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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 12:19:58 GMT -5
Lol Mg, yes on the wing. On the ball not yet. He's sorta like DSR. Doesnt have his mind made up as to what he wants to do when he has the ball. He just wants to shoot first. I think his patience will come. Needs to work on his right hand. He doesnt have the vision on a consistent basis. He needs to play more unselfish hopefully this will come with time. This is correct. The kid will be at a crossroads next year and can either become a more complete guard which will go a long ways towards addressing a major need of the Hoyas or he can remain a shoot first player with a limited handle--at which point he is best used off the bench when scoring is needed. Blair is considerably behind Pickett at this point in time. Though playing much fewer minutes than Pickett he has shot almost as many 3s and is only shooting around 33% overall and from deep, compared to around 38% for both from Pickett. Still Blair has a lot of potential and is the best shooting option from the guards right now and like Mosley is a surprisingly decent rebounder for a guard. 2 weeks ago: Jamorko had 41 3s on the year and was hitting 33.9% (25-71 in BE). Jahvon had 41 3s on the year and was hitting 34.2% (25-75 in BE). Now Blair is considerably behind Pickett? That's a helluva big 2 weeks for a kid who's had 9 total rebounds in those 125 minutes. The previous 2 weeks Blair was 12/28 from 3 and Pickett was 6/21. We'll see what happens. I think (like I would assume most here do) Pickett IS a better player with a much higher ceiling, but I don't think these limited stats are the best way to make the claim. I actually think Pickett is currently as much of a "shoot first player with a limited handle" as Blair is right now -- he just happens to have hit a few more shots lately.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 25, 2018 12:20:34 GMT -5
Right -- when your best players are big men, you struggle at end of clock possessions. We had this in the Esherick era as well when Sweetney was dominant but it's just very hard to get the ball to them in a place where they can score in those situations. It's worse for us now because neither Govan nor MD are good at passing out of a double team.
Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you; it's especially true if you are less talented.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 25, 2018 13:15:49 GMT -5
Hard to know what we were looking to do on that last play. I'd like to think that Blair was in there as a spacing option (as with Pickett on the weak-side) and that someone else was supposed to have the ball. It would have made good sense to me to try to iso Jesse and Marcus on a side, hope for a double, and kick to one of them for an open three. That would have made sense to me. But tough to know for sure.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2018 13:26:24 GMT -5
Jamorko was open for his shot.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 25, 2018 13:29:15 GMT -5
Jamorko was open for his shot. You’re so harsh.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 25, 2018 13:30:51 GMT -5
2 consecutive opponents, Xavier and Providence, have ratcheted up the physicality in the second half and basically taken Derrickson and Govan out of their inside games.
I see an off-season in the weight room and of practicing how to power through contact for the Hoyas 2 best front line players. Derrickson is clearly farther along in this area, both both can improve greatly (and have to) if they expect to play at the next level.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 25, 2018 14:12:57 GMT -5
This is correct. The kid will be at a crossroads next year and can either become a more complete guard which will go a long ways towards addressing a major need of the Hoyas or he can remain a shoot first player with a limited handle--at which point he is best used off the bench when scoring is needed. Blair is considerably behind Pickett at this point in time. Though playing much fewer minutes than Pickett he has shot almost as many 3s and is only shooting around 33% overall and from deep, compared to around 38% for both from Pickett. Still Blair has a lot of potential and is the best shooting option from the guards right now and like Mosley is a surprisingly decent rebounder for a guard. 2 weeks ago: Jamorko had 41 3s on the year and was hitting 33.9% (25-71 in BE). Jahvon had 41 3s on the year and was hitting 34.2% (25-75 in BE). Now Blair is considerably behind Pickett? That's a helluva big 2 weeks for a kid who's had 9 total rebounds in those 125 minutes. The previous 2 weeks Blair was 12/28 from 3 and Pickett was 6/21. We'll see what happens. I think (like I would assume most here do) Pickett IS a better player with a much higher ceiling, but I don't think these limited stats are the best way to make the claim. I actually think Pickett is currently as much of a "shoot first player with a limited handle" as Blair is right now -- he just happens to have hit a few more shots lately. Sorry for the confusion but the reference to considerably behind refers to the overall play of Blair and Pickett. Pickett has improved significantly in all areas of his play though his defense remains a work in progress. He is making better decisions with the ball and forcing fewer shots. I like Blair’s potential but right now in my opinion he is behind Pickett as a contributor and not based just on a couple of games.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2018 15:16:51 GMT -5
Jamorko was open for his shot. You’re so harsh. Hey I was just noting that one of the goals of the play was successful, the shot for Jamorko was open😉. Now to be fair I think it was the first look for Jamorko that was a planned part of the play, which was not open. But as the play started to improvise he moved to an open perimeter spot. Then again, with further time to think about it, I suppose expecting a freshman who isn't a point guard, and who is stuck in a play that has broken down, to make that find was a bit much.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 25, 2018 15:28:09 GMT -5
You’re so harsh. Hey I was just noting that one of the goals of the play was successful, the shot for Jamorko was open😉. Now to be fair I think it was the first look for Jamorko that was a planned part of the play, which was not open. But as the play started to improvise he moved to an open perimeter spot. Then again, with further time to think about it, I suppose expecting a freshman who isn't a point guard, and who is stuck in a play that has broken down, to make that find was a bit much. Excellent response to my trolling. 💯
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 25, 2018 15:41:47 GMT -5
You’re so harsh. Hey I was just noting that one of the goals of the play was successful, the shot for Jamorko was open😉. Now to be fair I think it was the first look for Jamorko that was a planned part of the play, which was not open. But as the play started to improvise he moved to an open perimeter spot. Then again, with further time to think about it, I suppose expecting a freshman who isn't a point guard, and who is stuck in a play that has broken down, to make that find was a bit much. Thing is though Pickett wasn't really open, by the time the pass got to him Bullock would have easily been there.. Should he have made that pass? Sure but it wouldn't have been a guaranteed open look for Pickett.. It looked to me like they wanted to get a three 1st & foremost which was kind of a questionable strategy in my view..
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2018 17:09:03 GMT -5
Not sure how "easily" Bullick would have gotten there, since he had moved toward the lane to help. We also know Jamarko does not need much room to be open.
As for trying to get a three - don't forget that we had only 4 team fouls so it was going to take some precious seconds to ring up 3 more fouls.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 25, 2018 21:15:43 GMT -5
2 consecutive opponents, Xavier and Providence, have ratcheted up the physicality in the second half and basically taken Derrickson and Govan out of their inside games. I see an off-season in the weight room and of practicing how to power through contact for the Hoyas 2 best front line players. Derrickson is clearly farther along in this area, both both can improve greatly (and have to) if they expect to play at the next level. Hope you are correct about Govan understanding that he needs to get stronger and be willing to play through physical play by opponents. Patrick should make mandatory viewing some of the tapes of his play against Syracuse and St Johns. If Govan and Derrickson think what they are going through now really physical play, they probably would have thought Patrick should have filed criminal assault charges after each of his games.
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