Georgetown besmirches itself again

[hoyaloya]

9/20/18
Once again, Georgetown fouls her own nest.
www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/20/anti-trump-georgetown-professor-goes-on-profane-tirade-against-kavanaugh-gop.html

The news item leads with a photo of the Healy Building with John Carroll’s statue prominent in the foreground. Excerpts:

An anti-Trump professor at Georgetown University went on a profanity-laced Twitter rant against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, who has been accused of committing a sexual assault as a teen.
Dr. Carol Christine Fair is an associate professor in the Security Studies Program at Georgetown, according to the school’s website.

A Message from Association of Mature American Citizens
“Speech Police” Have Destroyed Academia…Holocaust survivor says it’s reminiscent of the Nazis….Fair referred to “Kreepy Kavanaugh” as a “perjurer” and a “rapist” on her verified Twitter account, adding that “nothing has changed since Anita Hill.”Fair also said the “GOP doesn’t care about women. We knew this. F--- them.”…
In another tweet about Kavanaugh, Fair referred to the GOP as “pro-rape, pro-pederasty, pro-perjury, pro-corruption, pro-Russian hacking, pro-child trafficking, pro-white male supremacy, pro-VERY-late-term abortion of children with AR-15’s … a f---ing death cult” and “filthy swine.”
“Professor Christine Fair should remember that she has Republican students in her classes,” Amelia Irvine, a Georgetown student … told Campus Reform. “Is she accusing them of hating women as well? I think Fair would be hard pressed to call herself unbiased in the classroom when she’s spewing hate like an immature teenager online.”…
“F--- Trump and f--- you for voting for him,” Fair wrote on Tumblr. “What AMAZES me about Trumpanzees … apart from the fact that they are a bunch of Xphobic, women-hating, white supremacist, whiney-ass snowflakes who love a criminal traitor …”

Richard M. Coleman
C’57, GL ‘61

[hoya9797]

Everything she said is correct. Hope she gets tenure.

[DFW HOYA]

Not a smart move for a tenure track candidate.

A professor that calls Georgetown home has to show some tenets of maturity and rise above the 140 character diatribe. Is she otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that she can make her case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?

The larger story re: Court nominees is a reflection on two dysfunctional parties. For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say. For their part, Republicans are simply trying to speed up the clock while they ran the clock out on the Garland appointment. If things don't get better, the Court could be down to as few as six justices in 2020 because people will resign or die and no one will be confirmed.

We need to return to a day when the Senate was about "advise and consent" and not grandstanding to the their bases.

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Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

A professor that calls Georgetown home has to show some tenets of maturity and rise above the 140 character diatribe. Is she otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that she can make her case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?

It would be amazing if a single Republican of note would speak or utter the following: "The President of the United States has to show some tenets of maturity and rise about the 140 character diatribe. Is he otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that he can make his case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?"

This country besmirched itself by electing a racist, misogynist, ill-informed, backward-ass Twitter troll as President. Why should we hold "a professor that calls Georgetown home" to a higher standard than the person that calls the White House home?

[SSHoya]

Republicans will never take on Trump unless they are leaving politics. They are scared spineless and are solely motivated by power not principles. See e.g., Paul Ryan (especially spineless since he is quitting but I assume he doesn't want to harm the GOP, such as it is).

[TC]

Fair was the Professor who gave it to Richard Spencer in a gym :
www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/richard_spencer_gym_professor.html

Fair was the Professor who started a fight with a Muslim colleague who voted for Trump:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4069936/Georgetown-prof-C-Christine-Fair-went-meltdown-Muslim-ex-colleague-Asra-Q-Nomani-admitted-voting-Donald-Trump.html

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Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say.

You know who else defended Bill Clinton for years, until - shockingly - about 2016?

Donald Trump.

[HoyaNyr320]

Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Not a smart move for a tenure track candidate.

For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say. For their part, Republicans are simply trying to speed up the clock while they ran the clock out on the Garland appointment. If things don't get better, the Court could be down to as few as six justices in 2020 because people will resign or die and no one will be confirmed.

We need to return to a day when the Senate was about "advise and consent" and not grandstanding to the their bases.

I would argue that this situation is different than Clinton’s situation because Kavanaugh is being considered for a lifetime appointment on the highest court, with really no checks against him. I’m not defending what Clinton did, but at least he had to explain himself in front of the American people to get elected. He was also was impeached. Here, if Kavanaugh is installed, there is really not an easy way to get him off the court if he turns out to be a serial creepster. What bothers me is not just this episode, but this combined with the episode of him using stolen documents while at the Bush White House and utterly denying knowledge of the theft, even though the emails make it fairly obvious he knew about it. Forget his legal views, this is just not the type of character that deserves a lifetime appointment in my view.

[TC]

Sept 21, 2018 14:18:32 GMT -5 HoyaNyr320 said:

Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Not a smart move for a tenure track candidate.

For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say. For their part, Republicans are simply trying to speed up the clock while they ran the clock out on the Garland appointment. If things don't get better, the Court could be down to as few as six justices in 2020 because people will resign or die and no one will be confirmed.

We need to return to a day when the Senate was about "advise and consent" and not grandstanding to the their bases.

I would argue that this situation is different than Clinton’s situation because Kavanaugh is being considered for a lifetime appointment on the highest court, with really no checks against him. I’m not defending what Clinton did, but at least he had to explain himself in front of the American people to get elected. He was also was impeached. Here, if Kavanaugh is installed, there is really not an easy way to get him off the court if he turns out to be a serial creepster. What bothers me is not just this episode, but this combined with the episode of him using stolen documents while at the Bush White House and utterly denying knowledge of the theft, even though the emails make it fairly obvious he knew about it. Forget his legal views, this is just not the type of character that deserves a lifetime appointment in my view.

I would argue that Bill Clinton was 20 years ago, society has changed, and Al Franken.

[hoyarooter]

Sept 21, 2018 7:34:12 GMT -5 @cam said:

Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

A professor that calls Georgetown home has to show some tenets of maturity and rise above the 140 character diatribe. Is she otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that she can make her case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?

It would be amazing if a single Republican of note would speak or utter the following: "The President of the United States has to show some tenets of maturity and rise about the 140 character diatribe. Is he otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that he can make his case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?"

This country besmirched itself by electing a racist, misogynist, ill-informed, backward-ass Twitter troll as President. Why should we hold "a professor that calls Georgetown home" to a higher standard than the person that calls the White House home?

Didn't John McCain and Jeff Flake basically do this? Of course, see SS's post above.

[hoyarooter]

Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Not a smart move for a tenure track candidate.

A professor that calls Georgetown home has to show some tenets of maturity and rise above the 140 character diatribe. Is she otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that she can make her case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?

The larger story re: Court nominees is a reflection on two dysfunctional parties. For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say. For their part, Republicans are simply trying to speed up the clock while they ran the clock out on the Garland appointment. If things don't get better, the Court could be down to as few as six justices in 2020 because people will resign or die and no one will be confirmed.

We need to return to a day when the Senate was about "advise and consent" and not grandstanding to the their bases.

The problem is that the President has taken communication to such a pitiful low that others feel it is ok to respond in kind. But agreed, this is a very bad look.

[tashoya]

Sept 21, 2018 19:11:33 GMT -5 hoyarooter said:

Sept 20, 2018 23:07:17 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Not a smart move for a tenure track candidate.

A professor that calls Georgetown home has to show some tenets of maturity and rise above the 140 character diatribe. Is she otherwise bereft of those basic skills of rhetoric that she can make her case without resorting to name calling and prejudice?

The larger story re: Court nominees is a reflection on two dysfunctional parties. For every Democratic leader who will argue that Kavanagh must be paraded through the town square and placed in a pillory on an unsubstantiated account, they quickly turn a blind eye if asked of Bill Clinton ever did the same. "Youthful indiscretion," they will say. For their part, Republicans are simply trying to speed up the clock while they ran the clock out on the Garland appointment. If things don't get better, the Court could be down to as few as six justices in 2020 because people will resign or die and no one will be confirmed.

We need to return to a day when the Senate was about "advise and consent" and not grandstanding to the their bases.

The problem is that the President has taken communication to such a pitiful low that others feel it is ok to respond in kind. But agreed, this is a very bad look.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Though, "Georgetown besmirches itself again" is also a bit disingenuous. It's a shot at the institution for the OP's own reasons more than it is for this incident with this one person. I'm pretty sure her words weren't cleared by the University nor would it sanction them now.