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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 22, 2018 16:04:15 GMT -5
With the TCJA not allowing for deductions of donations that are required for ticket purchases, I wonder if the ticketing department at Georgetown has some creative way around this?
Is there a donation amount they could have which would keep the ticket brokers and SUcks fans at bay ($100) but then have a "suggested" donation based on ticket levels? Could people be shamed into these levels or barred from ticket renewals in prime locations if they fall in arrears? With our attendance off by 5K on average since our last season in the old big east, my guess is there is a lot of handwringing in the ticket office. Wins are priority number one but without the large state schools like UConn, SUcks, Lville, Pitt to fill our arena, there is no getting around the fact it is just too damn big. Could we eliminate the 400's altogether and push everyone down to the 100, 200 & 300's? Can we go Barclays and dim the lights to provide a better atmosphere?
The only thing I can think of that we don't have at Gtown is a good game day experience. Frankly it stinks. Even if we are winning big we are still hoping to fill up our place with at least 5000 opposing fans. Ticket sales are off in all major sports and frankly I don't see that tide changing. I do see us getting better but I hope there is some outside of the box thinking going on.
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BigmanU
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Post by BigmanU on Jan 22, 2018 16:15:55 GMT -5
With the TCJA not allowing for deductions of donations that are required for ticket purchases, I wonder if the ticketing department at Georgetown has some creative way around this? Is there a donation amount they could have which would keep the ticket brokers and SUcks fans at bay ($100) but then have a "suggested" donation based on ticket levels? Could people be shamed into these levels or barred from ticket renewals in prime locations if they fall in arrears? With our attendance off by 5K on average since our last season in the old big east, my guess is there is a lot of handwringing in the ticket office. Wins are priority number one but without the large state schools like UConn, SUcks, Lville, Pitt to fill our arena, there is no getting around the fact it is just too damn big. Could we eliminate the 400's altogether and push everyone down to the 100, 200 & 300's? Can we go Barclays and dim the lights to provide a better atmosphere? The only thing I can think of that we don't have at Gtown is a good game day experience. Frankly it stinks. Even if we are winning big we are still hoping to fill up our place with at least 5000 opposing fans. Ticket sales are off in all major sports and frankly I don't see that tide changing. I do see us getting better but I hope there is some outside of the box thinking going on. General question: Any idea the seating capacity for the 100 & 200 sections only? I believe Seton Hall curtains off the upper deck. Even in the heyday, the upper deck wasn't needed for every game. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 22, 2018 16:31:04 GMT -5
With the TCJA not allowing for deductions of donations that are required for ticket purchases, I wonder if the ticketing department at Georgetown has some creative way around this? Is there a donation amount they could have which would keep the ticket brokers and SUcks fans at bay ($100) but then have a "suggested" donation based on ticket levels? Could people be shamed into these levels or barred from ticket renewals in prime locations if they fall in arrears? With our attendance off by 5K on average since our last season in the old big east, my guess is there is a lot of handwringing in the ticket office. Wins are priority number one but without the large state schools like UConn, SUcks, Lville, Pitt to fill our arena, there is no getting around the fact it is just too damn big. Could we eliminate the 400's altogether and push everyone down to the 100, 200 & 300's? Can we go Barclays and dim the lights to provide a better atmosphere? The only thing I can think of that we don't have at Gtown is a good game day experience. Frankly it stinks. Even if we are winning big we are still hoping to fill up our place with at least 5000 opposing fans. Ticket sales are off in all major sports and frankly I don't see that tide changing. I do see us getting better but I hope there is some outside of the box thinking going on. General question: Any idea the seating capacity for the 100's & 200's only? I believe Seton Hall curtains off the upper deck. Even in the heyday, the upper deck wasn't needed for every game. I don't know but guessing it is around 5K (out of just north of 20K). I don't think you could shut 300 suites as those folks pay for access for all events. There were tons of shirts on seats on TV for the St. John's game and it just seems silly to have the whole thing open. |
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Post by vv83 on Jan 22, 2018 17:03:50 GMT -5
With the TCJA not allowing for deductions of donations that are required for ticket purchases, I wonder if the ticketing department at Georgetown has some creative way around this? Is there a donation amount they could have which would keep the ticket brokers and SUcks fans at bay ($100) but then have a "suggested" donation based on ticket levels? Could people be shamed into these levels or barred from ticket renewals in prime locations if they fall in arrears? With our attendance off by 5K on average since our last season in the old big east, my guess is there is a lot of handwringing in the ticket office. Wins are priority number one but without the large state schools like UConn, SUcks, Lville, Pitt to fill our arena, there is no getting around the fact it is just too damn big. Could we eliminate the 400's altogether and push everyone down to the 100, 200 & 300's? Can we go Barclays and dim the lights to provide a better atmosphere? The only thing I can think of that we don't have at Gtown is a good game day experience. Frankly it stinks. Even if we are winning big we are still hoping to fill up our place with at least 5000 opposing fans. Ticket sales are off in all major sports and frankly I don't see that tide changing. I do see us getting better but I hope there is some outside of the box thinking going on. General question: Any idea the seating capacity for the 100 & 200 sections only? I believe Seton Hall curtains off the upper deck. Even in the heyday, the upper deck wasn't needed for every game. We definitely curtained off the upper deck in 2005-06 for the pre-conference games against lower level teams, I remember this very distinctly. After we made the second weekend of the tournament in March 2006, the curtaining was gone for 2006-07 and beyond as attendance took a nice bounce upward. I don't remember if we were curtaining off the upper deck prior to 2005-06, but I did not go to many games prior during the late Esherick/first JTIII seasons. |
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Post by hoya95 on Jan 22, 2018 17:32:54 GMT -5
I'm not a tax lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that there is no creative way around this. Any donations for seats (or at least to get better seats) are no longer tax deductible.
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Post by miracles87 on Jan 22, 2018 18:00:21 GMT -5
Maybe send your stubs for the Creighton and Nova games to FEMA?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 22, 2018 19:12:11 GMT -5
I'm not a tax lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that there is no creative way around this. Any donations for seats (or at least to get better seats) are no longer tax deductible. Creative way: Seats are assigned based on criteria that includes annual giving. It's not a price per seat and there are no quid pro quos but rewards annual giving nonetheless. Whatever the means, once someone figures it out, everyone gets in line. |
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Post by BigmanU on Jan 23, 2018 8:46:53 GMT -5
General question: Any idea the seating capacity for the 100 & 200 sections only? I believe Seton Hall curtains off the upper deck. Even in the heyday, the upper deck wasn't needed for every game. We definitely curtained off the upper deck in 2005-06 for the pre-conference games against lower level teams, I remember this very distinctly. After we made the second weekend of the tournament in March 2006, the curtaining was gone for 2006-07 and beyond as attendance took a nice bounce upward. I don't remember if we were curtaining off the upper deck prior to 2005-06, but I did not go to many games prior during the late Esherick/first JTIII seasons. In JTIII's first year I can't remember if the upper deck of the MCI Center was curtaining off, but the lights were dimmed pretty low for the 2005 1st rd. NIT game against Boston Univ. The crowd was very sparse, but I did think the ambiance was pretty cool. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 23, 2018 9:00:16 GMT -5
I'm not a tax lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that there is no creative way around this. Any donations for seats (or at least to get better seats) are no longer tax deductible. Creative way: Seats are assigned based on criteria that includes annual giving. It's not a price per seat and there are no quid pro quos but rewards annual giving nonetheless. Whatever the means, once someone figures it out, everyone gets in line. 95, I think something like this would work. You could look at annual giving, # of years giving, "other" support of University such as involvement via alumni clubs, away game support, etc. My donation won't change but I love how MD is exploring the "donation" in the amount of your state taxes being 95% offset to income taxes. I like poking the bear! |
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