiling.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 22, 2019 15:32:40 GMT -5
Friday, October 18, 2019 Georgetown Preview Georgetown Hoyas January 18, Capitol One Center, Washington, D.C.; February 26, fiserv.forum Coach: Patrick Ewing (34-29) 3-Year NCAA Rank Average: 118.0 3-Year kenpom Average: 87.7 2019-20 T-Rank Projection: 42 Projected Starters: PG James Akinjo (6'0" So), SG Mac McClung (6'2" So), SF Jamorko Pickett (6'8" Jr), PF Josh LeBlanc (6'7" So), C Omer Yurtseven (7'0" Jr) Georgetown had about as mediocre a year as one could have last year. Non-con losses to Loyola-Marymount and SMU were head-scratchers and did damage to what was a very favorable schedule. In conference play, they split with 7 of their 9 opponents, sweeping only Providence and being swept by Creighton. So while they won some big games, they lost some bad ones as well. In Ewing's second season, they fell in the kenpom rankings for the second straight year, from 69 under Thompson III to 94 in Ewing's first year and 100 last year. They also lose leading scorer and rebounder Jessie Govan. So where's the optimism? A great freshman class, buoyed by the Big East Rookie of the Year, James Akinjo. Both of their backcourt debutants averaged over 13 ppg, though multi-talented Josh LeBlanc was the most efficient offensively while providing boards on both ends. In addition, Yurtseven provides a big, experienced presence to be a like-for-like replacement for Govan and immediately is a contender with Theo John for best big man in the Big East. Pickett, the first big recruiting win for Ewing, has been terrible offensively (sub-90 ORtg his first two years) but provides needed length on defense. The bench is thin. Jagan Mosely, Jahvon Blair, and grad transfer Terrell Allen are competent backups, but are 6'3". Galen Alexander is the only real front court relief, aside from a bundle of expected freshmen projects. On offense, Georgetown plays ultra-fast, a sharp contrast from the Thompson years. Despite finishing in the top two in the league in pace every year under Ewing, they also finished in the bottom four in efficiency. The reason is twofold. First, because players like Blair, Pickett, and Akinjo have been indisputably terrible inside the arc and because Jessie Govan, who had the highest interior usage, was mediocre (52.8 2PFG% the last two years) in that regard. Further, while they're a more efficient team from three, they don't take a ton of shots outside the arc. They will hope another year of experience will improve upon that, but it's the same poor finishers and Omer Yurtseven's 54.8 2PFG% in two years at NC State is only a slight upgrade from Govan. Defensively, there's no real identity. Despite Ewing being a staunch defender as a player (like Wojo) he hasn't been able to convey that to his team. They don't have enough depth and length to stick with a zone and usually seem overmatched in man. I've seen Hoyas fans indicating that was largely Govan's fault as an immobile tree that only blocked shots, but if the answer to that is Yurtseven, I don't think expectations should change much. On paper, Georgetown looks like a clear #7 in the Big East. They have some talent, but the ball will likely spend too much time in the hands of less efficient players like Akinjo and McClung. If Yurtseven fits in immediately and they run the offense through him and LeBlanc while finding a defensive identity, maybe they can move up in the pecking order, but they just seem to have too many holes in the starting lineup and especially bench to be a top-half team. The ability to get Ewing's first NCAA berth is there, but it's worth noting that despite the optimism around the program, they have regressed in overall efficiency rankings per Pomeroy in each of his first two seasons. Marquette Memory: After narrow wins over St. John's and Villanova, Marquette was one win away from reaching the 2010 Big East Tournament final. The only thing standing in their way was a Georgetown team they had beaten 3 straight times, including a 62-59 win in D.C. earlier that year. From the outset, it wasn't meant to be. Georgetown started on a 15-4 run and every time Marquette surged back, the Hoyas had an answer. Maurice Acker's layup pulled Marquette to a manageable 56-51 deficit before a decisive 14-1 Georgetown run put the game away. Greg Monroe led the Hoyas with 23 points, 13 rebounds, and 7 assists as they ran Marquette out of MSG with a 23-point defeat. www.crackedsidewalks.com/2019/10/This is stunningly lazy. I get that it is an MU blog, but MU relies on a short superstar guard and their only comment on our backup guards is that they are "only" 6'3"? All three frosh Cs are "expected... projects" despite Q being Top 150, Malcolm having potential and Tim I getting rave reviews at the G League showcase? I get that we are unproven, but damn, these guys are going to have a lot of words to eat at season's end.
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Post by HometownHoya on Oct 22, 2019 16:48:43 GMT -5
6.Georgetown Hoyas Projected rotation: PG: James Akinjo Sophomore 6’0” SG: Mac McClung Sophomore 6’2” SF: Terrell Allen Senior 6’3” PF: Josh LeBlanc Sophomore 6’7” C: Omer Yurtseven Junior 7’0” Key Reserves: Jamorko Pickett, Jagan Mosley, Jahvon Blair, Galen Alexander makingthemadness.com/big-east-conference-preview-2/Tarrell Allen starting? I doubt it but if none of the 3s step up, I'm sure we'll have a lot of 3 guard sets.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 22, 2019 17:30:27 GMT -5
Friday, October 18, 2019 Georgetown Preview Georgetown Hoyas January 18, Capitol One Center, Washington, D.C.; February 26, fiserv.forum Coach: Patrick Ewing (34-29) 3-Year NCAA Rank Average: 118.0 3-Year kenpom Average: 87.7 2019-20 T-Rank Projection: 42 Projected Starters: PG James Akinjo (6'0" So), SG Mac McClung (6'2" So), SF Jamorko Pickett (6'8" Jr), PF Josh LeBlanc (6'7" So), C Omer Yurtseven (7'0" Jr) ... On paper, Georgetown looks like a clear #7 in the Big East. They have some talent, but the ball will likely spend too much time in the hands of less efficient players like Akinjo and McClung. If Yurtseven fits in immediately and they run the offense through him and LeBlanc while finding a defensive identity, maybe they can move up in the pecking order, but they just seem to have too many holes in the starting lineup and especially bench to be a top-half team. The ability to get Ewing's first NCAA berth is there, but it's worth noting that despite the optimism around the program, they have regressed in overall efficiency rankings per Pomeroy in each of his first two seasons. This whole write up I think is pretty spot on, though the 6'3 comment is dumb. For me, the real keys are does everybody get more efficient on offense, do we take more threes, and most importantly, do we defend better? Without better defense, the team might be able to improve a bit, but the Big East will be tougher this season and the porous defense we have featured the last few years will not be enough. Alexander, and especially Allen, should help a lot, but I think the real key is further improvements from guys like McClung, Akinjo, and Pickett.
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 22, 2019 20:30:21 GMT -5
6.Georgetown Hoyas The first two years of the Patrick Ewing era have been kind of a wait and see as the talent hasn’t been there just yet and expectations still were relatively low. Now in year three for Patrick Ewing, it will be time to finally get a reading as to just how good of a coach he actually is. The team has a good duo of now Sophomores in James Akinjo and Mac McClung to pair with former NC State star Omer Yurtseven who has been an elite level offensive threat at the ACC level. This team is going to score the ball at a high level this season and will likely be the highest-scoring team in the league if they can get improvements defensively this team will be able to get an at-large bid and maybe contend near the top of the Big East. Georgetown will look for big contributions from lead guard James Akinjo who is an excellent passer and a capable shooter. If he can limit the number of turnovers and get better defensively he can be a First-Team All-Big East player. Mac McClung will look to continue to be an option offensively. He’s a great athlete, an improved shot would make him one of the toughest guards in the league. NC State transfer Omer Yurtseven will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience from his time at NC State, he’s a good scorer, rebounder and is a good shooter for a big man. While those three will provide the majority of the scoring offensively the team will need others to play a factor as well. Among those is UCF transfer Terrell Allen, who will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience. He’s a good shooter which will help this team stretch the floor and a capable defender. Josh LeBlanc is an athletic combo forward, he’s a really efficient scorer inside and is a decent rim protector. Junior Jamorko Pickett is another good stretch-4, he’s a 35 percent shooter from deep and is very athletic. Jagan Mosley is someone that can handle the ball off the bench, he isn’t a real threat scoring-wise but is a really good passer. Elsewhere, Jahvon Blair acts as a good floor-spacing guard, he mostly just shoots it from beyond the arc and is s good ball-handler. Final Analysis: This Georgetown team certainly has the offensive pieces to make their first NCAA Tournament under Head Coach. Yurtseven certainly opens the offense up due to his ability to score from anywhere on the court which will only help this team offensively. If this team can get the necessary improvements from James Akinjo and Mac McClung when it comes to turnovers and shooting than this team not only will get back to the Tournament but they could also compete near the top of the league standings. Projected rotation: PG: James Akinjo Sophomore 6’0” SG: Mac McClung Sophomore 6’2” SF: Terrell Allen Senior 6’3” PF: Josh LeBlanc Sophomore 6’7” C: Omer Yurtseven Junior 7’0” Key Reserves: Jamorko Pickett, Jagan Mosley, Jahvon Blair, Galen Alexander makingthemadness.com/big-east-conference-preview-2/This starting five. i.e. including Terrell Allen doesn't make any sense to me! I don't think that is what we will see!
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 22, 2019 20:54:44 GMT -5
6.Georgetown Hoyas The first two years of the Patrick Ewing era have been kind of a wait and see as the talent hasn’t been there just yet and expectations still were relatively low. Now in year three for Patrick Ewing, it will be time to finally get a reading as to just how good of a coach he actually is. The team has a good duo of now Sophomores in James Akinjo and Mac McClung to pair with former NC State star Omer Yurtseven who has been an elite level offensive threat at the ACC level. This team is going to score the ball at a high level this season and will likely be the highest-scoring team in the league if they can get improvements defensively this team will be able to get an at-large bid and maybe contend near the top of the Big East. Georgetown will look for big contributions from lead guard James Akinjo who is an excellent passer and a capable shooter. If he can limit the number of turnovers and get better defensively he can be a First-Team All-Big East player. Mac McClung will look to continue to be an option offensively. He’s a great athlete, an improved shot would make him one of the toughest guards in the league. NC State transfer Omer Yurtseven will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience from his time at NC State, he’s a good scorer, rebounder and is a good shooter for a big man. While those three will provide the majority of the scoring offensively the team will need others to play a factor as well. Among those is UCF transfer Terrell Allen, who will bring in some NCAA Tournament experience. He’s a good shooter which will help this team stretch the floor and a capable defender. Josh LeBlanc is an athletic combo forward, he’s a really efficient scorer inside and is a decent rim protector. Junior Jamorko Pickett is another good stretch-4, he’s a 35 percent shooter from deep and is very athletic. Jagan Mosley is someone that can handle the ball off the bench, he isn’t a real threat scoring-wise but is a really good passer. Elsewhere, Jahvon Blair acts as a good floor-spacing guard, he mostly just shoots it from beyond the arc and is s good ball-handler. Final Analysis: This Georgetown team certainly has the offensive pieces to make their first NCAA Tournament under Head Coach. Yurtseven certainly opens the offense up due to his ability to score from anywhere on the court which will only help this team offensively. If this team can get the necessary improvements from James Akinjo and Mac McClung when it comes to turnovers and shooting than this team not only will get back to the Tournament but they could also compete near the top of the league standings. Projected rotation: PG: James Akinjo Sophomore 6’0” SG: Mac McClung Sophomore 6’2” SF: Terrell Allen Senior 6’3” PF: Josh LeBlanc Sophomore 6’7” C: Omer Yurtseven Junior 7’0” Key Reserves: Jamorko Pickett, Jagan Mosley, Jahvon Blair, Galen Alexander makingthemadness.com/big-east-conference-preview-2/This starting five. i.e. including Terrell Allen doesn't make any sense to me! I don't think that is what we will see! We could, but I hope not because it would mean that Pickett isn’t playing with confidence. There could be games when a 3 guard lineup might make sense.
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Post by rhw485 on Oct 23, 2019 8:12:49 GMT -5
I think you're seeing a large contrast between previews that watched a lot of our games vs. ones that are simply going off kenpom or barttorvik. Btw, barttorvik has Terrell Allen w more minutes than McClung so the previews listing him as a starter are clearly just going off his website. I do value and appreciate his free resources, he's not supposed to know every lineup inside out.
Yes, from an efficiency perspective, the team wasn't as good as our final record might've indicated. The non-conf performance wasn't great, as even the wins weren't by enough points to help our metrics against bad teams. And the DePaul game alone probably cost us 10-12 spots in the final season rankings. In reality, I think that's a young team playing to the level of its competition, both good and bad.
But if you watched the games, there's real reason for optimism. Giving the freshmen all those minutes last year was an investment that was meant to pay off in future seasons. That time is now, the schedule is set up for us to go out and prove it, we'll know soon enough which view was right.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 23, 2019 8:54:56 GMT -5
Friday, October 18, 2019 Georgetown Preview Georgetown Hoyas January 18, Capitol One Center, Washington, D.C.; February 26, fiserv.forum Coach: Patrick Ewing (34-29) 3-Year NCAA Rank Average: 118.0 3-Year kenpom Average: 87.7 2019-20 T-Rank Projection: 42 Projected Starters: PG James Akinjo (6'0" So), SG Mac McClung (6'2" So), SF Jamorko Pickett (6'8" Jr), PF Josh LeBlanc (6'7" So), C Omer Yurtseven (7'0" Jr) ... On paper, Georgetown looks like a clear #7 in the Big East. They have some talent, but the ball will likely spend too much time in the hands of less efficient players like Akinjo and McClung. If Yurtseven fits in immediately and they run the offense through him and LeBlanc while finding a defensive identity, maybe they can move up in the pecking order, but they just seem to have too many holes in the starting lineup and especially bench to be a top-half team. The ability to get Ewing's first NCAA berth is there, but it's worth noting that despite the optimism around the program, they have regressed in overall efficiency rankings per Pomeroy in each of his first two seasons. This whole write up I think is pretty spot on, though the 6'3 comment is dumb. For me, the real keys are does everybody get more efficient on offense, do we take more threes, and most importantly, do we defend better? Without better defense, the team might be able to improve a bit, but the Big East will be tougher this season and the porous defense we have featured the last few years will not be enough. Alexander, and especially Allen, should help a lot, but I think the real key is further improvements from guys like McClung, Akinjo, and Pickett. Yeah the marquette group relies on advanced metrics a little too much. Another reason for encouragement is Akinjo and Mac were more efficient in BE play than they were at the start of the year, so they're trending the right direction. If they continue to put the freshmen mistakes behind them and we can improve our defense, then we are in for a great season.
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 23, 2019 12:11:25 GMT -5
I want to know- Against which teams are we not a threat to win? I don’t count any game as one in which we are not a threat to win....even against Duke. Look we are going have brain fart games when the team doesn’t show up, and we are going to be disappointed when we lose. There will be a few games when an outstanding performance beats us. Our ceiling to my eyes is Top 10 and Elite 8 or better. Will that happen? Probably not, but I think that is our ceiling. If I was completely neutral and didn't have Hoya shaded glass, I would say @sh, @nova and @creighton. Those are the only games, based off last season, that I would say 0% chance of winning. But I give us 50-50 odds @nova and @creighton and maybe 20% odds @sh.....
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 23, 2019 12:58:53 GMT -5
I want to know- Against which teams are we not a threat to win? I don’t count any game as one in which we are not a threat to win....even against Duke. Look we are going have brain fart games when the team doesn’t show up, and we are going to be disappointed when we lose. There will be a few games when an outstanding performance beats us. Our ceiling to my eyes is Top 10 and Elite 8 or better. Will that happen? Probably not, but I think that is our ceiling. If I was completely neutral and didn't have Hoya shaded glass, I would say @sh, @nova and @creighton. Those are the only games, based off last season, that I would say 0% chance of winning. But I give us 50-50 odds @nova and @creighton and maybe 20% odds @sh..... So I would ask this completely neutral individual to give me 10 to 1 odds (pretty reasonable for a 0% chance of winning) on these 3 games for the Hoyas to win straight up @ $100/game. This completely neutral individual who thinks this way should reach out to me directly by private message. Thanks. Also KenPom calculates our chance of winning at 18%, 25% and 30%.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 23, 2019 14:53:55 GMT -5
Yes, from an efficiency perspective, the team wasn't as good as our final record might've indicated. The non-conf performance wasn't great, as even the wins weren't by enough points to help our metrics against bad teams. And the DePaul game alone probably cost us 10-12 spots in the final season rankings. In reality, I think that's a young team playing to the level of its competition, both good and bad. You are right, the DePaul loss cost us about 12 spots. If you look at our stats from that game, they were abysmal, which is why we dropped so much. We gave up 1.28 points per possession, which is absolutely terrible. And, we only scored 0.87 points per possession against DePaul's bad defense. For reference, we were 79th going into the DePaul game on KenPom, 91 going into the Marquette win, 87 going into the Seton Hall BET loss, and 95 going into the Harvard game, and then we finished 100. So, the last 4 games we played were actually quite bad aside from the Marquette win. Perhaps an easier way to look at it. In Big East play, we scored 106.5 points per possession (good for 5th of 10), and we gave up 108.2 on defense (9th in the Big East). To truly succeed, especially with the conference being better this season, we need to reverse those numbers. This is why I say looking at offense or defense by points per game can be misleading, because it makes it look like we had a great offense, when really, it was right in the middle of the Big East.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 23, 2019 15:17:24 GMT -5
Yes, from an efficiency perspective, the team wasn't as good as our final record might've indicated. The non-conf performance wasn't great, as even the wins weren't by enough points to help our metrics against bad teams. And the DePaul game alone probably cost us 10-12 spots in the final season rankings. In reality, I think that's a young team playing to the level of its competition, both good and bad. You are right, the DePaul loss cost us about 12 spots. If you look at our stats from that game, they were abysmal, which is why we dropped so much. We gave up 1.28 points per possession, which is absolutely terrible. And, we only scored 0.87 points per possession against DePaul's bad defense. For reference, we were 79th going into the DePaul game on KenPom, 91 going into the Marquette win, 87 going into the Seton Hall BET loss, and 95 going into the Harvard game, and then we finished 100. So, the last 4 games we played were actually quite bad aside from the Marquette win. Perhaps an easier way to look at it. In Big East play, we scored 106.5 points per possession (good for 5th of 10), and we gave up 108.2 on defense (9th in the Big East). To truly succeed, especially with the conference being better this season, we need to reverse those numbers. This is why I say looking at offense or defense by points per game can be misleading, because it makes it look like we had a great offense, when really, it was right in the middle of the Big East. The team also needs to be much better in transition this season especially if playing fast is what the staff wants... last season the team scored 492 points in 508 possessions, that's not good at all...
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 23, 2019 16:39:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 16:44:10 GMT -5
Your 3 & 4, ladies and gents.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 23, 2019 17:49:16 GMT -5
I think Alexander will surprise. Kid can ball.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 23, 2019 17:56:55 GMT -5
For me, the teal uniforms are a constant reminder of one of the most painful moments in Hoya history- the ending of the ‘82 final. One could argue that the color lost us the game.
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