hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 20, 2018 16:08:51 GMT -5
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Post by 72hoya on Mar 20, 2018 20:28:12 GMT -5
I am shocked that Duke and Coach K are involved with a player, or players, who are receiving substantial payments to attend schools and play in games from shoe manufacturers. :-)
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Mar 20, 2018 20:51:54 GMT -5
Good piece, but not that surprising as DMV AAU program Team Takeover has been written about a few times and the 6 figure money and beyond for coaches and funds to run their Nike sponsored program. For years the top programs have been sponsored by one of the big 3 shoe companies and their tournaments (Nike, Adidias, and Under Armour). The full-sponsored teams have shoes, uniforms, and some coaching paid for with a stipend, but some of the top programs get their travel covered too. This is most often framed as supporting travel basketball programs. From a distance it can be a good thing by getting good players good coaching and players getting good exposure without having to put money in. What the shoe companies get is exposure in youth and teen programs. Where this gets a odd is when parents get involved in coaching or running a program as it allows for payment of stipend to the parents of a kid playing. At the college level the top 5 or 6 basketball conferences all have programs with shoe companies. Some colleges have all their sports sponsored by the same company. Georgetown was one of the first to get into this, which is a good revenue generator for a program. The players get allotments of shoes and clothing. A good friend in college (a Pac 12 school) 20 some years ago roomed with a tennis player on the school team and they had clothing, shoe, and racquet deals and boxes were always showing up. NCAA rules don't let them sell or distribute to others. I sat through the NCAA guidelines meetings as a rower with the basketball team and us rowers found much of the discussion rather funny as it really didn't apply for us, but the basketball players were made sure they understood as it really applied to them. The shoe companies are pushing the edges on this and have been for a long time, but it is a line that gets fuzzy with good reason many times (there are a lot of parents coaching or working in programs their kids are in and doing it legitimately).
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 21, 2018 9:25:41 GMT -5
Good piece, but not that surprising as DMV AAU program Team Takeover has been written about a few times and the 6 figure money and beyond for coaches and funds to run their Nike sponsored program. For years the top programs have been sponsored by one of the big 3 shoe companies and their tournaments (Nike, Adidias, and Under Armour). The full-sponsored teams have shoes, uniforms, and some coaching paid for with a stipend, but some of the top programs get their travel covered too. This is most often framed as supporting travel basketball programs. From a distance it can be a good thing by getting good players good coaching and players getting good exposure without having to put money in. What the shoe companies get is exposure in youth and teen programs. Where this gets a odd is when parents get involved in coaching or running a program as it allows for payment of stipend to the parents of a kid playing. At the college level the top 5 or 6 basketball conferences all have programs with shoe companies. Some colleges have all their sports sponsored by the same company. Georgetown was one of the first to get into this, which is a good revenue generator for a program. The players get allotments of shoes and clothing. A good friend in college (a Pac 12 school) 20 some years ago roomed with a tennis player on the school team and they had clothing, shoe, and racquet deals and boxes were always showing up. NCAA rules don't let them sell or distribute to others. I sat through the NCAA guidelines meetings as a rower with the basketball team and us rowers found much of the discussion rather funny as it really didn't apply for us, but the basketball players were made sure they understood as it really applied to them. The shoe companies are pushing the edges on this and have been for a long time, but it is a line that gets fuzzy with good reason many times (there are a lot of parents coaching or working in programs their kids are in and doing it legitimately). Read the George Dohrmann book referenced in the article. He followed some players for eight years through the AAU system. You'll want to take a shower when you're through with it.
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