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Post by younghoya32 on Jun 30, 2005 17:15:56 GMT -5
Will most likely go out of the Big 12 so he does not use another year of eligability. I realize the chances of him coming to the hilltop are slim to none, but im just getting the word across
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jun 30, 2005 18:45:01 GMT -5
Giddens' 2004-05 stats:
27.7 min pg
10 pts pg
3.8 reb pg
1.4 ast pg
1.6 to pg
0.8 stl pg
0.7 blk pg
40.4 FG %
33.7 3pt %
68.0 FT %
From what I know it sounds as if he is a very talented kid with some attitude problems. He's originally from OKC, but as younghoya said he plans to transfer outside of the Big 12, so Stillwater and Norman aren't really options. Since Self is helping in Giddens' search for a new school, I wouldn't be suprised if he ends up somewhere where Self knows the coach. Probably not Coastal Carolina, Buzz Peterson's new gig. Maybe he ends up in the Big Ten?
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 30, 2005 18:49:20 GMT -5
Possible places where Self knows the coaches for Giddens, near OKC: University of Tulsa, Oral Roberts University, and University of Arkansas. Self and Buzz don't get along btw, because Self feels he got passed over when he was coach of Oral Roberts and Buzz was hired at the University of Tulsa instead of him. Self was also has a close relationship with Tubby Smith at Kentucky so that is also a possibility if Giddens doesn't care about distance from home. I don't know about Self's friends from the Big 10 but it certainly doesn't seem like a stretch
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Post by rccoleon on Jun 30, 2005 21:36:55 GMT -5
i do not know if JR is concerned with staying close to home. i was thinking of some bigger name schools than the ones that were mentioned in the previous posts. i know someone like a huggins would take a chance on this kid. as a student at KU, JR loved to party. the night he was stabbed he had two finals the next day so he has no problem with it. the speculation was that self was going to extend severe penalties to JR dealing with going out etc and JR probably didnt want to uphold them. the guy is very cocky. its funny to think that if he declared after his freshman year he would have been drafted potentially in the lottery as was outline in the washington post last summer.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 30, 2005 23:31:05 GMT -5
It was insinuated on local news here and in local talk radio that he may have done something that is at this time undisclosed to provoke the fight that resulted in the stabbing.
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Post by millerj9 on Jul 1, 2005 9:43:54 GMT -5
KU is saying they were prepared to lose Giddens after this year anyway (NBA), which i guess is a means to try to restore confidence among the Jayhawk faithful. They do have a pretty amazing recruting class coming in next year, so the program should be aiight.
Speaking of recruiting, does anyone find it terribly sketchy that KU hired Ronnie Chalmers, father of highly touted Mario Chalmers, to the position of "director of basketball operations"? Sure, Ronnie's record of 109-28 is fantastic, but he's only been a coach for 5 years and 4 out of those 5 years he has had a McD's All-America on the team...also, although a handful of Alaskan players have landed at big programs and signed NBA contracts, i dont think of Alaskan b-ball as being a hotbed of talent.
A clip from the KC Star...
When Kansas signed point guard Mario Chalmers last fall, many said the Jayhawks got a coach on the floor. Apparently, the Jayhawks got another coach, too.
Chalmers’ father, Ronnie, has been hired as the director of basketball operations for the men’s basketball team, the school announced Tuesday.
But before you say Danny and Ed Manning, consider this: Chalmers already has proved he can coach.
Chalmers comes to KU from Bartlett High School in Anchorage, Alaska, where he was the boys coach the last five seasons, going 109-28 while winning two state championships, according to the release the school provided. Before Bartlett, Chalmers spent more than 22 years in the U.S. Air Force.
Chalmers said he pursued the opportunity at Kansas only after his son signed with the school.
“Mario’s decision to choose Kansas was solely based on Mario,” he said of his son, who will be a freshman this fall. “(My wife) Almarie and I made a decision to stay in Alaska until she retired this spring, then relocate to follow Mario. This is a great opportunity to get my foot in the door at the college level, follow my son and be a part of one of the best programs in the country.”
— Tom Bergeron/The Star
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Post by the_way on Jul 1, 2005 9:45:43 GMT -5
This happens all the time. John Calipari hired Dajuan Wagner's father as an assitant coach for Dajuan's first and only season at Memphis.
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Post by millerj9 on Jul 1, 2005 9:46:36 GMT -5
sketchy nonetheless. I'm not saying it's illegal, it just raises a few eyebrows. I hope GU never considers doing anything like this...ever
BTW, what happened to DaJaun's father after that year? Did he stay on the staff?
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Post by the_way on Jul 1, 2005 9:53:12 GMT -5
No he did not stay on the staff after that year, I believe. It happens with recruits too. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Calipari gave a scholarship to one of Dajuan Wagnar's friends who also played basketball the same year Wagnar was given a scholarship.
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Post by millerj9 on Jul 1, 2005 9:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Jul 1, 2005 10:05:25 GMT -5
It happens with recruits too. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Calipari gave a scholarship to one of Dajuan Wagnar's friends who also played basketball the same year Wagnar was given a scholarship. Esherick, I also recall the story about Dajuan's buddy getting a scholarship, although it was overwhelmingly unwarranted. I wasn't aware his Dad got a job too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2005 10:16:17 GMT -5
It happens with recruits too. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Calipari gave a scholarship to one of Dajuan Wagnar's friends who also played basketball the same year Wagnar was given a scholarship. Esherick, I also recall the story about Dajuan's buddy getting a scholarship, although it was overwhelmingly unwarranted. I wasn't aware his Dad got a job too. Oh sweet lord... are we to take to calling _way "Esherick" from here on out? This could lead to some hilarious results... |
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Jul 1, 2005 17:49:02 GMT -5
Esherick, I also recall the story about Dajuan's buddy getting a scholarship, although it was overwhelmingly unwarranted. I wasn't aware his Dad got a job too. Oh sweet lord... are we to take to calling _way "Esherick" from here on out? This could lead to some hilarious results... And does that mean we refer to Esherick as the_way? If so thats just plain unfair to Esherick |
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Post by rccoleon on Jul 1, 2005 23:23:45 GMT -5
Speaking of recruiting, does anyone find it terribly sketchy that KU hired Ronnie Chalmers, father of highly touted Mario Chalmers, to the position of "director of basketball operations"? Sure, Ronnie's record of 109-28 is fantastic, but he's only been a coach for 5 years and 4 out of those 5 years he has had a McD's All-America on the team...also, although a handful of Alaskan players have landed at big programs and signed NBA contracts, i dont think of Alaskan b-ball as being a hotbed of talent. [/i][/quote] this is rediculous... this man signed a contract, how many months after his son verbaled to KU? this man can coach and Danny Manning decided to step down from his position. so i think this is nuts that so many people are concerned about this. chalmers' father is a hell of a coach and so what if his son is a hell of a player. his son had already enrolled in summer classes when his father took on the job here at KU. do you understand how many parents of players that are going to be playing for KU in the following year come to Kansas to simply be close to their sons? maybe i am one sided but i do not smell foul play on this one. |
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Post by the_way on Jul 2, 2005 10:22:00 GMT -5
Speaking of recruiting, does anyone find it terribly sketchy that KU hired Ronnie Chalmers, father of highly touted Mario Chalmers, to the position of "director of basketball operations"? Sure, Ronnie's record of 109-28 is fantastic, but he's only been a coach for 5 years and 4 out of those 5 years he has had a McD's All-America on the team...also, although a handful of Alaskan players have landed at big programs and signed NBA contracts, i dont think of Alaskan b-ball as being a hotbed of talent. [/i][/quote] this is rediculous... this man signed a contract, how many months after his son verbaled to KU? this man can coach and Danny Manning decided to step down from his position. so i think this is nuts that so many people are concerned about this. chalmers' father is a hell of a coach and so what if his son is a hell of a player. his son had already enrolled in summer classes when his father took on the job here at KU. do you understand how many parents of players that are going to be playing for KU in the following year come to Kansas to simply be close to their sons? maybe i am one sided but i do not smell foul play on this one. [/quote] Well, you are still in Kansas, Dorothy. |
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Post by idhoya on Jul 2, 2005 11:05:27 GMT -5
Wagner's dad wasn't hired as a coach. He doesn't have his degree, so they couldn't bring him in as coach. The position he got was director of something or assistant team coordinator or something like that. Basically, Memphis hired him to Dajuan. He still hasn't gotten his degree.
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Post by RDF on Jul 2, 2005 13:06:27 GMT -5
For those that don't know, Wagner's dad is former Louisville All American Milt Wagner. He led Cards to National Championship over Duke in '86 which was Pervis Ellison's great run through the tournament. Wagner then was drafted by Lakers and won a title or two as a backup and his career was mired by injury. He's still at Memphis now and Calipari accomplished what he wanted but he ended up with short stick as he's had Wagner's buddy Arthur Barclay for the entire time and Wagner bolted quickly. As for KU, I have to agree with Way on this one RCC, you have to pull your head out of the sand if you don't think it's shady that Chalmer's dad was hired by Self. So you think the "timing" suggest nothing shady was going on?? Well who's to say this job wasn't shopped to him during the recruitment? Maybe Chalmers put this out there to every school in his son's recruitment. I am not saying he's a bad coach, but I think Bill Self and Kansas doesn't need a HS Coach from Anchorage Alaska to fill out their Staff if an opening is there for taking. And the Danny/Ed Manning thing was a joke. Ed Manning was a TRUCK DRIVER and Larry "Play the Right Way" Brown hired him during Danny's JR season in HS. They lived in North Carolina and many Heel fans smelled the rat that is Brown--by the way isn't it funny that Brown's college gigs both ended up in probation--UCLA and Kansas?? Playing the right way must not apply to NCAA rule book.  |
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