jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 6, 2019 16:06:57 GMT -5
Over the last several games, we have seen improved defense with a line-up that has featured Leblanc and Pickett as the defensive strength.
Imagine a front line of Wilson, Leblanc, and Pickett. Many think that Wilson may red-shirt, but we would be fundamentally a different team with a long, athletic, energetic bouncy front line like that.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Jan 6, 2019 16:43:49 GMT -5
Just watched tape of yesterday's game. I really think, one we get Mac and Trey back that we can beat any team in the BE. St John's is loaded with talent and we should have beaten them. We dominated Butler. Our defense is improving and Jamorko looks like he got the message. With the ascendance of Malinowski thanks to Mac's injury we are very deep. As the season progresses I have to think Akinjo will grow and LeBlanc will be an all BE player. And with a couple of big men coming next year I think all we need is another smooth shooting power forward to see us in the NCAA tourney next year.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 6, 2019 16:53:23 GMT -5
Definitely pleased with how we are playing. But I am just not that impressed with St. John's. they seem utterly dependent on Ponds as far as I can tell. their other starters are nice players, but nothing special. Anything they accomplish will be primarily because of Ponds. Which could be a lot, the guy is a great college player. But after Ponds leaves, I'll be interested to see how St. John's progresses as a program. I want to see Mullin do well - always liked him even as a respected enemy, and a good St. John's program is good for the conference. But other than recruiting Ponds, I really don't see anything that Mullin has done that leaves me feeling overly good about the future of their program. He has recruited some good players, but so have just about all the BE teams over the last few years. I don't see a whole lot of player development (all those other solid players this year are transfers who were good players at their previous schools). I don't see a team that plays much smarter basketball than they were playing a season or two ago. I hate to rip on Mullin, but until they have some meaningful post-Ponds success, I'm not buying the idea that Mullin is "building a strong program".
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nbhoya
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Post by nbhoya on Jan 6, 2019 17:00:03 GMT -5
I agree with the above. Ponds accounted for over 1/3 of St Johns points. He is the whole show.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 6, 2019 17:44:31 GMT -5
Definitely pleased with how we are playing. But I am just not that impressed with St. John's. they seem utterly dependent on Ponds as far as I can tell. their other starters are nice players, but nothing special. Anything they accomplish will be primarily because of Ponds. Which could be a lot, the guy is a great college player. But after Ponds leaves, I'll be interested to see how St. John's progresses as a program. I want to see Mullin do well - always liked him even as a respected enemy, and a good St. John's program is good for the conference. But other than recruiting Ponds, I really don't see anything that Mullin has done that leaves me feeling overly good about the future of their program. He has recruited some good players, but so have just about all the BE teams over the last few years. I don't see a whole lot of player development (all those other solid players this year are transfers who were good players at their previous schools). I don't see a team that plays much smarter basketball than they were playing a season or two ago. I hate to rip on Mullin, but until they have some meaningful post-Ponds success, I'm not buying the idea that Mullin is "building a strong program". Figueroa was a defensive nightmare with 6 steals, 9 rebounds to go along with 11 points.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 6, 2019 17:45:35 GMT -5
Over the last several games, we have seen improved defense with a line-up that has featured Leblanc and Pickett as the defensive strength. Imagine a front line of Wilson, Leblanc, and Pickett. Many think that Wilson may red-shirt, but we would be fundamentally a different team with a long, athletic, energetic bouncy front line like that. My vision is for Pat's teams are Defensive bigs and guards that breakdown their man off the bounce (for 3s and 2s). Plus pure 3pt shooters for good measure. In year 2 (1.5) I'm excited to see how he builds teama.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2019 17:45:38 GMT -5
Definitely pleased with how we are playing. But I am just not that impressed with St. John's. they seem utterly dependent on Ponds as far as I can tell. their other starters are nice players, but nothing special. Anything they accomplish will be primarily because of Ponds. Which could be a lot, the guy is a great college player. But after Ponds leaves, I'll be interested to see how St. John's progresses as a program. I want to see Mullin do well - always liked him even as a respected enemy, and a good St. John's program is good for the conference. But other than recruiting Ponds, I really don't see anything that Mullin has done that leaves me feeling overly good about the future of their program. He has recruited some good players, but so have just about all the BE teams over the last few years. I don't see a whole lot of player development (all those other solid players this year are transfers who were good players at their previous schools). I don't see a team that plays much smarter basketball than they were playing a season or two ago. I hate to rip on Mullin, but until they have some meaningful post-Ponds success, I'm not buying the idea that Mullin is "building a strong program". Figueroa was a defensive nightmare with 6 steals, 9 rebounds to go along with 11 points. Simons was very good yesterday too...
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Jan 6, 2019 18:45:11 GMT -5
Don't know.
Have to see more Big East games to get a better feel of this team, particularly the freshmen starting guards.
Now we are in the thick of things with consistently tougher competition. We'll see who will rise to the occasion.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 6, 2019 18:55:16 GMT -5
Over the last several games, we have seen improved defense with a line-up that has featured Leblanc and Pickett as the defensive strength. Imagine a front line of Wilson, Leblanc, and Pickett. Many think that Wilson may red-shirt, but we would be fundamentally a different team with a long, athletic, energetic bouncy front line like that. Actually I've been more excited about seeing Ighoefe play alongside them because I think he would be less raw offensively while still providing great defense.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 6, 2019 18:56:49 GMT -5
Over the last several games, we have seen improved defense with a line-up that has featured Leblanc and Pickett as the defensive strength. Imagine a front line of Wilson, Leblanc, and Pickett. Many think that Wilson may red-shirt, but we would be fundamentally a different team with a long, athletic, energetic bouncy front line like that. Actually I've been more excited about seeing Ighoefe play alongside them because I think he would be less raw offensively while still providing great defense. Either way, we will be different. I figured it would be the same but i haven’t seen enough of Ighoefe to say for sure.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 6, 2019 18:57:04 GMT -5
Definitely pleased with how we are playing. But I am just not that impressed with St. John's. they seem utterly dependent on Ponds as far as I can tell. their other starters are nice players, but nothing special. Anything they accomplish will be primarily because of Ponds. Which could be a lot, the guy is a great college player. But after Ponds leaves, I'll be interested to see how St. John's progresses as a program. I want to see Mullin do well - always liked him even as a respected enemy, and a good St. John's program is good for the conference. But other than recruiting Ponds, I really don't see anything that Mullin has done that leaves me feeling overly good about the future of their program. He has recruited some good players, but so have just about all the BE teams over the last few years. I don't see a whole lot of player development (all those other solid players this year are transfers who were good players at their previous schools). I don't see a team that plays much smarter basketball than they were playing a season or two ago. I hate to rip on Mullin, but until they have some meaningful post-Ponds success, I'm not buying the idea that Mullin is "building a strong program". In all fairness the Johnnies should have beaten Seton Hall despite Ponds having a horrible shooting day. That team is more than just Ponds. Much more.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 6, 2019 19:21:41 GMT -5
ok were going to Xavier yup big east WIDE open need to win one by one by at least one and we ARE having fun. two bad end of games with mistkes and could shoulda woulda didnt beat the johnnies and cuse woulda been talking it up alot but like the HUSTLE this year.
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Post by hoyacane11 on Jan 7, 2019 16:31:03 GMT -5
Definitely pleased with how we are playing. But I am just not that impressed with St. John's. they seem utterly dependent on Ponds as far as I can tell. their other starters are nice players, but nothing special. Anything they accomplish will be primarily because of Ponds. Which could be a lot, the guy is a great college player. But after Ponds leaves, I'll be interested to see how St. John's progresses as a program. I want to see Mullin do well - always liked him even as a respected enemy, and a good St. John's program is good for the conference. But other than recruiting Ponds, I really don't see anything that Mullin has done that leaves me feeling overly good about the future of their program. He has recruited some good players, but so have just about all the BE teams over the last few years. I don't see a whole lot of player development (all those other solid players this year are transfers who were good players at their previous schools). I don't see a team that plays much smarter basketball than they were playing a season or two ago. I hate to rip on Mullin, but until they have some meaningful post-Ponds success, I'm not buying the idea that Mullin is "building a strong program". In all fairness the Johnnies should have beaten Seton Hall despite Ponds having a horrible shooting day. That team is more than just Ponds. Much more. Correct
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Jan 7, 2019 19:53:33 GMT -5
I think it's obvious that PE wants a true rim protector and Wilson and Ighofe fit the bill. Once we have one (or two) then we can play much tighter defense against perimeter shooters. PE sees that the 3 point shot has so revolutionized the game that you must keep a body on those shooters. I'd been calling for more zone defense because we don't really have one yet but I think maybe PE is right. We can't trade better rim protection which a zone might give us for more open 3's since so many teams have lights out 3 point shooters. So while we wait for those guys to arrive we have to just be prepared to give up lots of points and win 80+ point games.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Jan 8, 2019 4:55:14 GMT -5
I think it's obvious that PE wants a true rim protector and Wilson and Ighofe fit the bill. Once we have one (or two) then we can play much tighter defense against perimeter shooters. PE sees that the 3 point shot has so revolutionized the game that you must keep a body on those shooters. I'd been calling for more zone defense because we don't really have one yet but I think maybe PE is right. We can't trade better rim protection which a zone might give us for more open 3's since so many teams have lights out 3 point shooters. So while we wait for those guys to arrive we have to just be prepared to give up lots of points and win 80+ point games. Thanks Doc.
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