EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 11, 2019 14:23:44 GMT -5
But that wasn't what you originally based your criticism on. Nothing stupid about discussing historical facts and it looks like she managed to educate some people on what redlining was in the process.I don't understand why you're so upset about it. Ignoring this stuff doesn't make it go away. When it started doesn't matter as much as the fact that It wasn't until around 1970 when redlining was banned. The consequences of that policy are still being felt right now, but you can't talk about it? Idk if that makes sense... Anyways, we've spent way more time talking about it than she did. You are likely right about the expense of energy here. It is just tiresome to hear constant criticism of long ago action based upon today’s sensibilities. George Washington was a bad guy in today’s terms, but he did not live in today’s times. FDR was a bad guy by today’s standards but he did not live today. I may just be a cranky old man but it is really easy to look back and throw stones. It kinda reads like you're saying what folks in power did back then should get a pass because they didn't know what we know now.. You're not saying that are you?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 11, 2019 14:33:01 GMT -5
No pass required.
It is done. The moral superiority claimed by this child is galling.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 11, 2019 14:38:05 GMT -5
Racial discrimination in mortgage lending in the 1930s shaped the demographic and wealth patterns of American communities today, a new study shows, with 3 out of 4 neighborhoods “redlined” on government maps 80 years ago continuing to struggle economically. The study by the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, released Wednesday, shows that the vast majority of neighborhoods marked “hazardous” in red ink on maps drawn by the federal Home Owners’ Loan Corp. from 1935 to 1939 are today much more likely than other areas to comprise lower-income, minority residents. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/28/redlining-was-banned-50-years-ago-its-still-hurting-minorities-today/?utm_term=.f81a491739d8N.B. Can't wait for the next time Robert Byrd's membership in the Klan is raised by this poster again!! For the record, my father a veteran of WWII and a then a career CIA officer was unable to purchase a house in Virginia when we moved from San Francisco to the DC area to be close to his place of work because of the lack of any fair housing laws and restrictive covenants. So for some posters, housing discrimination may be strictly hypothetical. For my family, it wasn't.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 11, 2019 16:14:36 GMT -5
No pass required. It is done. The moral superiority claimed by this child is galling. I think you're better off using your Hillary logic of "I just don't like her" with AOC from now on... It's a much better look than twisting yourself into knots and moving goalposts trying to justify why you have a problem with some(all) of the perfectly sound points she making...
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 11, 2019 16:37:06 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 11, 2019 21:07:17 GMT -5
Yep, no doubt, God threw His support behind a bigoted pathological liar. There were probably also those who claimed that God threw His support behind Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin and other fine fellows. Not that I'm comparing Trump to them. He may be a scumbag, but he's not those guys. It's just not hard to say that God is behind whomever the religious right may choose to support.
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Post by puthath on Mar 13, 2019 15:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by puthath on Mar 13, 2019 15:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 13, 2019 16:37:51 GMT -5
Why is the quote function on this board so difficult for you to master?
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Post by puthath on Mar 13, 2019 16:39:35 GMT -5
Why is the quote function on this board so difficult for you to master? Why are you such a dweeb? Why do you ignore the hypocrisy of a Democratic candidate like Warren? Again, Turmo is bad, but these Democrats are far worse. It was a bad dilemma for the voters in 2016 with Orange One vs. Crooked, and it will only get worse in 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 17:32:06 GMT -5
When you don't even know who the candidate is but are claiming Trump is the lesser of 2 evils... Lol Hey Trump is an Unindicted Co-Conspirator who's administration is fraught with corruption. He has numerous conflicts of interests and is running a self enrichment scheme out of the White House. He averages 10 lies a day, doesn't believe in the Constitution, has no desire to learn on the job, and uses racism as a political tool. His former campaign manager was just sentenced to 8 years in prison....... but he's not so bad...... Elizabeth Warren once put she was Native American on an application. That's the real scandal....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 19:36:04 GMT -5
Interesting logic considering you didn't deny you support an Unindicted Co-Conspirator who's administration is fraught with corruption. Who has numerous conflicts of interests and is running a self enrichment scheme out of the White House. Averages 10 lies a day, doesn't believe in the Constitution, has no desire to learn on the job, and uses racism as a political tool. former campaign manager was just sentenced to 8 years in prison.
How much of a kool aid sipper do you have to be to believe Trump got into UPenn by his own merit? Don Jr? Jared Kushner's pops didn't buy his way into Harvard?
Money has always been the real affirmative action.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 13, 2019 19:56:11 GMT -5
Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is escalating -- possibly because Manafort was did not "sing" or "create" against Orange Man, and your hero Herr Mueller did not find collusion by Manafort? And you do not deny that Warren lied about her heritage to gain a material advantage? "Falsus in uno..." Let me first say that I am not a fan of Elizabeth Warren. I'd much rather she returned to Harvard Law School. Nevertheless, this is comparing elephant poop to flea poop. And there can be no question whatsoever who the propagator of the elephant poop is.
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Post by puthath on Mar 13, 2019 20:02:04 GMT -5
Interesting logic considering you didn't deny you support an Unindicted Co-Conspirator who's administration is fraught with corruption. Who has numerous conflicts of interests and is running a self enrichment scheme out of the White House. Averages 10 lies a day, doesn't believe in the Constitution, has no desire to learn on the job, and uses racism as a political tool. former campaign manager was just sentenced to 8 years in prison. How much of a kool aid sipper do you have to be to believe Trump got into UPenn by his own merit? Don Jr? Jared Kushner's pops didn't buy his way into Harvard? Money has always been the real affirmative action. I have no idea whether Trump deserved admission to Penn, do you? I know he was smart enough to destroy the Republicans and beat Clinton who had a massive media and money advantage. Once again Trump’s character is bad in many respects but to my knowledge he never left a young woman to drown, and then use his family’s power and media enablers to skate and become the Lion of the Senate. Same with the affairs of Roosevelt, Eisenhower, JFK and Clinton. Similarly Trump, unlike Bush, has not started a war having no plan for what to do after we won, thus destabilizing the Middle East. And unlike Obama he did not view ISIS as “the JV”, and did not destabilize Libya into a terror state like Obama and Hillary. I just think you cannot even fathom that many are totally disappointed with the political class and felt and still feel that the alternatives to Trumo were and are also very bad. How do you feel, for example, about Joe Biden’s anti-integration comments re: busing, and his plagiarism? I suspect you accept his flaws because you agree with his policies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:12:25 GMT -5
Interesting logic considering you didn't deny you support an Unindicted Co-Conspirator who's administration is fraught with corruption. Who has numerous conflicts of interests and is running a self enrichment scheme out of the White House. Averages 10 lies a day, doesn't believe in the Constitution, has no desire to learn on the job, and uses racism as a political tool. former campaign manager was just sentenced to 8 years in prison. How much of a kool aid sipper do you have to be to believe Trump got into UPenn by his own merit? Don Jr? Jared Kushner's pops didn't buy his way into Harvard? Money has always been the real affirmative action. Time for the anti-TDS meds, I am afraid. Still no response as to whether Warren is a hypocrite, I see... Once again Trump is bad in many respects but the alternatives are also very bad. How do you feels for example about Joe Biden’s anti-integration comments re: busing, and his plagiarism? I suspect you accept his flaws because you agree with his policies. Still no response on wether you are a hypocrite either. Last time we engaged when you were pressed by a question you didn't like you chose not to answer. Have you figured out an answer? If not, please, move on...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:17:40 GMT -5
Interesting logic considering you didn't deny you support an Unindicted Co-Conspirator who's administration is fraught with corruption. Who has numerous conflicts of interests and is running a self enrichment scheme out of the White House. Averages 10 lies a day, doesn't believe in the Constitution, has no desire to learn on the job, and uses racism as a political tool. former campaign manager was just sentenced to 8 years in prison. How much of a kool aid sipper do you have to be to believe Trump got into UPenn by his own merit? Don Jr? Jared Kushner's pops didn't buy his way into Harvard? Money has always been the real affirmative action. I have no idea whether Trump deserved admission to Penn, do you? It's a shame you don't feel any type of embarrassment posting stuff like this....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:21:18 GMT -5
I am not a hypocrite. I think Trump is a highly flawed person but no worse on character than many, and better on policy than the last 2 Presidents. That's probably an opinion held by less than 20% of Trump supporters.. Ok, cool. I'll give you one more shot. My question for you is this- If you care about bigotry how can you vote for a man who ran on banning an entire religion from entering the United States? If a person said he wanted to ban Jews from entering the US he would be rightly labeled a bigot and receive universal scorn. Why was it ok to say that about Muslims and how did you manage to vote for/support him anyway if you feel strongly about bigotry and intolerance? If you want every one in this thread to either endorse or defend a woman none of us voted for, you should have to endorse or defend you voting for and continuing to support a man who at minimum sees racism and bigotry as an election tool. Can you answer, or is this just a bad faith trolling mission?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:29:03 GMT -5
Do you know Trump’s grades and SATs? I do not. If you do please share them. Like I said... Imagine knowing everything we know about Trump and thinking he got into UPENN on his own merit. I don't know, but I know..... And deep down, so do you... Alright my friend, have a good night...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:47:00 GMT -5
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know it’s a Presidential election not an iq test....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 21:11:44 GMT -5
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know it’s a Presidential election not an iq test.... Again, smart enough to win. IQ is one thing, street smarts is another. As Bill Parcells said, you are what your record is, no moral victories. They don’t base college acceptance on street smarts. There is no correlation between these two things. Money is the real Affirmative Action. Nothing has opened up more doors for me than having extra cash to spend.
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