DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 15, 2019 13:19:40 GMT -5
If anyone has the heart to go back and watch, especially the 2nd half, it looks as if the team outside when he was wide open for the layup and especially James decided not to pass the ball to Mac. The one time James did was late when the game was over and Mac almost immediately launched a shot that barely grazed the rim. Honestly I give James some credit for realizing Mac was cold and not letting him cause more trouble than he already did. That being said that’s a problem if James can see it but coach can’t. Maybe James realizes what most should and it’s that you feed a hot Mac and avoid a cold Mac at all costs. There doesn’t seem to be much in between. It’s no secret how I feel about Mac but if James has lost his faith in him then Pat can’t play them together. If Mac’s guy knows he’s not getting the ball we are in trouble. This was definitely true. The whole team seemed to avoid passing to Mac, though. And I saw multiple times that Akinjo failed to pass to other open teammates despite being hounded defensively -- a wide open Mosely in the corner 3 while he had 2-3 guys on him, Alexander while he was facing a double team, etc. James has to orchestrate the offense and know who's cold/who's hot and where and how to get it to them, but he also sometimes has to trust his teammates and get them in the game and not force bad plays.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 15, 2019 13:36:09 GMT -5
Mac seems to take a quick couple of threes each game. Whether they go in or not seems to dictate the rest of the game. Same goes for Blair when he enters. Not sure either has the long leash to shoot their way out of a cold start.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 15, 2019 14:00:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Mac showed a lot of "my turn" last night-not good; but it was pretty much all bad, so...
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Post by gatormcclusky on Nov 15, 2019 14:18:49 GMT -5
McClung has had a terrible start to the year - he seems to be pressing way too hard to make things happen offensively and playing tight instead of loose. He's not getting any transition opportunities, which was a big strength for him last year, and he's too focused on shooting outside and not using his athleticism enough to get into the paint and to the rim.
he's way too talented offensively to play like this all year, but it might be time to play him more with the second unit where there's less pressure to perform and he can be the primary option and find his groove.
but the problems with this team go a lot further than McClung - this Hoya squad looks like a bunch of individuals all trying to get their own games going rather than a focused team playing with unity. Everybody on the roster is playing like crap - nobody is committed to defense, the ball movement and chemistry is non-existent, and no one looks like they're having any fun out there.
also, Ewing's rotations have been absolutely horrible in my opinion and are a big part of the problem. The constant mass subs and yanking guys left and right for mistakes has done more to hurt the cohesion and get guys out of rhythm than it's helped. I can't tell what the offensive system is supposed to be achieving - there's very little movement and passing and a lot of ball dominant dribbling out the clock, the defense is full of holes with no one helping each other, and the transition scoring and early offense that was such a big part of the success last year has disappeared.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 15, 2019 14:38:48 GMT -5
Someone I respect pointed out to me that James isn’t even looking in Mac’s direction anymore when he’s looking to pass. Can’t blame him.
Mac needs to come off the bench and see if he can provide the team a spark.
Josh needs to start.
Period ...end of story.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 15, 2019 15:08:32 GMT -5
The lack of any bigs that can stretch the floor is an issue that doesn't get enough attention imo...
Yurtseven has been very good so far but the way he's being utilized causes a lot of standing around when he's on the block, it's the same thing when Wahab is in the game.
Even when they're used in the screen game the defense just doubles the ball handler every time, hard to have good ball movement if the defense doesn't have to move much...
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 15, 2019 15:15:09 GMT -5
The biggest issue is we're just playing pickup ball. We're relying on James to "create" Create what? We need to run Mac off some screens to get him going down hill. Runs some plays for Pickett to get some jumpshots, work a PnR with Yurt. ANY STRUCTURE to get your players going. It's not effective basketball playing how we're playing. It's downright shocking. It is NOT a personnel issue. We have the players that can knock down shots (when given the opportunity in the flow of an offense). Create something to play to their strengths. This is a coaching issue, PERIOD
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kbones17
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 15, 2019 15:50:54 GMT -5
The biggest issue is we're just playing pickup ball. We're relying on James to "create" Create what? We need to run Mac off some screens to get him going down hill. Runs some plays for Pickett to get some jumpshots, work a PnR with Yurt. ANY STRUCTURE to get your players going. It's not effective basketball playing how we're playing. It's downright shocking. It is NOT a personnel issue. We have the players that can knock down shots (when given the opportunity in the flow of an offense). Create something to play to their strengths. This is a coaching issue, PERIOD Others have said this but I’ll say it again: the grace period of the first two seasons is over. There was/is general optimism for this season that is in danger of vanishing before December. These first three games still feel like we are trying things out without any set plan of how we are going to gameplan and attack an opponent. We clearly have some talent but if the sum is going to less than its parts then we are never going accomplish any substantial success.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 17, 2019 23:27:06 GMT -5
We need Mac to play like he did today. When he's under control and playing within himself, we are a different team!!
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 4, 2019 18:40:12 GMT -5
How did this thread die considering what we now know. I mentioned at the beginning of the Mac hype that Mac being the superstar would be fine as long as everything was going well for the team. As they say everything is better when you are winning. I was told I had no idea what I was talking about and that him, James and Josh were best buds that had each other's back. I am around enough of those involved to know the landscape has changed. You have to finesse egos as much as you have to do anything else. James and Mac didn't ask for the Mackinjo moniker. It was forced on them.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 4, 2019 18:45:31 GMT -5
How did this thread die considering what we now know. I mentioned at the beginning of the Mac hype that Mac being the superstar would be fine as long as everything was going well for the team. As they say everything is better when you are winning. I was told I had no idea what I was talking about and that him, James and Josh were best buds that had each other's back. I am around enough of those involved to know the landscape has changed. You have to finesse egos as much as you have to do anything else. James and Mac didn't ask for the Mackinjo moniker. It was forced on them. Seriously--what do we now know?
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Post by redclaw on Dec 4, 2019 18:52:44 GMT -5
How did this thread die considering what we now know. I mentioned at the beginning of the Mac hype that Mac being the superstar would be fine as long as everything was going well for the team. As they say everything is better when you are winning. I was told I had no idea what I was talking about and that him, James and Josh were best buds that had each other's back. I am around enough of those involved to know the landscape has changed. You have to finesse egos as much as you have to do anything else. James and Mac didn't ask for the Mackinjo moniker. It was forced on them. Sometimes I don’t agree with what you say but I will say I thought you were right on this. Your opinions are always level headed and realistic even if I don’t agree.
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bigskyhoya
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Post by bigskyhoya on Dec 4, 2019 18:57:40 GMT -5
How did this thread die considering what we now know. I mentioned at the beginning of the Mac hype that Mac being the superstar would be fine as long as everything was going well for the team. As they say everything is better when you are winning. I was told I had no idea what I was talking about and that him, James and Josh were best buds that had each other's back. I am around enough of those involved to know the landscape has changed. You have to finesse egos as much as you have to do anything else. James and Mac didn't ask for the Mackinjo moniker. It was forced on them. I don’t know you and do not intend to block your posts. In a perfect world, however, I wish there was a way to avoid reading any posts in which the purpose of the post is solely to convince the rest of us that the poster was right all along. I just don’t care and it doesn’t advance discussion of any topic.
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kbones17
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 4, 2019 19:34:40 GMT -5
How did this thread die considering what we now know. I mentioned at the beginning of the Mac hype that Mac being the superstar would be fine as long as everything was going well for the team. As they say everything is better when you are winning. I was told I had no idea what I was talking about and that him, James and Josh were best buds that had each other's back. I am around enough of those involved to know the landscape has changed. You have to finesse egos as much as you have to do anything else. James and Mac didn't ask for the Mackinjo moniker. It was forced on them. I don’t know you and do not intend to block your posts. In a perfect world, however, I wish there was a way to avoid reading any posts in which the purpose of the post is solely to convince the rest of us that the poster was right all along. I just don’t care and it doesn’t advance discussion of any topic. I’ll second bigsky’s post wholeheartedly.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Dec 4, 2019 19:45:34 GMT -5
I don’t know you and do not intend to block your posts. In a perfect world, however, I wish there was a way to avoid reading any posts in which the purpose of the post is solely to convince the rest of us that the poster was right all along. I just don’t care and it doesn’t advance discussion of any topic. I’ll second bigsky’s post wholeheartedly. Especially when the poster is seldom right.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Dec 4, 2019 23:30:54 GMT -5
I’ll second bigsky’s post wholeheartedly. Especially when the poster is seldom right. Even on this page he was celebrating Akinjo not passing the ball Mac and icing him out and blaming Mac for it.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2019 23:41:14 GMT -5
hoyainla = Akinjo’s other uncle?
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Dec 4, 2019 23:42:03 GMT -5
hoyainla = Akinjo’s uncle? Has anyone seen them in the same room together?
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 4, 2019 23:43:54 GMT -5
I updated to “other” uncle as the tweets are totally loco!
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 4, 2019 23:46:50 GMT -5
I’ll second bigsky’s post wholeheartedly. Especially when the poster is seldom right. Seldom right lol if I really wanted to do victory laps for everything that I said that eventually came true on here the first few pages would all be threads of me. I bashed James as much this year as anyone. I said him icing out Mac wasn’t good for the team. I said Allen should be the PG but enjoy your victory lap tonight guys. Mac played very well.
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